amd 64 3000+ (939) or P4 3.0ghz? which is better?

[darkwing]

the kicker from Tom's Hardware, regarding Power Consumption...

However, the Intel Pentium 4 or Pentium D systems also consume more energy in idle mode - more than the Athlon 64 or Athlon 64 X2 under maximum load.

the Pentium D system manages to burn over 200 watts as soon as it's turned on, even when it isn't doing anything. It even exceeds 310 W when working and 350+ W with the graphics card employed! AMD proves that this is not necessary at all: a range of 125 to 190 Watts is much more acceptable (235 counting the graphics card). And that is without Cool & Quiet even enabled.

[gregggy_ph]

ask advice from our oc gurus..ryan or DD...f u wana unleash that beast....

here are some info on users of amd 64 3000+s and the respective mobos, mems, voltage settings and mem timings...plus their super pi scores...

34s – A64 3000+ s939 winchie 2.54Ghz (318x, Epox 9NDA3J, 2x256MB Twinmos BH6 DDR333, Stock AMD hsf

35s - A64 3000+ 2.43Ghz (9x270), K8N Neo2 Pl, 2x256MB Twinmos 222Mhz, Stock HSF

37s - A64 3000+ 2.520Ghz (280x9), Abit kv8pro, 512MB kingmax superram DDR433, zalman cnps7000-cu

38s - A64 3000+@2.43ghz(270x9), DFI Ultra-D, Corsair XMS3200C2(DDR486 2.0-2-2-5-1T)

38s - a64 3000+ @ 2294.99 (9x255), msi neo2 platinum, 2x512mb ddr333 twinmos tmd chips (2.0-3-3-6), stock hsf

38s – A643000+ 2.16Ghz (240x9), K8N Neo2 Pl, 2x256MB Geil Value DDR400, Venus 12

38s - A64 3000+ @2400.00 (240x10), MSI K8N Neo FSR, 1x512 Twinmos DDR400 on 166 divider {2.5-3-3-8}, Stock HSF

39s - A64 3000+ 2.46Ghz (8x30, DFI LP UT NF3 250GB, 2x512 Twinmos DDR400 on divider, Stock HSF

40s – A64 3000+ 2.205Ghz (9x245), Shuttle SN95G5, 2x256MB Twinmos DDR400 200.5mhz (166 - 6-3-3-2 timming)

42s – A64 3000+ 2.025Ghz (9x240), Shuttle SN95G5, 2x256MB Twinmos DDR466 (166 - 7-3-3-2 timing

some are at default voltage...and using stock hsf...and yes...no problems wid cooling watsoever...

[EarlZ]

@EarlZ - 64bit na OS nimo? by the time na mag gamit nasad ta mga 64bit OS and applications, ma abot nasad ang mga intel 64bit na chips.

theres NO intel 64bit edition for desktop market that beats the current power of A64. ang 64bit sa intel naa ra sa server market.. and its a different processor, our regular windows X64 wont run on it. but they did release a Intel 64 para desktop pero reviews showed it was below avg performance.

no dili pa 64 akong OS, pero i already have the final version ( with SP1 ) sa windows x64 still waiting for other softwares nga naay 64bit support which should be out in less than 3 months time.

[EarlZ]

Under any application ( specially under 64bit environtment ) the A64 will beat the Intel 3.0 or even a 3.4 for that matter, and lets not forget.. 64bit na, intel is stuck with 32bit

Pentium 4 600+ w/ 64bit extension was release around last month april, pero it wasnt that impressive gyud, ( benchmark by win32 Win XP pro)

Pentium D (pentium dual core w/ x86-64bit) just recently release first 100,000 chips (may26 '05) $200-$500 starting from 2.8ghz-3.8ghz ,so the war is just about to begin

you mean McKinley (Core Code Name )

which is a stepped down Itanium

the cost of that 64bit ready CPU is about 1,300 to 4,200

[juan_carlos]

you guys think i should overclock my athlon 64 3000? its running at 1.8 ghz as of now man, maayo ba gyud if mag OC? unsa may advantages and disadvantages? is it easy to do? i think gidesign man sad cguro akong board para i overclock kay naa man cya special button na mureset sa CMOS settings in case masayop. enlighten me please...

[DD]

Under any application ( specially under 64bit environtment ) the A64 will beat the Intel 3.0 or even a 3.4 for that matter, and lets not forget.. 64bit na, intel is stuck with 32bit

Pentium 4 600+ w/ 64bit extension was release around last month april, pero it wasnt that impressive gyud, ( benchmark by win32 Win XP pro)

Pentium D (pentium dual core w/ x86-64bit) just recently release first 100,000 chips (may26 '05) $200-$500 starting from 2.8ghz-3.8ghz ,so the war is just about to begin

you mean McKinley (Core Code Name )

which is a stepped down Itanium


the cost of that 64bit ready CPU is about 1,300 to 4,200

koto is reffering about the intel 6XX series which supports 64bit and the price does range from 200-500 bucks

[dom_08]

@juan_carlos

your 1.8 GHz athlon 64 runs as fast/a bit faster than 3.0GHz P4...

anyway...
AMD Athlon 64 vs. Intel P4 Prescott

Temp: AMD wins by a mile!!!

Future compatibility: AMD wins... because it is capable of running 64bit application... BUT!! when will we be having a 64bit os? 2006?2007? by that time, your AMD Athlon 64, would be really slow, for that time's standards...

speed: tie... sometimes, Intel are faster, sometimes AMD are faster

...
for me... Intel or AMD... it is fine with me... they are both fast...

[EarlZ]

the performance is the Intel 6XX series really sucks

[EarlZ]

@juan_carlos


Future compatibility: AMD wins... because it is capable of running 64bit application... BUT!! when will we be having a 64bit os? 2006?2007? by that time, your AMD Athlon 64, would be really slow, for that time's standards...

dugay na ni gawas ang Windows x64 Edition

[EarlZ]

you guys think i should overclock my athlon 64 3000? its running at 1.8 ghz as of now man, maayo ba gyud if mag OC? unsa may advantages and disadvantages? is it easy to do? i think gidesign man sad cguro akong board para i overclock kay naa man cya special button na mureset sa CMOS settings in case masayop. enlighten me please...

it depends on how much your chip can handle, i have friends who dont know about overlocking that much and they ask me to do it, so far out of 5 3200's that ive overlocked 4 of them reached a stable speed of 2.2Gz the other one was left under 2.0, gamay ra among gi overclock kay still using stock cooler