Soft Dev or Web Dev?

[noisterx]

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wow! what a great conversation here i love it... as i read all your posts i see no wrong ideas here, all of you are correct... but for me, practically speaking web is the best... wahhhhhh

[digitalsuperman]

Based from what I know, now most businesses wants to transfer their applications from client to web. Even for in-house applications. For minimal overhead perhaps.

Mobile apps might show a lot of potential but I personally think moving business applications to mobile will take very long pa if not at all. But then again we never know.

i don't think its quite that far.. from my experience we use high end PDA's such as Dell Axim...although phase out na but its the most advanced PDA's.. 624MHz and 256 RAM.. siguro depende pud na sa demand..like ours, our customers are always mobile and they want to be productive so they want us to migrate all our desktop business apps to mobile business apps..so far so good..although lisud lang gyud kay hinay gyud siya..but we try to make our code more optimized such as using DTO's using C#, then using that XML from the DTO, we compress it then transport it through web service..then only drawback i see with mobile apps is the data transport, for now, Compact Framework doesn't support binary serialization and i don't think DataContract can help either since its also a form of XML Serialization..but for now compression will do.. we did an R&D with UMPC, the problem with UMPC's is that it isn't stable..its in its infancy stage so dili gyud kaayo siya reliable..but if in case mo stable nana..desktop business apps will be running on Mobile workstations such as UMPC's..

[simoncpu]

Cool, cool. Nag try sad ko ug Angstrom and Familiar Linux on my HP iPAQ. Cool kaayo. Mag try sad ko ug BSD kung naa ko time. Kung maka save na ko ug enough money, palit sad ko ug OpenMoko.

BTW, just to be clear, I wasn't saying that web dev has no future; I still code in PHP and in other Web languages because it brings food to my table. What I'm trying to say is that web dev has become mainstream already. Unlike in the mid-90's, during the Internet bubble era, we can no longer get rich designing non W3C-compliant pages with horrible <blink> and <marquee> tags. Hehehe.

@digitalsuperman: try daw research ug REST (representational state transfer). No need for complicated XML stuff na... hehehe.

[ simon.cpu ]

[digitalsuperman]

@simoncpu: salamat kaayo bai.. i'll try to look it up..

[silent-kill]

may it be webdev, sofdev or mobile.. just remember you only need 1 skill to master to be successful

[cebugdev]

Also consider embedded/Firmware development. Challenging and lingaw! kng ganahan mo ug challenge sa programming, i think ang web scripting na area kay over crowded na.

and ofcourse people are going crazy for gadgets these days!

[Jansian]

For me depende sa imong mga prospected clients or sa company na imo gusto sudlan or sa imo gusto makat.onan. Sa web, gamay ra jud kaayo ka ug problemahon in terms of deployment sa project while sa mga desktop applications kung mag deploy ka every pc na gakinahanglan sa system dapat imo installan sa software. Sa web, as long as naay internet kaya ra iaccess sa client ang program anywhere in the globe. Sa desktop, mao japon although pwede na2 iconnect ang databases through web, millennium switch, etc but still if ang desktop who wants to access the database wlay installed application it's useless. Sa web, you base the price by its complicity of the project and the scope while sa desktop you could have many options pwede scope + complicity, pwede license acquisition, pwede low cost but multiple installation, or it could be na icombine nimo tanan considering sa payment capability of the client and capability of the software. Sa desktop, sayon ra ang pagmanage sa programming not like sa web na stateless cya lisud imanage or debug ang errors dapat carefull ka. Sa web, because of the newly developed third party software, kaya na niya mulook like desktop application pero the behavior is different compare to the real desktop application. So, it's really up to you developer syempre if the client needs web application dapat web jud imo buhaton and same with desktop application. Bottom line, if kabalo ka sa duha mas dali ka kakwarta and that's reality.

[darknight83]

kung asa imong strength ad2 ka mo venture...

[digitalsuperman]

For me depende sa imong mga prospected clients or sa company na imo gusto sudlan or sa imo gusto makat.onan. Sa web, gamay ra jud kaayo ka ug problemahon in terms of deployment sa project while sa mga desktop applications kung mag deploy ka every pc na gakinahanglan sa system dapat imo installan sa software. Sa web, as long as naay internet kaya ra iaccess sa client ang program anywhere in the globe. Sa desktop, mao japon although pwede na2 iconnect ang databases through web, millennium switch, etc but still if ang desktop who wants to access the database wlay installed application it's useless. Sa web, you base the price by its complicity of the project and the scope while sa desktop you could have many options pwede scope + complicity, pwede license acquisition, pwede low cost but multiple installation, or it could be na icombine nimo tanan considering sa payment capability of the client and capability of the software. Sa desktop, sayon ra ang pagmanage sa programming not like sa web na stateless cya lisud imanage or debug ang errors dapat carefull ka. Sa web, because of the newly developed third party software, kaya na niya mulook like desktop application pero the behavior is different compare to the real desktop application. So, it's really up to you developer syempre if the client needs web application dapat web jud imo buhaton and same with desktop application. Bottom line, if kabalo ka sa duha mas dali ka kakwarta and that's reality.

nahan lang unta ko mo react sa statement above..kanang akong gi bold..

actually bro, i don't know about other PL's but in dotnet we use remoting.. we invoke the application remotely. no installation is needed.. we can develop an application launcher website using javascript and provide a link that will invoke the application remotely, so even icon wala na.all you have to do is open your browser and type the website and launch the application. you can also run it locally coz invoking the application it will download the whole application and its dependencies locally via your profile. ang mahitabo is kung magdeploy man gani ka ug assemblies, adto nalang ka sa domain controller where nakahost imong IIS for remoting..mura ra gihapon ug web, naa kay IIS, then butangan nimo virtual directory...then makapili pud ka sa remoting if TCP/IP or HTTP then if public imong app meaning can be used outside sa inyong domain, compatible pud siya HTTPS and SSL..

[newstarb]

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