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  1. #131

    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    abi nako ug naa nay tubag adtong question ni boss @tsunade --- wala paman diay gihapon.


    ayaw lagi ug likay .. tubaga sa to cya ....
    I'm waiting sa mga specific verses pud ug sa issue ato na mga verses..

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    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    dili boss. kanang ing-ana mag botbot pa hinuon na. kakuha man ko sa imong point. pero botbot kaayo gud na ang ginoo ninyo kay nag hatag sa iyang GUIDE na book sa iyang pinalannga na katawhan sa ing-ana ka dugay.
    ngano di man katuohan? unsay rason nga nakasulti ka ana?

  2. #132
    Deism > Atheism

    Is more logical.

  3. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    ako na ni na sulti before boss. dba ang technical meaning sa bible is collection of books. and sa each book, was written by this guy and that guy and the best NOVEL of all time kay naa sa bible, ang exodus na storya.

    sa kang noah na storya, about sa great flood, dba ni ingon man inyong bible na a pair of every animal in the world nisulod didto sa arc and mao na karon ang atong mga surviving animals sa present time, now, question here is ... how about ang mga mananap na naa sa pilipinas ?? ang naa sa japan ?? ang naa sa australia ?? gi-unsa man nila ug adto sa middle-east para makasulod sa arc


    and ang pinaka dako gyud na question is ang story sa Sodom and Gomorrha, ang ginoo gyud ninyo ang nasuko kay grabi na ka walay au ang mga tao didto, grabi to divine punishment ............................ fast forward to today ... kadaghan cities karon sa kalibutan na mas grabi pa sa sodom and gommorha sa inyong bible, but where is your god now

    daghan ra kaayo mga botbot na mga storya ....
    sa kang noah na storya, about sa great flood, dba ni ingon man inyong bible na a pair of every animal in the world nisulod didto sa arc and mao na karon ang atong mga surviving animals sa present time, now, question here is ... how about ang mga mananap na naa sa pilipinas ?? ang naa sa japan ?? ang naa sa australia ?? gi-unsa man nila ug adto sa middle-east para makasulod sa arc
    Mura nig question nga pang bata, There is a theory that the oceans were the result of the universal flood, so before the flood there must be quite a few bodies of water that land animals traveled on land to the arc.
    Naa to video about Kent Hovind regarding the universal flood which you would easily ditch.

    nd ang pinaka dako gyud na question is ang story sa Sodom and Gomorrha, ang ginoo gyud ninyo ang nasuko kay grabi na ka walay au ang mga tao didto, grabi to divine punishment ............................ fast forward to today ... kadaghan cities karon sa kalibutan na mas grabi pa sa sodom and gommorha sa inyong bible, but where is your god now
    Dili ta maka judge sa mga tao dili ta hukom only God is the judge.
    What you show yourself here is you are a Judge and know every thought of every people.
    "And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually."

  4. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    ikaw maoy bugo. kanusa na na happen ang arc ?? kanusa ang last na land bridges na melt ?? ngano diay naa diay land bridges sa una from pilipinas to china para maka baklay sila padulong sa mid-east

    if that Arc sheyt truly happened, then the TAMARAW sa pilipinas kay naka sakay na sa arc, so gi-unsa niya ug adto sa mid-east

    gamit sad mo sa inyong utok oi, dili kay puro ra mo tuo2x ana. e-relate ninyo tanan.


    shut up gud ana inyong mga linya sa bible kay murag OA kaayo. dili man gyud ninyo ma relate ang history sa kalibutan ug sa bible kay kana inyong bible botbot ra na tanan.


    balik sa inyong past sa inyong bible "history" ... talkative lagi kaayo inyong god sa una pero karon, nganong "miracles" naman lang ?



    daghan kaayo proof na ANYONE can make their own god --- gaan tamo example --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judiel_Nieva
    ikaw maoy bugo. kanusa na na happen ang arc ?? kanusa ang last na land bridges na melt ?? ngano diay naa diay land bridges sa una from pilipinas to china para maka baklay sila padulong sa mid-east

    if that Arc sheyt truly happened, then the TAMARAW sa pilipinas kay naka sakay na sa arc, so gi-unsa niya ug adto sa mid-east
    The Animals in the arc may have been lot fewer than what we see today and may even been only local to the area but there must have been enough species to be able to multiply and diversify as what we see today.

    The animals in the arc did not come from the animals that we see today but the animals that we see today came from the animals in the arc and through thousands of years had spread through out the world and adopted and formed many different kinds of veriety and breeds this is also called Adaptive Radiation.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptive_radiation

    balik sa inyong past sa inyong bible "history" ... talkative lagi kaayo inyong god sa una pero karon, nganong "miracles" naman lang ?
    The bible should be enough and Jesus sent his holy spirit to lead us unto all truth. John 16:13.
    Jesus gave us the spirit of Prophecy as evidence. (see 2 Peter 1:9)
    If you could have been willing to learn you will learn.
    We have peoples lives changed by the power of Jesus.
    Miracles, and Life lessons, Peoples Testimonies, Different fields of Science.

    If you would be willing you will find more than enough.
    God does not reveal himself through entertainment, through human lust, through worldly sinful ways and disbelief.
    God reveals himself through belief, repented heart, through transformed character, through discipline, through suffering, through Love, through careful study of his word, through seeking him and loving God and your fellow men, self-denial, This is where you find God.
    Not by your own whims of lust desires.
    To put it in laymans terms if you intend to learn computer programing but you study embroidery although they may have similar aspects but is far from truly understanding the subject.

  5. #135
    speaking of the so called great "global" flood.
    here are some inconsistencies to look into...

    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Global_flood

    trip2x lang gud..hehe

  6. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    wala na nako gibasa boss. pero para masudlan ning tibuok land mass sa kalibutan ug tubig, dapat na mag uwan ug at least 100k years non stop.

    pero klaro kau ning mga religious mo ingon ug ... IT'S THE POWER OF GOD hahahaah
    pag may time ka boss, susiha gani ang link kay makalingaw
    hahahahahaha

  7. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    ako nang nabasa boss.

    mao gyud bitaw to akong point sa panahon na kita pa nag lalis boss hahahahahahha. na dapat e-relate ang time line sa history sa bible ug sa other regions sa kalibutan kay dili gyud mag abot ....

    kay ang bible ug ang quran boss, same ra gyud sila, ang knowledge na naa didto is about ra sa area na naa didto, sa mid-east ra gyud. klaro kau na tao ra nag suwat


    ug kanang inamaw pero sakto na argument na nganong wala man gyud mention ug kangaroo sa ilang bible ??
    di man ko mutuo nga global flood to boss to boss, frequent man maglunop sa Mesopotamian area sa una. para nako sa una kay feel ra to sa author nga global ang flood kay wa pa sila kahibaw nga perti diay kadako sa kalibutan..mura bag namasol ta tunga sa dagat...nig lingi nimu murag tibuok kalibutan dagat..hahahaha si moses diay by the way ang author sa genesis based ra pud sa mga oral traditions passed down to him..so samot nga di ka tuohan kay murag 1200 years give or take I think ang timeline between noah and moses.

  8. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    tua na sad, nagpataka na sad ug storya ... unsay nag diversify kabalo ba ka pila pa ka hundreds of thousands of years before maka evolve ang usa ka specie

    ug ayaw ko tagae ug wiki na link kay nagpasabot ra gyud ka na karon pa na nimo gi-research ....

    paghilum lagi ana imong mga quotation sa bible, wala nay unod. maka buysit nuon na ug samot sa discussion.


    kana imong THIS IS WHERE YOU FIND GOD ----------------- PALUSOT NA STORYA !!! mao ra na. tan-awa gud to sa una sa inyong history, si Abraham kay gisugo gyud directly sa inyong ginoo to kill his son and direct sad gyud to cya gi-stop sa ginoo. si noah. si moses..... karon nganong wala naman ? kay klaro kaayo na atik ra to inyong mga storya sa bible .....
    Wala nimo basaha unsa nang Adaptive Radiation diretso rakag comment. Dili na kailangan mu take ug millions of years for a kind of animals to diversify. Just look at the many breeds of Dogs, Cats, ect..

    kana imong THIS IS WHERE YOU FIND GOD ----------------- PALUSOT NA STORYA !!! mao ra na. tan-awa gud to sa una sa inyong history, si Abraham kay gisugo gyud directly sa inyong ginoo to kill his son and direct sad gyud to cya gi-stop sa ginoo. si noah. si moses..... karon nganong wala naman ? kay klaro kaayo na atik ra to inyong mga storya sa bible .....
    Daghan kaau 1st hand testimonies about peoples experience with divine intervention.

  9. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    wala na nako gibasa boss. pero para masudlan ning tibuok land mass sa kalibutan ug tubig, dapat na mag uwan ug at least 100k years non stop.

    pero klaro kau ning mga religious mo ingon ug ... IT'S THE POWER OF GOD hahahaah


    Some creationist said:
    - Space is a liquid.
    - Space is not real or fake.
    - The Moon is just a light.
    - Satellites isn't real.
    - The Sun is just 3000 miles up.
    - Gravity is a HOAX
    - Rockets does not work in space, (they think propeller functions the same as rockets.)
    - The Earth isn't spinning.

    - Dinosaurs isn't real. (but Ken Ham have them printed on their fairy tale books.)
    - Dinosaurs did ate banana leaf and oranges.





    and many more.
    Last edited by tsunade; 09-03-2018 at 09:23 AM.

  10. #140
    The Earth is Flat:


    A very convincing model on how the sun revolve/rotate around the Flat Earth
    Last edited by tsunade; 09-03-2018 at 11:51 AM.

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