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  1. #251

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?


    Quote Originally Posted by pijavier
    Then dinha si rcruman sayop. ky good works will never get you to heaven. wala gyud maluwas sa good works.
    what's your biblical basis that good works can't bring you to heaven or to eternal life.
    please bible verse that saying "wala gyud maluwas sa good works".

    Quote Originally Posted by pijavier
    GOOD WORKS THOUGH, is a RESULT OF A PERSON"S LOVE FOR GOD. IF A PERSON HAS GOD, then the natural and obvious GOOD WORKS WILL manifest.
    see, your contradicting with yourself.
    asa sa bible nga "if a person has God good works will manifest obviously and naturally"?

    Quote Originally Posted by pijavier
    Pero good works as a basis for salvation, tabla ra ta ani sa uban religion nga if you make more good works than bad works, maluwas raka. halin kau ang notebook ani. ky kinahanglan tag listahan. debit SIN credit GOOD.
    12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
    Revelation 20:12

    6 Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things.
    7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
    8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
    9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
    10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.
    Galatians 6:6-10

    20 Though Noah, Daniel, and Job were in it, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, they shall deliver neither son nor daughter; they shall but deliver their own souls by their righteousness.
    Ezekiel 14:20

    17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
    2 Timothy 3:17


    bro show your biblical proof.

    Peace!



  2. #252

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    hahahaha, nice one.

    maghikog or dili. dili na angay misahan ky unsaon paman na ang patay. kadto buhi pa unta daghan pa pwede mabuhat para maluwas. dead na gani. wla na...

  3. #253

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    bro rcruman, you are taking me out of context. read allmy posts please, and YES. good works does not bring you to heaven.

    balikon nako, good works plus faith.

    good works is a result of having God inside you.

    ani man ang point ana, a man without God can still be good... d ba. so what's the point in heaven for this man who does not believe in God yet he is good.

    so you mean to say if i were to be a good person (which i try to by the way by the grace of God) yet deny there is a God. asa man ko padulong?

  4. #254

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman
    what's your biblical basis that good works can't bring you to heaven or to eternal life.
    please bible verse that saying "wala gyud maluwas sa good works".
    see, your contradicting with yourself.
    asa sa bible nga "if a person has God good works will manifest obviously and naturally"?

    12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
    Revelation 20:12

    6 Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things.
    7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
    8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
    9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
    10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.
    Galatians 6:6-10

    20 Though Noah, Daniel, and Job were in it, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, they shall deliver neither son nor daughter; they shall but deliver their own souls by their righteousness.
    Ezekiel 14:20

    17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
    2 Timothy 3:17


    bro show your biblical proof.

    Peace!

    Bro naa ko pa consulta nimo ug puede ...

    Regarding sa Baptist nga Doctrine nga "Once Save Always Save", faith rajud na ilaha wala labot ang works... unsa imoha kasulti ana .. kay ang Ginoo daw dili man hatag / bawi ..

  5. #255

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    I know you will use what the Apostle Paul said. so no worries man... there is an extremist Christian Televangelist who thinks Paul is of the Devil, his TV show is right after Dating Daan and Bagong Daan. He has twisted the same verses about good works and claims it is contradicting to what God says.

    Frankly, this argument will discredit the Bible, if we were to keep it up.

    Back to topic: Ngano dili man misahan ang maghikog?

  6. #256

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    Quote Originally Posted by pijavier
    bro rcruman, you are taking me out of context. read allmy posts please, and YES. good works does not bring you to heaven.

    balikon nako, good works plus faith.

    good works is a result of having God inside you.

    ani man ang point ana, a man without God can still be good... d ba. so what's the point in heaven for this man who does not believe in God yet he is good.

    so you mean to say if i were to be a good person (which i try to by the way by the grace of God) yet deny there is a God. asa man ko padulong?
    purgatoryo, nya wla man ka mutuo ug purgatory aw sa gawas lang ka ayaw lang sulod..

    wahehehe

  7. #257

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    Quote Originally Posted by pijavier
    bro rcruman, you are taking me out of context. read allmy posts please, and YES. good works does not bring you to heaven.

    balikon nako, good works plus faith.

    good works is a result of having God inside you.

    ani man ang point ana, a man without God can still be good... d ba. so what's the point in heaven for this man who does not believe in God yet he is good.

    so you mean to say if i were to be a good person (which i try to by the way by the grace of God) yet deny there is a God. asa man ko padulong?
    Mao na gi ingon sa MCCC bro nga Self Righteous person ... buotan pero dili spiritual nga tawo .. dili gihapon na Justified ...

  8. #258

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman
    then let us categorized first bro, what type of Good works?
    Good works that is wanted by God or Good works by our own eyes?
    Remember the legendary Robin Hood was considered as good man because he made a Good work based on giving what he steal.
    Then let us assess to whom it is good, to God or to our fellow men?
    Did you know that good works came from God that is laid upon our way to walk with it.
    We need God to know what is Good for our soul not for our flesh (luxury/lust).

    10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
    Ephesians 2:10.

    then would you man enough to show your basis from the bible about your statement that "No one can be saved by good works."?

    Peace!
    See what i mean. unya if quote ka Eph by grace, dili cya sugot kay pilmi lang kuno eph, mayo pa papasun nalang na eph, arun masakto na ni si rc ruman by Works Works Works.

    The Shedding of Blood, Jesus Christ was crucified for the forgiveness of our sin and for our salvation kay walay pulos.

    kay buhat lang ta good works mana, luwas na. so sayop gyud si LORD JESUS ngano nagpakamatay paman cya nga ingon rc pwede ra good works. such a mistake, big mistake huge mistake??

    o basin si rc maoy sayop? kinsa kaha nila, si Christ or si rc?

  9. #259

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    Quote Originally Posted by pijavier
    hahahaha, nice one.

    maghikog or dili. dili na angay misahan ky unsaon paman na ang patay. kadto buhi pa unta daghan pa pwede mabuhat para maluwas. dead na gani. wla na...
    Jesus implies that our sins can be forgiven in the next world.

  10. #260

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak
    Jesus implies that our sins can be forgiven in the next world.
    Hahaha, that's a good one! so that can be a really good excuse to sin in this world....?

    Hebrews 9:27 just as a man is destined to die once and after that to face judgement. Wala nay chance mag usab.

    unsa mana nga theory bro, duol raman sa reincarnation.

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