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  1. #161

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?


    @dartzed: ayaw tawn putla ang kuan ni amingb.. maluoy ka, pwerte tawng atiman ana niya, nya karon putlon lang.. hehe..

  2. #162

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    Quote Originally Posted by lomhanz
    @dartzed: ayaw tawn putla ang kuan ni amingb.. maluoy ka, pwerte tawng atiman ana niya, nya karon putlon lang.. hehe..
    and buhok sad ako pasabot oi wala pa gani na natiwas, sori gud..
    kamu jud hap...

    hehehe

  3. #163

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed
    and buhok sad ako pasabot oi wala pa gani na natiwas, sori gud..
    kamu jud hap...

    hehehe
    Wa pata naghuman ha ... nag sige jud biya ko pangita diri sa Internet

  4. #164

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    Quote Originally Posted by amingb
    Wa pata naghuman ha ... nag sige jud biya ko pangita diri sa Internet
    hahahaha malingaw man sad ta nimo oi..

    cge kaw gud... basta ako katambag ayaw lang palabi..

    hehehe

  5. #165

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    pwede mu share gamay sa ako nahibaw an.....

    suicide is killing one self simply, gikan sa akong pag sabot.
    Kung tan awon nato ang ten commandments naa didto "Thou shall not kill".
    So sa Catholic faith it's a mortal sin to kill even oneself.

    Mao na ang suicide dili misahan kay ang tao namatay man with a mortal sin.
    Pero depende nana karon. Some misahan ang uban dili.
    Kay wata kahibalo sa iyang pag hikug, sa iyang katapusang ginhawa,
    nakapangayo pa gihapon sya ug pasaylo sa Ginoo.

    Nya ang atong Ginoo makaloloy-on sa tanan nga inig pangayo nato ug pasaylo naa gyud ta chance bisan gamay tongtong lang sa porgatoryo.

    So mauna, ang nag hikog, dili misahan. Pero karon naa naman mu misa. All depends sa priest.

    Mao ni ako pag to-o. Hope this helps!

  6. #166

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    Quote Originally Posted by blutac
    pwede mu share gamay sa ako nahibaw an.....

    suicide is killing one self simply, gikan sa akong pag sabot.
    Kung tan awon nato ang ten commandments naa didto "Thou shall not kill".
    So sa Catholic faith it's a mortal sin to kill even oneself.

    Mao na ang suicide dili misahan kay ang tao namatay man with a mortal sin.
    Pero depende nana karon. Some misahan ang uban dili.
    Kay wata kahibalo sa iyang pag hikug, sa iyang katapusang ginhawa,
    nakapangayo pa gihapon sya ug pasaylo sa Ginoo.

    Nya ang atong Ginoo makaloloy-on sa tanan nga inig pangayo nato ug pasaylo naa gyud ta chance bisan gamay tongtong lang sa porgatoryo.

    So mauna, ang nag hikog, dili misahan. Pero karon naa naman mu misa. All depends sa priest.

    Mao ni ako pag to-o. Hope this helps!
    that really helps bro.. sa kadtong nag kinahanglan ug help

  7. #167

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    @blutac: yeah, sakto na si necrotic freak.. it helps..

  8. #168

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    bitaw..blessingan na lang sa Pari...instead of offering a mass...

    yeah bitaw...Suicide is a mortal sin....and the Lord knows...Siya na ang bahala ani nila...

  9. #169

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    Quote Originally Posted by seven_segment
    bitaw..blessingan na lang sa Pari...instead of offering a mass...

    yeah bitaw...Suicide is a mortal sin....and the Lord knows...Siya na ang bahala ani nila...
    Naay gipost dire nga pwede ra daw. See post below from brad brownprose:

    Quote Originally Posted by brownprose
    Some answers on the question taken from: http://www.zenit.org/article-14559?l=english


    Funeral Masses for a Suicide


    ROME, NOV. 15, 2005 (Zenit.org).- Answered by Father Edward McNamara, professor of liturgy at the Regina Apostolorum Pontifical University.

    Q: What is the current stand of the Church regarding the possibility of funeral Masses "in corpore presente" of persons who are said to have committed suicide? Is it true that there already are mitigating circumstances, like the possibility of irrationality at the moment of taking one's life (even if there was no note), whereby it would be possible to suppose that the person was not in his right mind, and that therefore it is licit to let the funeral entourage to enter a church and a funeral Mass be said? -- E.C.M., Manila, Philippines

    A: In earlier times a person who committed suicide would often be denied funeral rites and even burial in a Church cemetery. However, some consideration has always been taken into account of the person's mental state at the time.

    In one famous case, when Rudolph, the heir to the throne of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire, committed suicide in 1889, the medical bulletin declared evidence of "mental aberrations" so that Pope Leo XIII would grant a religious funeral and burial in the imperial crypt. Other similar concessions were probably quietly made in less sonorous cases.

    Canon law no longer specifically mentions suicide as an impediment to funeral rites or religious sepulture.

    Canon 1184 mentions only three cases: a notorious apostate, heretic or schismatic; those who requested cremation for motives contrary to the Christian faith; and manifest sinners to whom a Church funeral cannot be granted without causing public scandal to the faithful. These restrictions apply only if there has been no sign of repentance before death.

    The local bishop weighs any doubtful cases and in practice a prudent priest should always consult with the bishop before denying a funeral Mass.

    A particular case of suicide might enter into the third case -- that of a manifest and unrepentant sinner -- especially if the suicide follows another grave crime such as murder.

    In most cases, however, the progress made in the study of the underlying causes of self-destruction shows that the vast majority are consequences of an accumulation of psychological factors that impede making a free and deliberative act of the will.

    Thus the general tendency is to see this extreme gesture as almost always resulting from the effects of an imbalanced mental state and, as a consequence, it is no longer forbidden to hold a funeral rite for a person who has committed this gesture although each case must still be studied on its merits.

    Finally, it makes little difference, from the viewpoint of liturgical law, whether the body is present or not. If someone is denied a Church funeral, this applies to all public ceremonies although it does not impede the celebration of private Masses for the soul of the deceased.

    The same principle applies to funeral Masses of those whose body is unavailable for burial due to loss or destruction. Certainly the rites are different when the body is present or absent, but the Church's public intercession for the deceased is equally manifest in both cases.

  10. #170

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    dapat ang pari mag base sa bible, dili kay ila ila lang nga mga idea. kuman kay taas ug rank sa government then parehas nga case suicide, tagaan na dayun ug consideration. in the eyes of Gods law, we are treated equally.

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