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  1. #61

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?


    Quote Originally Posted by amingb
    Bro mas maau jud misahan nang mga tawo salbahis mamatay sa shootout oi kay ug dili misahanna mag Kundinado jud na ....
    wahahahahaha pgkatoytoy...

  2. #62

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    Quote Originally Posted by chilakang
    ang purpose sa misa ky para sa patay mn dba sa mga Catholic? para sa iyang mga binuhatan while buhi pa cya and it helps kng malangit ba cya or dli.

    but from what i believe in according sa Bible, we can't do nothing to help the deadman para malangit cya or unsa. ang purpose sa service (misa for Catholic) is para sa mga buhi to prepare ourselves kng kta na ang kwaon. Salvation is a personal thing.
    Lahi2x diay pag tuo ning Roman Catholic sa ...

    Inig ka matay sa tawo adto mana sa Purgatory e purified na cia did2 inig ka purify na niya ad2 na cia sa Heaven.

  3. #63

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    para nis Mga Roman Catholic : ayaw lang mo suko nako ha

    Inig ka matay sa tawo diba adto man sa Purgatory meaning maluwas jud ang tawo ? bisan salbahis ?

  4. #64

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    ambot lang sad bro, kay wala paman sad tao namatay unya ni balik then ni ingon nga inita diay sa emperno oi. hehehe joke.

    @amingb
    bro, kuyawa ani gud, daghana anig process before ma adto sa heaven? mura man mineral water. hehe joke.
    tinuod kaha ni bro? naa kaha ni sa bible nga process?


  5. #65

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    sakto amingb pero kinsa may makasulti nga salbahis ang tao bro? kinsa man ang mo judge di ba Ginoo man? cguro naa lang mga tao nga cigurista.

    pero wala gyud nay gamit. bisan unsaon og bali bali, kay una, patay na ang tao, ikaduha walay porgatoryo. "And man is destined to die once and after that to face judgement" Not go to purgatory. there is no such word in the Bible bro. if naa man, pleas share ky ato basahon.

  6. #66

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    Quote Originally Posted by pijavier
    sakto amingb pero kinsa may makasulti nga salbahis ang tao bro? kinsa man ang mo judge di ba Ginoo man? cguro naa lang mga tao nga cigurista.

    pero wala gyud nay gamit. bisan unsaon og bali bali, kay una, patay na ang tao, ikaduha walay porgatoryo. "And man is destined to die once and after that to face judgement" Not go to purgatory. there is no such word in the Bible bro. if naa man, pleas share ky ato basahon.
    OT: ngad2 sa purgatory na thread ai... hehehe

  7. #67

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    Quote Originally Posted by pijavier
    sakto amingb pero kinsa may makasulti nga salbahis ang tao bro? kinsa man ang mo judge di ba Ginoo man? cguro naa lang mga tao nga cigurista.

    pero wala gyud nay gamit. bisan unsaon og bali bali, kay una, patay na ang tao, ikaduha walay porgatoryo. "And man is destined to die once and after that to face judgement" Not go to purgatory. there is no such word in the Bible bro. if naa man, pleas share ky ato basahon.
    tagbaw nami lalis ana bro wa jud mag daog ...

  8. #68

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    Quote Originally Posted by pijavier
    para sa ako ang patay, whether nag suicide or wala, dili na angay misahan.. what is it for? para malangit? unsaon nalang ang pinaka last nga tao, kinsa may mo misa niya.

    there is no basis sa Bible nga misahan ang tao, tradition ra cguro na sa Catholic Church.

    ky kung naa na sa Bible, ngano wala man misahi si Jesus pag ka matay niya? I am using Jesus bec he is an impt person sa Bible. if an impt person as Jesus, wala gani misahi, walay gamit na d ba?

    (voicing out lang)
    naa na sa bible pijavier oi.. wala lang tingali gi apil sa imong bible..

    tara ay..

    2Mac.12: 42-45


    [42] and they turned to prayer, beseeching that the sin which had been committed might be wholly blotted out. And the noble Judas exhorted the people to keep themselves free from sin, for they had seen with their own eyes what had happened because of the sin of those who had fallen.
    [43] He also took up a collection, man by man, to the amount of two thousand drachmas of silver, and sent it to Jerusalem to provide for a sin offering. In doing this he acted very well and honorably, taking account of the resurrection.
    [44] For if he were not expecting that those who had fallen would rise again, it would have been superfluous and foolish to pray for the dead.
    [45] But if he was looking to the splendid reward that is laid up for those who fall asleep in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. Therefore he made atonement for the dead, that they might be delivered from their sin.

    Bisan si Jesus mismo nag pray sa patay nga si Lazarus

    Jn 11:41
    [41] So they took away the stone. And Jesus lifted up his eyes and said, "Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me

    St. Paul prayed for Onesiphorus who is already died, that he might find mercy from God in that Day of Judgment.

    2Tim 1:16-18
    [16] May the Lord grant mercy to the household of Onesiph'orus, for he often refreshed me; he was not ashamed of my chains,
    [17] but when he arrived in Rome he searched for me eagerly and found me --
    [18] may the Lord grant him to find mercy from the Lord on that Day -- and you well know all the service he rendered at Ephesus.

    nya bro asa may imong gi ingnon nga wala sa Bible nga pangadyi an ang patay?

  9. #69

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    Quote Originally Posted by knockout
    ambot lang sad bro, kay wala paman sad tao namatay unya ni balik then ni ingon nga inita diay sa emperno oi. hehehe joke.

    @amingb
    bro, kuyawa ani gud, daghana anig process before ma adto sa heaven? mura man mineral water. hehe joke.
    tinuod kaha ni bro? naa kaha ni sa bible nga process?

    Mao mana meaning sa Purgatory wa ta mahims ana .... naa na sa Bible sa Macaabes naay purgatory did2.

  10. #70

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    Quote Originally Posted by amingb
    para nis Mga Roman Catholic : ayaw lang mo suko nako ha

    Inig ka matay sa tawo diba adto man sa Purgatory meaning maluwas jud ang tawo ? bisan salbahis ?
    gi dala man gani sa paraiso dayon ni Cristo tong kriminal kadongan niya ug lansang sa cross.. walay dili ma luwas sa Ginoo bro basta mangayo lang ka ug pasaylo...

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