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  1. #111

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    Quote Originally Posted by geremarv
    as what cotholic said naa kono porgatoryo unsa mana ka tinood
    Pinangga gyud ta ni God kay iya gyud ta paagi-on og PORGAtoryo para limpyo nata ig adto niya kay basin maglain ato tiyan unya,..... u know na unsa mugawas basta maglain ang tiyan.. Agi gyud ta PORGAtoryo... Amen Amen?

    Ikaw gyud ha wala ka nakat-on sa imo Basic Cristian Doctrain nimo? 3years bayo to...
    Ikaw ha pa opense nya tika.... Heheheh... Tugan tika Sir nimo sa BCD...

  2. #112

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    Ikaw nag pa PORGA nabaka Toryo?

  3. #113

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightning_mcqueen95
    Pinangga gyud ta ni God kay iya gyud ta paagi-on og PORGAtoryo para limpyo nata ig adto niya kay basin maglain ato tiyan unya,..... u know na unsa mugawas basta maglain ang tiyan.. Agi gyud ta PORGAtoryo... Amen Amen?

    Ikaw gyud ha wala ka nakat-on sa imo Basic Cristian Doctrain nimo? 3years bayo to...
    Ikaw ha pa opense nya tika.... Heheheh... Tugan tika Sir nimo sa BCD...

    ha?
    unsa bcd ba? unsa mana basic christian doctrine bai?....onsa man oppense ba? kinsa man nga sir?? tarung oi!!!!!!!ako nahibaw.an meaning bcd bai ky bold copy doctrine....hehehehe

    <peace>

  4. #114

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    Quote Originally Posted by geremarv

    ha?
    unsa bcd ba? unsa mana basic christian doctrine bai?....onsa man oppense ba? kinsa man nga sir?? tarung oi!!!!!!!ako nahibaw.an meaning bcd bai ky bold copy doctrine....hehehehe

    <peace>
    Halahalaha... Ang BCD imo gi-usab ang meaning!!! bantay lang gyud ka mabasahan gani na...
    Mao ra nya na maka pa dismis nimo Titing.... Tug-an tika ni Sir, Titing ha.. Halaka ka Undo...
    Hehehehe... BCD= BOLD COPY DOCTRINE? halahala ka Titing..... Mabasahan gani ni diri.. aww..
    DISMISAL ra man sa ITP training program nimo sa Skol.... Pray nalang ng dili ni mabasahan Titing..... Hehehheheheh
    PEACE...........

  5. #115

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetfaith
    The Catechism of the Catholic Church defines purgatory as a "purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven," which is experienced by those "who die in God’s grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven" (CCC 1030). It notes that "this final purification of the elect . . . is entirely different from the punishment of the damned" (CCC 1031).

    The purification is necessary because, as Scripture teaches, nothing unclean will enter the presence of God in heaven (Rev. 21:27) and, while we may die with our mortal sins forgiven, there can still be many impurities in us, specifically venial sins and the temporal punishment due to sins already forgiven.
    Though the word purgatory is nowhere found in the Scripture, it does not disprove the existence of purgatory or the fact that belief in it has always been part of Church teaching.
    Those who deny the existence of purgatory tend to touch upon only briefly the history of the belief. They prefer to claim that the Bible speaks only of heaven and hell. Wrong. It speaks plainly of a third condition, commonly called the limbo of the Fathers, where the just who had died before the redemption were waiting for heaven to be opened to them. After his death and before his resurrection, Christ visited those experiencing the limbo of the Fathers and preached to them the good news that heaven would now be opened to them (1 Pet. 3:19). These people thus were not in heaven, but neither were they experiencing the torments of hell.
    The Bible does teach that purgatory exists, even if it doesn’t use that word and even if 1 Peter 3:19 refers to a place other than purgatory.

    Christ refers to the sinner who "will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come" (Matt. 12:32), suggesting that one can be freed after death of the consequences of one’s sins.

    Similarly, Paul tells us that, when we are judged, each man’s work will be tried. And what happens if a righteous man’s work fails the test? "He will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire" (1 Cor 3:15). Now this loss, this penalty, can’t refer to consignment to hell, since no one is saved there; and heaven can’t be meant, since there is no suffering ("fire") there. The Catholic doctrine of purgatory alone explains this passage.

    Then, of course, there is the Bible’s approval of prayers for the dead: "In doing this he acted in a very excellent and noble way, inasmuch as he had the resurrection of the dead in view; for if he were not expecting the dead to rise again, it would have been useless and foolish to pray for them in death. But if he did this with a view to the splendid reward that awaits those who had gone to rest in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin" (2 Macc. 12:43–45). Prayers are not needed by those in heaven, and no one can help those in hell. That means some people must be in a third condition, at least temporarily. This verse so clearly illustrates the existence of purgatory that, at the time of the Reformation, Protestants had to cut the books of the Maccabees out of their Bibles in order to avoid accepting the doctrine.


    sa cotholic lang na bro and then sa uban unsa man? pero if unless buhi ka dli ka mag-bag.o imperno gyud...den la sad na sa bible...hehehe

    <peace>

  6. #116

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    Quote Originally Posted by twelve11
    what u mean bsan asa bro?
    Basin asa raman siguro ta pwede ana... PORGAtoryo man kah?

  7. #117

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightning_mcqueen95
    Halahalaha... Ang BCD imo gi-usab ang meaning!!! bantay lang gyud ka mabasahan gani na...
    Mao ra nya na maka pa dismis nimo Titing.... Tug-an tika ni Sir, Titing ha.. Halaka ka Undo...
    Hehehehe... BCD= BOLD COPY DOCTRINE? halahala ka Titing..... Mabasahan gani ni diri.. aww..
    DISMISAL ra man sa ITP training program nimo sa Skol.... Pray nalang ng dili ni mabasahan Titing..... Hehehheheheh
    PEACE...........
    nang hadlok ka bro.. unsa mana nga skol ba ngi.ga gud ana....unsa man sad boot pasabot nimo ana itp? itak2x sa porgatoryo?hahaha........mao man gyud na meaning sa bcd bro karon pako ana basic christian doctrine,,,unsa man mga topic ana bro? x lang ba g.hapon or porgatoryo na ang topic?...hehehehe

    <peace>

  8. #118

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    Quote Originally Posted by geremarv
    nang hadlok ka bro.. unsa mana nga skol ba ngi.ga gud ana....unsa man sad boot pasabot nimo ana itp? itak2x sa porgatoryo?hahaha........mao man gyud na meaning sa bcd bro karon pako ana basic christian doctrine,,,unsa man mga topic ana bro? x lang ba g.hapon or porgatoryo na ang topic?...hehehehe

    <peace>
    Ang PORGAToryo tinuod gyud na: Ngano? Kun mabasahan n ni Titing diri makabalo raka.
    -- Tips: kun mang-guna naka ug unsa pa nga sugo sa General Services sa imo for 1week kay sigi ka late pa gyud kana mao na imo pangutana sa PORGAtoryo... Hehehehe....

  9. #119

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightning_mcqueen95
    Ang PORGAToryo tinuod gyud na: Ngano? Kun mabasahan n ni Titing diri makabalo raka.
    -- Tips: kun mang-guna naka ug unsa pa nga sugo sa General Services sa imo for 1week kay sigi ka late pa gyud kana mao na imo pangutana sa PORGAtoryo... Hehehehe....
    mao ba? i dont know gyud bro..ah mao ba na imo gingon na offense bro? ngi.ga gud aNA nga skol bro...late lang........unsa na nga skol bro? dha ka gkan bro nga skol? naka solay nka ana bro?....pa.enroll ko bro..para ka sulay ko unsa na nga porgatoryo nga imo gi mean,,,,,,hehehehehe

    <peace>



  10. #120

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    wala ko ka sulay porgatoryo bro kay wala man ko bitok gud. Bro, ang offince bro kanang makaagi ka og PURGAtoryo. Kasabot ka bro. Kay batch 12 manko wala pana nauso sa amo... Aware man mi sa PORGAtoryu gud ato bro.
    Ikaw karon kay hasta langit ug Imperno wala man ka kaila.
    Pero ni-adto na diay siya sa langit og padungnaka sa Imperno, kana kun dili ka madala saPURGAtoryo. Hehehehehe...... 1 week raman nang PORGAtoryo bro.
    Nindot pud didto kay daghan ka kat-unan. Guna, Katkat buntod, limyo sa hagdanan(taas rabana na bro kay naa man langit dapit diha), mag map pagyud. hehehehehe...
    15batch man ka Titing... hehehehe...

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