question para sa mga veteran programmers

[dlanyer77]

if you see that the system still cater your companies needs then stick with it. there are lots of big companies including banks and until now they are still using the old school but manage to compete. in case you are planning to migrate i think the best thing to do is refer it first to the top management because it involves a lot of money. one example is your database alone. if you are going to migrate to Oracle then you must risk the huge amount your company will be spending. and another example is the staffing. you must have additional test team to make sure that you have a quality system considering that your current systems developer are using the old school then there is a greater risk that they are still on the stage of trial and error with the newer PL tool. as you can see there are lots of factors to consider that also considerably affect the ROI.

[maddox]

actually .Net is free.. they have express editions for create desktop applications. for your presentaion or UI layer you have VB, C#, C++ and J# Express Editions... and for your data layer, you can use SQL Server 2005 Express Edtion also.. and in those express editions you can develop enterprise level applications...free forever.. on that note when the express editions started, it wasn't meant to be free forever..if i'm not mistaken it was only for free for about a year..that was their decision early this year, but on later this year, MS changed its mind and kept it free forever..i've read that on a member of the VB Development Team Blogs on MSDN.

when it comes to community support, .Net isn't behind.. you can search through all MSDN Blogs of the C#, VB,C++ and J# Development Team members blog and in there you can post any questions you might come up with and they'd be happy to answer.. also, on the MSDN Forums, you can post from beginners to advance questions so that other developers can interact with you... so you have either MS Support via the developers blog or the community support via MSDN Forums..

Yes the .Net framework is free but the tools are not. The express editions are what most people think as free, and indeed it is but it has some features disabled. It's for babies my friend. The SQL Server 2005 express edition mentioned above can only serve up to 2 users at the same time. The licensed one is what is used for enterprise applications. How can an enterprise application work if only 2 users can access the database at the same time?

The express editions Microsoft offers are for developers who want to learn them and for those who want to develop simple applications. Enterprise applications will be requiring more. Please read more on the differences between the express editions and the licensed ones.

Personally, I believe that this is MS way of getting people trapped in their products. Providing express editions (free) where developers and business owners can start developing applications quickly because they appear to be so easy to use even for non-programmers. Until they start to like it and adapt to it, and then when they start developing real projects (enterprise level) they can't complete it because there are disabled features. I have nothing against Microsoft. Like they say, it's business, it's their strategy.

If you opt for the .Net framework too and using for example C#, you'll be limited to the Microsoft environment which is not free (not referring to the framework). Do you have any idea how much a Windows Server license cost? And how many users one license is limited to serve? How about OS? Even just 10 pcs in a business would be costly installing MS OS. How about other tools?

Still I'm not saying I'm favoring Java EE over .Net or other open-source frameworks. Again, like what I said, this all depends on the company's budget. Each has their own preferences and set of priorities.

But for small businesses who might be a little short on budget, going for open-source might be a wiser choice.

Considering choosing between Visual C# 2005 Express Edition that is very intuitive and good with UI development but has some features disabled, with NetBeans IDE for Java or Eclipse for most languages w/c is totally free and are very very good IDEs.

How about SQL Server 2005 Express Edition that is also a very intuitive and good database but is only limited to serving only 2 users at the same time, compared to MySQL Community Edition that is also free and also good in terms of performance.

[ta3]

How about using MySQL in your .net application. C# and MySQL is a good team up.

btw about the IDE there is Sharp Develop an open source IDE for .net.

[moz_k2]

If the system can't cater anymore the needs of your company
then upgrade.
By updgrade its either adding/improving the functionality or rebuilding the whole system.
It doesn't mean if old na ang technology dli na cya reliable.
COBOL is very old, but still used in many banks.

[bisdakgyud]

dili man siguro ni lisod i migrate kay ang inyong gigamit kay mysql na man so dali ra ni ilisan ang program nga nag access sa data using foxpro into any other application. No problem migrating even dbf since done this with a very large client before online trading application pa. All of this was done without coding in any native language ang gihimo ra kay scripts kay ang migration was from windows to unix based application.

As long as ma makasuwat ug text ang karaang application dali ra i-migrate ang data.

[bigpunch]

I think imo tan-awon there's really a need to re-develop your business applications.
eg. needed na gyud mo mag-intranet which means web based na gyud ang front-end ninyo.
for the database my sql is fine except u want a bigger ang more reliable db...go for ORACLE expensive lang...hehehe

[psyd_1]

I think imo tan-awon there's really a need to re-develop your business applications.
eg. needed na gyud mo mag-intranet which means web based na gyud ang front-end ninyo.
for the database my sql is fine except u want a bigger ang more reliable db...go for ORACLE expensive lang...hehehe

postgres sukol sad ug pang enterprise na dbmgmnt.. its free pa, mejo slower lang.. platform independent..\m/