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  1. #531

    Default Re: Questions about the Christ Jesus.


    Doctine 101. Triune GOD of the Bible is One GOD.

    Trinity --- "There is only One GOD, but in the unity of the Godhead there are 3 eternal and co-equal Persons, the same in substance but distinct in subsistence" --- C.C. Ryrie

    Have a nice day to all.

  2. #532

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyalan
    You mean "things" exists without creator? The answer is YES!
    i dont think so! bsag unsaon nako huna huna, all things be it living or not is created by a supernatural being. And i believe it's God in the person of Jesus Christ.

    Lets ask ourselves: in all the complexities in life that even science can not explain, which they call gray areas, do we still think that this enormous and incompehensible design just happened by mere accident??

    GUYS i wish a could let you see the scientific documentary video that i saw and believed that speaks on this things.

    If you like to see it, just tell me. Im willing to share it to everyone.

    JESUS Christ is the one true GOD!

  3. #533

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    Using concepts borrowed from non-Christian (per se) philosophies, God may be considered to be without form or with form. God may also be considered impersonal or personal. All these depends upon the realization of the person. This flexibility may have been suggested because, not everyone will realize or understand God in exactly the same way (like we have our own personal understanding of everything else).

    Using this analogy, the Father is without form, and the Son is with form. This may be stretching it a bit since, "God with form" is more like the "vision" you get when you have communed with the divine (i.e religious experience), rather than an actual person.

    Another analogy is the concept of avataras (added the 'a', as some traditions use it, to distinguish it from the Internet usage of the term). By my understanding of the definition, avataras are persons who have realized the divine (or God) within themselves. The divine in each one of us is also termed the "divine spark" (from analogy that if God is like a sun, the spark is like a ray from it). By this analogy, Jesus is considered an avatara by some beliefs. However, Jesus is not the only one considered to be so but, many other personalities are thought so as well.

    Personally, what makes me Christian is that instead of Jesus having found God within Him, it was God who "realized" us and became a man in Jesus. If God can manage so many humans in creation, wouldn't it be effortless for Him to have one for Himself? Although, by the definition of the avataras, Jesus would virtually be a perfect fit.

  4. #534

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    Quote Originally Posted by bongix
    i dont think so! bsag unsaon nako huna huna, all things be it living or not is created by a supernatural being. And i believe it's God in the person of Jesus Christ.

    Lets ask ourselves: in all the complexities in life that even science can not explain, which they call gray areas, do we still think that this enormous and incompehensible design just happened by mere accident??

    GUYS i wish a could let you see the scientific documentary video that i saw and believed that speaks on this things.

    If you like to see it, just tell me. Im willing to share it to everyone.

    JESUS Christ is the one true GOD!
    Op kors maka-ingon ka ana because it's a preconceived answer.

    jesus is the one true god? so, who's god the father? isn't he the one who think he is one true god also?

  5. #535

    Default Re: Questions about the Christ Jesus.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyalan
    Op kors maka-ingon ka ana because it's a preconceived answer.

    jesus is the one true god? so, who's god the father? isn't he the one who think he is one true god also?
    exactly! JESUS is GOD the father himself. They are one as well as the Holy spirit. A layman's example is an egg that consists the white, the yoke, and the shell. They're different but they are one and they are called an egg.

    As I said, these are one of the things that cant be conceived in our intellect. Everything seems vague. Unless you have the faith, we understand nothing. All we have to do is receive the LORD as our personal savior...that simple.

  6. #536

    Default Re: Questions about the Christ Jesus.

    Quote Originally Posted by bongix
    i dont think so! bsag unsaon nako huna huna, all things be it living or not is created by a supernatural being. And i believe it's God in the person of Jesus Christ.

    Lets ask ourselves: in all the complexities in life that even science can not explain, which they call gray areas, do we still think that this enormous and incompehensible design just happened by mere accident??

    GUYS i wish a could let you see the scientific documentary video that i saw and believed that speaks on this things.

    If you like to see it, just tell me. Im willing to share it to everyone.

    JESUS Christ is the one true GOD!
    ah, the typical God of the Gaps.
    I find the "God of the Gaps" mentality particularly revealing about the mindset of a believer. They demand the nonbelievers to provide answers for everything. Of course, that is an impossible request.

    apparently some people think that a creator is the only viable and superior alternative to a pending factual answer.---Again argument from incredulity. I can't explain it so GOD DID IT.

  7. #537

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    It takes leap of faith to fathom all these things. Unless you have it, everything happened by chance!

  8. #538

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    munzter666 bai, you have a point regarding the soundness of certain statements. Causality has to be inviolate (that's why science can be relied on) but, his point maybe is the existence of an ultimate cause (an uncaused cause). For now, we can let the nature of things be because existence is.

    I want to clarify a certain idea. First off, is there absolute proof that God cannot exist?

  9. #539

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    Quote Originally Posted by bongix
    exactly! JESUS is GOD the father himself. They are one as well as the Holy spirit. A layman's example is an egg that consists the white, the yoke, and the shell. They're different but they are one and they are called an egg.

    As I said, these are one of the things that cant be conceived in our intellect. Everything seems vague. Unless you have the faith, we understand nothing. All we have to do is receive the LORD as our personal savior...that simple.
    Jesus Speaks:
    1 "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do."
    2 "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
    3 "Father, into your hands I commend my spirit":

  10. #540

    Default Re: Questions about the Christ Jesus.

    Quote Originally Posted by bongix
    exactly! JESUS is GOD the father himself. They are one as well as the Holy spirit. A layman's example is an egg that consists the white, the yoke, and the shell. They're different but they are one and they are called an egg.

    As I said, these are one of the things that cant be conceived in our intellect. Everything seems vague. Unless you have the faith, we understand nothing. All we have to do is receive the LORD as our personal savior...that simple.
    I don't share your view about the "oneness of GOD", Here's Doctrine 101 you might be interested:

    Doctine 101. Triune GOD of the Bible is One GOD.

    Trinity --- "There is only One GOD, but in the unity of the Godhead there are 3 eternal and co-equal Persons, the same in substance but distinct in subsistence" --- C.C. Ryrie

    Have a nice day to all.

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