Eliseo F. Soriano of ADD - SUSPENDED! Makatwiran ba?

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unsa sa tanan.... basaha una ni nga mga verses sa bible.... then think for even a minute....... analyze it...... but before reading it.... open up your minds.... para sad tawn makasulod ang Words of God.....
here it is......

Mga buangbuang ! ang nagbuhat sa gawas wala ba usab magbuhat sa sulod?
Lucas 11 : 40

Apan ang Dios miingon kaniya: Buangbuang ka, karong gabii pagakuhaon kanimo ang imong kinabuhi; ug ang mga butang nga imong gitagana, kang kinsa na man sila?
Lucas 12 : 20

as clear as crystal..... right from our Lord's mouth..... if youll consider the bolded word above as pamalikas...... will you agree that Christ and even God the Father.... namalikas think.... think..... think......

if the people in that instance that were called by Christ as buangbuang..... will it be wrong if ill be saying the same word to those people? or to people doing the same thing done by those people.....

Ug miingon: Ah, ikaw nga napuno sa tanang limbong, ug sa tanang pagluib, anak ikaw sa yawa, ug kaaway sa tanang pagkamatarung, dili ka ba moundang sa pagbalit - ad sa mga matul - id nga dalan sa Ginoo?
Mga Buhat 13 : 10

how about that pamalikas japun..... namalikas si Pablo or Saulo who is one of Christ's apostles?...... asay mas sakit? ikaw tawgon "anak sa yawa"? or "tanga"?......... think again.... think... think.... think......

as ive said..... God's words are harsh for human standards...... so it would just be normal for you to act like that.... since lisod pa man para ninyo i accept ang usa ka concept which i believe "new" para ninyo.......

the Catholic church may not use those words..... TANGA, TARANTADO, or GAGO....... but does it mean anything? or does it mean priests are more Holy since they refrain from using those words....... think again......

ive mentioned the verses above..... kay sa akong tanaw.... bisan usaon pa nakog sulti ninyo nga basaha ang books of acts....... dili man jud mo mobasa siguro....... so ako na lay nangita ani nga mga verses.... para ninyo.......

ill restate the verse again.... read ang open up...... the true definition of the word "boangboang"......

Ang pagkahadlok kang Ginoo maoy sinugdan sa kahibalo; Apan ang mga buangbuang nagatamay sa kaalam ug pahamangno.
Mga Proverbio 1 : 7

[djvrex]

prayer is the best solution for everything. we should not judge bro. soriano. i am not a member of the church of god but i guess it would be fair enough to support prayer for both parties. God bless you!

[buloi123]

Ang sayop nato kasagaran filipino, unsay makasakit sa usa ka tawo, ngil-ad na, unsay maka insulto or maka annoy sa tawo, sayop na,

Ngano? Unsa-on man nimo pag atake sa sayop? Imo abi-abi-hon?

Dapat dili jud nimo balikason or bugal-bugalan ang para nimu sayop kai wa ka kabalo, nga ikaw diay ang sayop! Sa imo point of view sakto ka! Pero sa point of view sa uban tawo, daku kang sayup! Ok ra debate mo taman sa ginhawa pero ayaw lang gamit nga mga words nga makapasakit sa uban... Dili diay pwede nga you just show to them kung unsai kamatuuran para nimu without hurting anybody? Try to respect others kay tawo lang ta tanan nga masakitan, ug labaw sa tanan masayop... ug wa ka kabalo nga basin tuud nga kanang imong gituuhan nga imong idol nga si Eli nga para nimu sakto tanan ang gipangyaw-yaw, daku diay nga sayop.... Elyen?

[robearthFX]

Hehehe bai ..... di na mao ang punto na 3 years ka naglagot pod ni Eli , maski 100 years pa na .

im just sharing my experience.....

Sa imohang sulti na " walang matigas na tinapay sa mainit na
kape " , obvious kaau na si Eli ang kape ug ang uban pang sekto ang tinapay ....

sayop ka sa imo nga analysis.... ang saktong interpretation sa akong gsulti...... ang "tinapay" kay "ako"..... ug ang "kape" kay ang "Bible" and it was Eli who enlightened mo on that matter......

unya ug ako ibalik nimo ang pangutana na WHAT IF YOULL FIND OUT na SAYOP pod si ELI ug ikaw ?

ive already thinked of that..... sa una ra..... dont to tell me to do something that i've already done.......

hehehehe , here we go again making us read ELI's bible verses on whats not to do because it is a SIN

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that wasnt Eli's bible verses.... sa bisan pa asang bible nimo basahon....bisan sa Catholic pa nga bible...... mao japun ang pagkastate..... galibog lang ko ngano sa kadaghan sa pari, sa mga catholic defenders..... uh hasta sa kadaghan sa members..... wala man japun kabasa...... or basin nibasa lang... and didnt care.......

PRAY is a subjective word . Just because the LORDS PRAYER , ROSARY , ANGELUS etc existed doesnt mean that those prayers are the one being pin pointed by the verse you provided

wala na gispecify sa bible on to what particular prayers ang naggamit sa "vain repitition".... kay ngano wala pa man na niexist sa una kana nga mga prayers..... kanang rosary, angelus, etc........

and the verse..... nga.....

But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
Matthew 6 : 7

so the verse is some king of a warning..... ug bisan pa ani nga warning.... naa pa man japun mga gahig ulo......

WHat the verse you provided meant are prayers of request like " LORD MAAYO UNTA UG MAKADAOG KO SA LOTTO " said 100 times . See how LITERALLY is it about prayer according to you guys

praying and sayong "LORD MAAYO UNTA UG MAKADAOG KO SA LOTTO" said once is just okey..... but said 100 times is too much...... unsay tuo ninyo sa Diyos? BUNGOL?

As what you said GOD WILL SURELY DO , hehehe u assume to much . God loves us so much that HE wishes whats best for us . He will show the way , the truth and the life and not by calling the non believers as FOOLS .

refer again to the true definiton of the word FOOL......

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Proverbs 1 : 7

Bai , I noticed that you keep on saying " NAGPATAKA MAN MO UG YAWYAW OI.

kato akong gisulti brod.... is addressed to one of our kaistoryans here.... ug dili para nimo.... kabalo ka ngano ako gisultian siya sa ingon? kay gapataka man tinuod..... dili lang once.... or twice.... but he did it more than twice...... he insisted nga "tanan daw tawo was given the gift of understanding"........... which is of course not true.....

ayaw pataka ug sabat bay......

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those issues are just rumors..... which i believe..... a desperate move of Elis enemies...... kun wala mo kabalo.... kadaghan na na gikulata si Eli sa mga TSISMIS..... samotan pa jud atong feature sa ABSCBN nga correspondents ug assignment sa una nga sobra ra kaayo ka BIAS..... they did not even gave Eli a chance to speak.........

Alangan tawgon unya sila ni ELI ug GAGO , TANGA , TARANTADO worst pa kay futang ina .

Eli never uttered those words that you are saying to some interviews...... he was interviewd once by GMA 7 sa imbestigador..... where he was given the chance by GMA to defend himself..... which ABSCBN never gave him...... and he didnt mentioned those words.... because.... he is talking to Mike Enriquez.... and not to those corrupt preachers......

WOuld you rather READ it and learn from it LITERALLY or understand it by heart ? I prefer the latter part . We are goin in circles bai , sa gyera pa di gyud mo mo surrender bisan SAKTO mo or SAYOP . Karon tell me who is ang GAHI

paminawa ni brod.... tanawa asay ni take nato literally...... when you do the Holy Eucharist of yours..... the literal eating of "bread kuno".......

or this one?........

Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven. For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world. Then said they unto him, "Lord, evermore give us this bread". And Jesus said unto them," I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst".

John 6 : 32 - 35

so which is more literal? ang bilief ninyo sa pagkaon sa kanang lingin nga butang (kalawat daw)..... or kanang nakastate above.... that the true bread is Christ...... kun mokaon ka ani nga bread.... kay dili na ka gutumon.... or uhawon......
klaro? or galibug ka? since wala man na namention sa Catholic during my stay there......

[FK]

bai pwede imo kumpletohon para mahibaw-an jud nato kong kinsa ang gi-ingnan sa ginoo ato, kinsa iya gipasabot?

dili ba ang Iya gi-ingnan ani kay ang pharisse? nga nag tamay kang Kristo?

koyawan man ko bai nga kong managhan mo inyo ming hutdon, kay wala mi ga subay sa inyong gituohang sakto.



bai about sa hinongdan ngano wala gipili si Eli sa mga council ni Perez. pwede tagaan ko nimo sa rason?

[robearthFX]

Makita ba sa bibliya kung pwede ba ma kick out sa Katoliko ang mga makasasala ? If naa bai paki post na lang verse hehehe anyways , di mo TEOLERATE nor ma EXPEL for the simple fact that EXPELING someone is not authorized by the CATHOLIC community but by GOD himself .

you arent familiar of the verse nga..... "pagtapos ng pangatlong pagsaway.... ay matakwil sya"....... i am just not familiar with the exact verse...... pero ill find it for you...... para sad tawn maliwanagan ka.......

expellling is not done in the Catholic..... sa inyoha ra......
bisan mamatay-tao.... sugod batan-on pa hangtud pagkatigulang...... mamatay tawo japun.... dili japun i expel...... how considerate of you..... human inigka himatyon na gani ning tawhana ..... human mangumpisal ug mangayo ug psaylo...... pwede ra man kuno..... kujawa sa?
bisan mga drug pushers, sugarol, ug uban pa.... basta mangumpuisal........ pwede na....... tsk tsk tsk.......

dayon inyo dayon to immention katong nakauban ni Cristo sa krus nga usa ka kriminal..... ngano man kuno gipasaylo to sya?..... ang tubag ana mao ni.... this is because..... that criminal wasnt given a chance to hear Christ..... until sa cross......
dili pareho sa mga tawo ron..... naa nay bible in which all of it are Words of God..... so wala na tay excuse nga moingon dayon ta.... "wala man ko kadungog ni Christ gud"..... dili na na pwede.... the bible is there..... no other book is needed........

[robearthFX]

bai pwede imo kumpletohon para mahibaw-an jud nato kong kinsa ang gi-ingnan sa ginoo ato, kinsa iya gipasabot?

dili ba ang Iya gi-ingnan ani kay ang pharisse? nga nag tamay kang Kristo?

koyawan man ko bai nga kong managhan mo inyo ming hutdon, kay wala mi ga subay sa inyong gituohang sakto.

basaha lang gud ang imong kaugalingong bible..... sa nakastate na gani sa kani nga verse..... ang defintion sa "boangboang" mao ni......

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Proverbs 1 : 7

Ang pagkahadlok kang Ginoo maoy sinugdan sa kahibalo; Apan ang mga buangbuang nagatamay sa kaalam ug pahamangno.
Mga Proverbio 1 : 7

so.... basaha ug tarong.... kapoy ra ba balikbalik..... ang usa ka tawong buangbuang...... mao katong gatamay sa kaalam ug pahimangno sa Ginuo....... so kinsa kaha ang gatamay sa kasuguan? ang grupo ni Eli nga wala miluhod sa rebulto o katong miluhod?

so.... si bisan kinsang tawhana nga gatamay sa pulong in a very dilberate and obvious manner..... usa ka...... "BUANGBUANG"!!!!.....

[FK]

Luke 22:19-20

19And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me."

20In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.

bai ga too ka nga kong maka sala ka karon, wala na na siyay kapasaylo-an?
ga too ka bai nga ang pagpamakak usa ka sala?

[robearthFX]

Actually, the Catholic Church does not make "patol" anymore with these kind of childish and immature groups and issues... That's why you can't see them organizing stupid and time-wasting debates..

the dont do debates coz they cant defend their teachings.... teachings like what? for example lang..... the concept of "original sin kuno".... that we inherited sins from Adam and Eve kuno...... which is very wrong.... read this.....
Ang kalag nga makasala, kini mamatay: ang anak dili magapas - an sa kasal - anan sa amahan, ni ang amahan magapas - an sa kasal - anan sa anak; ang pagkamatarung sa matarung anha kaniya, ug ang pagkadautan sa dautan anha kaniya.
Ezequiel 18 : 20

Cult groups like Eli's Dating Daan are desperate in gaining numbers that's why they do everything they can from maligning other grous like the INC to interpreting the Bible in an irrational manner.

Eli's group is not a cult.....
cult (noun). A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader

from above defintion of the word cult... i likely consider the catholic group as cult......

The catholic church is different because in its 2000 years old history, it still remains a Catholic Church committed to its mission and vision.

i dont believe that Catholiscism be 2000 years old.... they even claim Peter as the first Pope..... grabe namang claim nyan..... even in the bible..... wala jud na ang term nga "Santo Papa"...... those are just innovations.....

The Catholic Church will always come under attack by groups similar to ELI's dating daan because we are the TRUE church founded by Christ. The devil is very jealous of this that is why he is very desperate to destroy it in a very SWEET manner..

watta claim..... without even proofs..... how come that Catholism is the True Church kuno when its teachings are mostly against the Bible's true essence?

If the prophecies will come true, SATAN will actually succeed in destroying the church... According to St. Malachy, the present pope will be the second to the last....

wat book is that?

Just take a look at Eli's lifestyle, he own a gasoline station, a water purifier and other businesses... IS THIS WHAT a humble preacher should be? JESUS said, when you go and preach, do not carry with you money... Carry only a staff and wear only a sandal....

look as well the Catholic's bigs lifestyles.... they own Universities, hospitals that arent free..... and dont even pay taxes..... asay mas grabe?..

making business as long as profits of it are mainly for the Church funds.... is not wrong.... coz whether you believe it or not..... any.... you wont believe man sad hinuon.... paminawa na lang ni..... that Eli's businesses are for the church.... sa ako sad nga tanaw... they are the only religious organization that pay their taxes..... unlike other groups including the Catholics......