FREE MASONRY - the Principles

[mistsen leighzie]

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last nlng ni...coz it sims endless (i sed dat already..^_^) nywei,m gonna point dz 1 ting out ha..i was reading ol posts awyl ago..doz hu contradicts or goes against dem only had deir so called "impression" or watever its supposed 2 b frm things deyv hEaRd,deyv rEaD and i dunno wer elz and doz ppl hu stuck wid d org r doz ppl hu knows em pERsONaLLy, hu r pArT of d org demselvs..now if u wer sum1 elz..wud u rather take d word of sum1 hu juz heard it or sum1 hud actually experienced/been part of it? u dcyd..den i wont argue nymore..itz lyk chismis or frm d person hmself? too many opinions na..i c d point y d oderz gave up..u wil olwz b u,me wil olwz b me..ana lng! ^_^

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Guys , remember that SYMBOLS are SYMBOLS . Dont declare anything assertive that is an advantage to you because you chose to have that mindset . Just because the Craft has symbols that symbolizes evil , anti christ , satanism etc means it is . That is your interpretation , and yours only and maybe to some who has also the same mindset you guys have who thinks negatively about the Craft .

I would really love to know a FREEMASON who wrote a book about FREEMASONS wrongdoings / desguises and misleading informations etc . Otherwise it is a WANNABE FREEMASON or a FREMASON who got booted because of unbecoming a FREEMASON .

[pijavier]

Bro SPRINGFIELD_XD_40, i know a friend who has one. I can have the book fotocopied and i can give you. (pinaskuhan) para research sad nimo.

[pijavier]

otherwise sa symbols, ana gyud na, daghan gyud mo react. even ako opinionated ko ani because we cannot just say symbols are symbols.

Guys , remember that SYMBOLS are SYMBOLS . Dont declare anything assertive that is an advantage to you because you chose to have that mindset . Just because the Craft has symbols that symbolizes evil , anti christ , satanism etc means it is . That is your interpretation , and yours only and maybe to some who has also the same mindset you guys have who thinks negatively about the Craft .

I would really love to know a FREEMASON who wrote a book about FREEMASONS wrongdoings / desguises and misleading informations etc . Otherwise it is a WANNABE FREEMASON or a FREMASON who got booted because of unbecoming a FREEMASON .

agree ko nimo nga dako kau ni nga lalisonon ky i've met a friend in Australia who was a sorcerer in Europe. He is now part of a church and has left the practice.

Ang ingon ra gyud niya, how can you argue with a person who was born and raised up that the devil was agod person. that the devil was God.

sama ra na sa kung gipanganak ta sa Afghanistan, ang main Religion nato will be Muslim.

Pero for someone who knows both, maka differentiate nasad cguro siya oi.

Symbols represent power. and they do have power. mga witches and sorcerers use them to cast spells. satanist use them to worship satan, christians use them to worship Christ.

symbols represent what you are and what you honor. symbols represent worship and praise, symbols show a person's values and thoughts.

Ayaw ko ingna mu adto kasa simbahan, tangtangon nimo ang Cross and ilisdan nimo og Pentagram and tell people, ampo ta sa Ginoo? (imagine all the reaction there)

People choose who they follow. some follow for the excitement of it, some follow because they've found something that has helped them, some follow because they simply followed family or friends and some of course follow because they have realized this is the truth. Kung asa ana, aw idya idya na ta. Symbols are not just symbols my friend...

That is your interpretation , and yours only and maybe to some who has also the same mindset you guys have who thinks negatively about the Craft .

So this is indeed a craft?

[pijavier]

About the book sad bro SPRINGFIELD_XD_40, I am not sure if it is all about the wrongdoings of the masons. if so, that is one reason why the author has not written down his name.

once i get it i will photocopy it.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

@BRO PIJAVIER ...

- That is one of the main reasons why the author opted to remain anonymous because he dont want nothing to go back to him as an author who irresponsibly wrote something to gain something who knows .

- Mindsets are a trend , you are right that it is part of how we were bred , raised and related to it but then as time flies also , our decisions matures to a level to know what is right and wrong . You are now suggesting a scenario were probably millions of people was WRONG for affiliating with the Craft and that one author who RELAIZED it all was RIGHT .

- SYMBOLS are SYMBOLS , it depends who distinguishes and defines them . For example , the CATHOLICS CRUCIFIX .... it represents and being defined as a religion of that certain individual as a Roman Catholic while on the otherhand ... we as catholics dont think and define it that way , we see it as a suffering and salvation of our Lord Jesus Christ .

- I appreciate if you can do that for me , I really wanted to read and know more about that anonymous author you are talking about .

[Archer sensAtion]

if mag base lang mo tanan sa BOOKS and CHISMIS... sure ko sayop mo...

na intriga mo?...naa man kaha mo friends na masons or demolay ask dem if pwede mo visit mo sa lodge...

kung inyo pagka intriga padung jud inyo huna2x nga evil ang masonry...naa ra na ninyo...

na apiktahan ba mo?... gi hilabtan mo sa masons?... naa mi sala sa public?what?...

sigi pangutana unya ang questions mo lead jud to EVIL...way GOOD...unsa mana?tinunto na inyo?

kung mangutana gani mo unya tubagon mo... tuo nlang dritso kay kami member mi, kamo dili...simple ra kaau na sabton...

meaning mas kahibaw mi kaysa inyo, and mas NAKAHIBAW mi kaysa anang nag suwat2x ug mga LIBRO...

DeMolay ko, normal ra ako life,way na usab since birth...

dont ask lousy and lame questions, ssssssshhhh dont even try...

[pijavier]

Waaaaaaaaah

[knockout]

@SPRINGFIELD_XD_40
@Archer sensAtion
mga bro, unsa meaning anang obelisk? naa nag stand sa corner mabini ug colon street? then naa sad na makita sa some part in europe.
and even in vatican city. i would be grateful bro kung maka share mo sa inyong opinion.

bro kung symbols sad, kabalo sad ko naa gyud na mga meaning, like sa demolay gud, kanang inyong logo, naa sad na meaning ang mga symbols diha diba? and so with mason.

bro Archer sensAtion, i respect your belief, and iam thankful also you are one member of demolay, bro i believe what you are saying, although dili kaayo ko mo favor sa mason, but dili sad ko parehas nila ni mosimos or mannyamador nga husgahan dayun imong answer, although bro, parehas mi ug side sa atong forum, but it doesn't mean nga parehas sad ko nila nga mo husga sa imong answer, i thank you bro kung maka share paka diri, thumbs up ko sa imo. curious sad ko aning obelisk bro. kay bisan plate number karon naa naman obelisk.

[balatucan]

Seriously, are these Muslim accusations true? (based sa movie url nga gi post ni lucius)

An Organization who would like to:
1. Build a Global Government who would control the masses for Global Union with one Global Leader.
2. Control every aspect of the masses lives including the way one thinks.
3. Control the daily events just to promote that their will be a Global Leader.
4. Manipulate every public opinions just to make the Organizations goal easier.
5. Monitor everything, every human being, every transactions he made, so as each personal informations.
6. Devices the Nostra Damos predicted tiny implants to be used to humans for easy monitoring.

Kani pa jud:
1. AIDS a genetically engineered virus spread thru chicken pox vaccines for third world country. Work daw gihapon sa Organization for their purpose to eliminate people.
2. UN under Free Mason.
3. The Organization as forerunners of the Dajau.
(Forerunners - somewhat something that precedes and indicates the approach of something or someone)
(Dajau - napredict gihapon ni nga human being to be proclaimed soon as a world leader, then later would renounce himself as God)

I really don't like to conclude on these presented show and its narations basin lang ug gidaut ang Organization.
Kuyawan lang pud ta ani if this is all true and basin lang mao ni usa sa nakahimong misterioso sa Free Mason. I just hope that it is not.

For myself lang ha, if being excommunicated sa Holy Catholic Church would be a result if I join, dili nalang siguro ko mopadayon.
I only believe and trust in one God (Thats for sure!). And, that will not be the search for the "knowledge" to the point nga tugkaron ang mystery sa Ginoo. Anyway, we can be good men if we want to. Even outside ta ani nga Org.

Its nice to live a simple life siguro. Nice discussions though. :mrgreen:

im giving my two cents worth of opinion, actually knowledge.

They believe in God. But to what God, that is not clear. What they mentioned is the T.G.A.O.T.U or the Great Architect of the Universe.

One things for sure, they dont like the Pope, Roman Catholic priests and Roman Catholic practices. They blame the Pope for the death of Jacques De Molay, the leader of the Knights Templar believed to be the precursor of modern freemasonry. Worshipping whom they doubt as the true God seems like blasphemy to them. But some Masons are active in Church. Some even serve as lay ministers. I do not know how they reconcile their Masonic beliefs with their faith. I assume some may have intense internal struggles to reconcile both. But I see some who seems not bothered at all being a Mason and an active church worker at the same time.

Freemasonry is a powerful organization. They are almost everywhere, most of them rich and influential persons. If you mess around with them, your in deep trouble because of their strong ties and their natural reaction to protect their own.

They also have secrets. What kind of secrets, that we layman do not know.

If Muslim accusations are true, I rather ally myself with Bin Laden and his extremist followes to stop their plans. At least Bin Laden believes in God, a definite God called Allah.