FREE MASONRY - the Principles

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na.a koy nakibaw-an kanang logo sa one dollar connected na sa masons...

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naka basa sad ko ana bro, asa ana dapit nga logo bro? kanang naay owl sign?

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Bro, duda ko murag dili mani ikaw nag post ani? hehe.
na shock lang ko sa imong post karon nga grabe ka poor kaayo. then very immaterial.
kay sa before nimo nga mga post bro, bilib kaayo ko nimo, maayo kaayo ka manabi, then bright kaayo akong pag basa sa imong mga post. pero karon murag naa lang ko comments gamay bro ha?

It is still me . It boils down to the individuals perception , like what we always hear , we cant please everyone .

how could you say FREEMASONRY is ddeper than being an ORGANIZATION, wherein even our government SEC registration wala man gani? so you mean, occult gyud diay ni? kuyawan man sad ta ani.

I did not su8ggestively say nor in the position to say because it limits only to what I know , to the best of my knowledge and most of all my opinions towards the issue . As ive said , we dont have to compare apples from oranges because it wont make any sense at all . Deeper than being an organization , if we read it again was said because I was referring it as a BROTHERHOOD na wala sa LIONS , ROTARY and JAYCEES per se from a previous comparison . Yes both parties are organization but FREEMASONRY is way deeper than that if we dig it . If an entity is once registered sa Securities and Exchange Commision then havent renewed its regsitration , thus that constitute of becoming an OCCULT kay dili SEC member ?

then another thing, ayaw i divert ang topic sa SHRINERS of the Order of Freemasonry, kay natural every organization naa gyud na mga maayo kintahay nga ika tabang sa mata sa mga tao. aron ingnon ba nga maayo kintahay nga grupo. bisag sa uban gud organization, even mga fraternities.

Now you are speculating and putting the judgement on what youve heard and read and not what you know . Maybe some but then most of the time its not . Organization existed because of a cause , bisan ang gangsters ... its just the way it is . Something has to exist because there is a reason for it . Now back to the SHRINERS , I was putting it out to counter on that someone who said about puro " MONOPOLIZING " and " CONTROLLING the WORLD " ang gibuhat sa Craft while some organizations are busy doing community and humanitarian services .

another thing bro, diri gyud ko na kurat sa imong gi ingon:
Everyone has secrets , why is there a need to know their secrets ? Why are we so concerned about it ? What if the Masons would like to know the secrets of your identities , yoiur *** life , your love life , you problems in life , dark past ... what does that constitute to ? Its something nobody needs to know right ?

Exactly ! Why do we have to know their secrets ? Whats in it that its gonna be our business ? And reciprocate it also with our own personal secrets , dili ba its not someones else business to know also ? Simplified na lang na siya aron dali sabton . Now thats the proper way when we conduct COMPARISONS . APPLES to APPLES and ORANGES to ORANGES .

Bro, binata ra kaayo ni, kung ikaw man ganing nag post ani, i cant believe it. hehe.
first of all bro, thats not the issue of asking personal identities and you cannot compare that kay dili na mao ang point, so you mean sayup diay kung mo ask ta sa usa ka organization ug mga principles nila ug ilang belief?

You haver to ask the MASON itself ana imohang pangutana . The problem is , if not all here , most has already a premeditated answer and dili gani uyon sa unsay nahibaw-an ninyo , ingnon dayon ug KULTO . Example .. you approach a Craftsman , asked about the issues of WORLD DOMINATION , ANTI CHRIST , DEVIL WORSHIPPER etc lols , obviously and in the right mind , tubagon gyud ka ug NO and NEVER but then kay ang nabasahan ug nadunggan nato from somewhere else is different , dili ta mo agree . Funny thing is , our sources are not even affiliated nor has any ideas of FREEMASONRY , based lang tanan sa SPECULATIONS . Same bitaw na nahitabo kang ARCHER SENSATION , gipang tubag mo about DeMOLAY , dili mo tuo or supak ( dili ikaw specifically ) but then ngano ingon ana man na siya mismo is a member of the order of DeMOLAY ?

bro dili plate numbers ang akong pasabot, kanang background ba sa platenumber nga naa si Jose Rizal nag barog nag talikod sa Obelisk. bro mangutana ko sa imo, kung ang new car plate karon ang background, logo sa usa sa mga riligion sa ato karon, dili kaha ka mangutana?

Ngano karon pa man ta mangutana ana while the MEMORIAL of JOSE P. RIZAL sa LUNETA PARK was already erected for the past few decades ? I was referring to the LICENSE PLATE FRAMES by the way .

PIJAVIER ...

If the Freemason isn't registered then why think of them like all the Civic Groups? colorum d ay nuon

If you are referring to SEC , you dont have to be a CIVIC GROUP to be registered , even NON PROFIT ORGS can register . And again who said that Acient Order of the Free and Accepted Masons is an organization meant to be a CIVIC GROUP ?

With the secrets... that still bugs me. ***, LOVE LIFE, PROBLEMS are NOT a SECRET. they are personal things limited to the individual only. now Dark Past. that is a secret.

Exactamento !! Mismo !! And just like the INTERNAL STRUCTURE of the Craft , these are personal things limited only to the GROUP . Mao bitaw secret .Walay angay makahibalo . Trust me , do you guys really think the SECRETS are revealed ? Puro na speculations ang nahibaw-an ninyo and just like what I knew , nahadlok ta because igo ra na sila gi daot sa VATICAN and to those ANTI MASONS .

It still does not answer why the freemasons have secrets? what are they hiding from the public

And you can also ask bai the same questions to the Knights of Columbus , the VAtican , Skeptron Society etc . It is not HIDING SOMETHING FROM THE PUBLIC , it is more of KNOWLEDGE limited and reserved only to the members and the members only .

Merry Christmas pod ninyo tanan !!

[Archer sensAtion]

ang word na SECRET bah...dako jud kaayo na cya na issue?...

kinsa to ingon dri nga binata ra kaau ang gi post ni Springfield?...yah sakto cya we have our own secrets... dili nana cya secret kung mkahibaw mo...

if dili member sa SEC ang organization meaning kulto2x? bastosa gud ninyo bro... mao ni ako gi ingon nga mag ask mo ug questions which lead to ugly answers...

unsa may naa ana, if secret ayaw nlang hilabti bro... kung wa mo lingaw, pangita mo lain kalingawan kay ang masons and demolay is not a "kalingawan" topic...

if curious mo, gi tubag man mo ug sakto...ang nka apan lang kay mag patong2x na inyo questions unya pirti na ka bati... unya murag mas KAMO PA ANG NAAY HANAW...so useless kung mag cgi pa ko tubag sa inyo pangutana...

mosimos adto nlang sa mga thread ni PGMA pakig lalis...

[madmike]

kuyaw ani..

[Archer sensAtion]

ang word na SECRET bah...dako jud kaayo na cya na issue?...

kinsa to ingon dri nga binata ra kaau ang gi post ni Springfield?...yah sakto cya we have our own secrets... dili nana cya secret kung mkahibaw mo...

if dili member sa SEC ang organization meaning kulto2x? bastosa gud ninyo bro... mao ni ako gi ingon nga mag ask mo ug questions which lead to ugly answers...

unsa may naa ana, if secret ayaw nlang hilabti bro... kung wa mo lingaw, pangita mo lain kalingawan kay ang masons and demolay is not a "kalingawan" topic...

if curious mo, gi tubag man mo ug sakto...ang nka apan lang kay mag patong2x na inyo questions unya pirti na ka bati... unya murag mas KAMO PA ANG NAAY HANAW...so useless kung mag cgi pa ko tubag sa inyo pangutana...

mosimos adto nlang sa mga thread ni PGMA pakig lalis...

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ako pasabot nga wala kalahi-an ang Freemasons and Jaycees kay pareha ra na sila mga tawo, naay life, naay religion...

kung mo ingon mo nga transparent na nga mga organizations, ayaw mo pag feeling KNOW IT ALL mga bro...

lahi na ang secrets sa Jaycees and other organizations... underground shipments, backer sa mga dagkong tae, pure business na ila pero lahi na business...

and if ur asking y kahibaw ko, bcuz ako boss presidnt sa Jaycees b4...so mao na cya...

[pijavier]

Hahahahaha Archer sensAtion Bro, ayaw sad pamuking og mga amo. apil sad raba akong amo ana. bwahahahahahaa

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@SPRINGFIELD_XD_40
kani, mo tuo na gyud ko bro, ikaw na gyud ni nag post, kay ni gawas naman imong pag ka bright, hehe.
very well said bro, i understand.
but whats the reason man sad bro nga wala man sila ni pa member sa SEC? (just asking, no other intension)
by the way bro, sory sad sa imo bro ha kung sounds critics ra ko kaayo sa akong post ganina. hehe.

@Archer sensAtion
bro, i understand, sory kaayo for the misinterpretation nga akong na post.
OT rasad to nako.
kani si pijavier sad ato ni pa balhinon sa PGMA nga thread, hahahaha joke ra bro ha.

[pijavier]

kani si pijavier sad ato ni pa balhinon sa PGMA nga thread, hahahaha joke ra bro ha.

Bro, pag klaro dinha, wala raba tika hilabti ha, basin ni apil naka ato imong gi PM nako. dili man sad ko mamadlong, hala mag gubat ta sa lain nga thread kung mao na.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

@SPRINGFIELD_XD_40
kani, mo tuo na gyud ko bro, ikaw na gyud ni nag post, kay ni gawas naman imong pag ka bright, hehe.
very well said bro, i understand.
but whats the reason man sad bro nga wala man sila ni pa member sa SEC? (just asking, no other intension)
by the way bro, sory sad sa imo bro ha kung sounds critics ra ko kaayo sa akong post ganina. hehe.

Ayaw lang ko tawga ug bright . Kitang tanan diri bright sa iSTORYA , mao na ang naka nindot kung ang duha ka bright magpang abot ... interesting kaayo ang storya . Tuod naay bogo diri sa forums , maihap ra ... murag usa ra man gani cguro lols .

I love the way you approach . Yes indeed you are a critic but you are a critic on a side note targeting the posting and not the poster .

I would not honestly know why DILI or WALA sila magpa register sa SEC . Between sa WALA or DILI kay dako na kaayo na siya na issue na pod . BW , ask lang ko ... why is it na ang SEC man ang basehan nato ?