Eliseo F. Soriano of ADD - SUSPENDED! Makatwiran ba?

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mao lagi... pero kana makigdebate kinahanglan ba jud tawgon nimo ang imo ka-istorya bogo, tarantado, tanga just to prove he is right?

I think he even uses putang ina as one of his expression, now how sure he is that the person nga iya ka-istorya ang mama kay p**a.

you will be licensed to say such words if and only if the person that you are talking with is showing some KAGAGOHAN, KATARANTADOHAN,KABOBOHAN, and KATANGAHAN.....

correction as well, Eli never said that P@$@ ina ..... NEVER..... coz that word is obviously a MURA......

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What kind of logic is that? If you say that the wrong should not be tolerated then you are definitely saying that Eli Soriano himself should not be tolerated.

He himself is a harasser, an intimidater, a name-caller, whatever...

He speaks as if he is right when in fact he is so full of mistakes, especially when it comes to doctrines.

You don't spread the good news of Christ when you harass and intimidate -- you're rather spreading Hate and Division..

Eli Soriano is the biggest loser I have ever seen on television. Nobody can say that he is a humble preacher when in fact he is very self-righteous and judgemental. I can only nod my head in disagreement everytime he begins to mock other religions not minding his own cult's errors and mistakes.

There are also times when he conducts these stupid and biased debates wherein he takes very opportunity to humiliate his so-called "invited" guests. What a bum..

one thing as well...... the WRONG should never be tolerated.... alang alang man ug i prasie nato ang mga sects nga sayop...... during the time of christ...... the people of of god..... were actually harrassed..... until it reached to the extent nga gipatay na ang ilang leader.... si christ.... di ba?.... about sad atong debates.... christ even do some debates against his enemies in faith.... ang mga apostles sad.... makigaway man gani sila usahay......

so wat is happenning right now.... is just a normal scenario..... just a flashback of wat had happened to christ.... 2 thousand years ago.....

Eli never do some harrasments..... even if you could see some episodes of the GMA program DEBATE sina mare and pare...... he do debate at this program without saying those words.... WHY..... this is due to the fact that the people that he is talking with are formal and doesnt show some signs of foolishness......

pero ang uban man niyang kadebate gud... klaro man kaayong walay klaro...... mao ANGAY lang tawgon ug TANGA, GAGO, etc.......

one thing sad... Eli is just doin what the apostles of old times are doing....... mao bitawng gikontrahan sad to silang Pablo, Pedro, etc sa una kay inana man sad sila sa una.....

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robearthFX , just a quick one .... kauban mo sa tinuhuan ni ELI SORIANO or no ? yes or no lang ha .... correct me if im wrong but sa base sa mga tinubagan nimo , murag YES gyud kay if NO ka , you will find him ( ELI ) as the one who is BOBO , TANGA , TARANTADO basing from his attitudes and approach to other people and to the public .

im not a member of Eli Soriano's congregation..... but i do listen to their programs.... at first.... i never like this guy...... pareho ra ko ninyo sa una....... kay mao lagi.... mogamit ug words nga sa atong "tanaw" laway...... human makigdebate lang pirme....... GALAGOT SAD KO ANI NIYA SA UNA.......

pero sa tantong nakong paminaw..... SAKTO man diay ang iyang gipanulti.... kay GABASE MAN SIYA SA BIBLE...... ALL OF THE DOCTRINES...... dili pareha sa uban nga sect...... wala juy basahay ug wala gabase sa bible..... nga unta "reading the bible is one GOD'S COMMANDMENTS man (ISAIAH 34:16).........

pero if you are just to open youre EARS wide enough...... youll see.... and youll say..... "SAKTO MAN DIAY, BISAN TUOD SAKIT"......
gawas ug kun inana mo kagahi.......

[FK]

you will be licensed to say such words if and only if the person that you are talking with is showing some KAGAGOHAN, KATARANTADOHAN,KABOBOHAN, and KATANGAHAN.....

correction as well, Eli never said that P@$@ ina ..... NEVER..... coz that word is obviously a MURA......

wala siya ga ingon? usa man kono na sa rason ngano gi banned siya. because of that word.

now about those kagagohan og oban pa dinha, i think dili gihapon siya angay mo sulti ana, bisan pa og nagpakita pa gago na iyang ka istorya...

another point is kong gago man d i na iyang ka istorya ngano sige pa man siya tubay, kinsa man ang mas gago
a. ang gago
b. ang brayt nga ni patol sa gago.

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pero sa tantong nakong paminaw..... SAKTO man diay ang iyang gipanulti.... kay GABASE MAN SIYA SA BIBLE...... ALL OF THE DOCTRINES......

Ang ako lang is sa tantong paminaw nimo r u also aware of the teachings sa bibliya ? Or ga base lang sad ka sa unsasy gi sulti ni Eli ? Ngano naka ingon man ka na sakto ug base sa bibliya ang sulti ni Eli pod ? Wala ko ni attack nimo ha ako lang gi clarify ang ang credibility nimo ug ni Eli kung ngano naka ingon mo na sakto mo ug tinuod mo .

dili pareha sa uban nga sect...... wala juy basahay ug wala gabase sa bible..... nga unta "reading the bible is one GOD'S COMMANDMENTS man (ISAIAH 34:16).........

Actually bai .... di man basahon ang BIBLIYA kundi sabton . Kay kung basahon lang mahug na siya ug murag bedtime story or aesops fable if you read it literally compared from understanding it deeply . By the way ... sa mga KATOLIKO di siya commandment ni GOD na basahon ang bibliya nor part of the 10 Commandments but Gods will to make mankind share the goodnews of the bible .

pero if you are just to open youre EARS wide enough...... youll see.... and youll say..... "SAKTO MAN DIAY, BISAN TUOD SAKIT"......
gawas ug kun inana mo kagahi.......

I will agree of SAKTO but TUOD SAKIT is not in my vocabulary bai . Did you ask your self that if you were Eli , cant you spread the good news by not making it SAKIT sa pagdawat ug sabot sa katyawhan ? That is IRONICALLY sharing the BADNEWS na w/c contradicts the teachings of the bible .

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pero sa tantong nakong paminaw..... SAKTO man diay ang iyang gipanulti.... kay GABASE MAN SIYA SA BIBLE...... ALL OF THE DOCTRINES......

Ang ako lang is sa tantong paminaw nimo r u also aware of the teachings sa bibliya ? Or ga base lang sad ka sa unsasy gi sulti ni Eli ? Ngano naka ingon man ka na sakto ug base sa bibliya ang sulti ni Eli pod ? Wala ko ni attack nimo ha ako lang gi clarify ang ang credibility nimo ug ni Eli kung ngano naka ingon mo na sakto mo ug tinuod mo .

dili pareha sa uban nga sect...... wala juy basahay ug wala gabase sa bible..... nga unta "reading the bible is one GOD'S COMMANDMENTS man (ISAIAH 34:16).........

Actually bai .... di man basahon ang BIBLIYA kundi sabton . Kay kung basahon lang mahug na siya ug murag bedtime story or aesops fable if you read it literally compared from understanding it deeply . By the way ... sa mga KATOLIKO di siya commandment ni GOD na basahon ang bibliya nor part of the 10 Commandments but Gods will to make mankind share the goodnews of the bible .

pero if you are just to open youre EARS wide enough...... youll see.... and youll say..... "SAKTO MAN DIAY, BISAN TUOD SAKIT"......
gawas ug kun inana mo kagahi.......

I will agree of SAKTO but TUOD SAKIT is not in my vocabulary bai . Did you ask your self that if you were Eli , cant you spread the good news by not making it SAKIT sa pagdawat ug sabot sa katyawhan ? That is IRONICALLY sharing the BADNEWS na w/c contradicts the teachings of the bible .

i had afford to say nga SAKTO ang mga gipansulti ni Eli tungod kay he is basing all from the bible..... and no other books..... you mentioned sad nga wala gipabasa sa katolik ang bible..... dont tell me that the catholics are using a different bible.... nga unta naa man sa ISAIAH 34:16 lagi nga commandent man jud nang "reading and seeking the book"...... bisan pa sa catholic version sa bible.... pareho ra man gihapon ang pagkastate brod......

and remember this...... even jesus and his apostles were that "harsh" against their enemies during their times......... they are also using those words.... TANGA, etc........ even harsher than those.......

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you will be licensed to say such words if and only if the person that you are talking with is showing some KAGAGOHAN, KATARANTADOHAN,KABOBOHAN, and KATANGAHAN.....

correction as well, Eli never said that P@$@ ina ..... NEVER..... coz that word is obviously a MURA......

wala siya ga ingon? onsa man kono na sa rason ngano gi banned siya. because of that word.

now about those kagagohan og oban pa dinha, i think dili gihapon siya angay mo sulti ana, bisan pa og nagpakita pa gago na iyang ka istorya...

another point is kong gago man d i na iyang ka istorya ngano sige pa man siya tubay, kinsa man ang mas gago
a. ang gago
b. ang brayt nga ni patol sa gago.

he never uttered that word... p!#$ ina..... the reason why naban ang program tungod kay kuno tungod sa words nga.... GAGO, TARANTADO, etc..... pero i believe na pay deeper nga secret behind sa pagban.... naay usa ka religious sect nga LAKAS sa government..... then.... mao na to... ingon ana kasayon.....

if you are also watching the iglesia ni cristos program.... they are also using such words..... TANGA, GAGO, etc......

another point is kong gago man d i na iyang ka istorya ngano sige pa man siya tubay, kinsa man ang mas gago
a. ang gago
b. ang brayt nga ni patol sa gago

mao gani...... thats the objective ni Eli...... para mamulat ang mga tao nga nailad aning mga tawong GAGO!!!.... asay mas gago

a. ang brayt nga ni patol sa gago
b. ang brayt nga NAILAD SA GAGO?

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i had afford to say nga SAKTO ang mga gipansulti ni Eli tungod kay he is basing all from the bible..... and no other books..... you mentioned sad nga wala gipabasa sa katolik ang bible..... dont tell me that the catholics are using a different bible.... nga unta naa man sa ISAIAH 34:16 lagi nga commandent man jud nang "reading and seeking the book"...... bisan pa sa catholic version sa bible.... pareho ra man gihapon ang pagkastate brod......

Mao na ang BIG question bro kay matod nimo base tanan panulti ni ELi ang iyahang gi preach sa bible yet what kind of basing it ? Dako kaau ang deperensya sa reading and understanding bro , mao na akong point . The reason why I asked , because if he ( ELI ) understood it then he has no reason at all to use the harsh words as claimed .


As to ur claim that CATHOLICS dont read bible , a real and devoted catholic doesnt read the bible but understands the bible's teachings . Reading and seeking the book has something more deeper to offer , not just literally bai . I would assume seeking is the word use to understand the inputs of the bibles contents and not seek the book itself LITERALLY .

and remember this...... even jesus and his apostles were that "harsh" against their enemies during their times......... they are also using those words.... TANGA, etc........ even harsher than those.......

I cant remember it in any form being told nor narrated from the bible , even up to the deepest meanings of the contents that JESUS and the APOSTLES were harsh to their enemies . That would contradict HIS presence of this world as our saviour and GODS messenger of LOVE and PEACE .

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kong ang INC naggamit og Gago... dapat ang kanang duha ka show maoy i-suspend.

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palihug lang gud ta ug basa ang tibuok then "understand" ang Book of Acts brad.... daghan ka nga makitan didto nga mga encounters sa people of God..... against their enemies..... i just forgot the exact verse of it when the bible said some harsh words...... pero ill be seeking for it promise.....

reminder sad brad..... Reading and Understanding are two different things.......

"Seek out of the book of Jehovah, and read; not one of these shall fail, none shall lack its mate; for My mouth has commanded, and His Spirit has gathered them. "
Isaiah 34 : 16

so seeking, reading and understanding are three different things....... so you must seek first.... then read it..... then unya ra nang comprehension.......

ang nakabati man gud sa katoliks...... sige lang sila paminaw sa pari..... mobasa ra ug usa ka verse kada dominggo..... dayon i explain dayon sa pari.... daghan na kaayo ang yawyaw out of that single verse..... ang mga audience sad..... tigpaminaw ra intawn...... wala unta ko nakaoffend.....

sa akong man gud nga nabantayan ninyo..... i bet dili man kaayo mo viewers sa ila nga program... or if not.... wala pa jud mo kakita.....

sa ako na ginaingon..... pareho ra ko ninyo sa una( katolik ko sa una).... who.... in the first place.... disliked Eli...... pero sa regular nga pagpaminaw..... makarealize ra..... ambot ug mahitabo sad ba na sa inyo..... or stay solid jud mo sa inyo na sect........ bisan klaro na kaayo ang mga sayop........