Manila Diocess is the richest in the world

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Those who are against the Catholic church should pull out their children from Catholic schools and transfer to government school - public schools. Parents who clapped and continue to support Duterte when he called God stupid and SOB should not be hypocrites by having their kids in Christian schools.

Also, this is one way of hurting the so-called priests and nuns who run these schools and universities aside from complaining of high tuitions.





I am a Christian Filipino. My president was Duterte before he called God stupid and SOB.

You can also choose to transfer to another country. Since you are now against the President, it would be hypocritical of you to stay and live her.

Also, this is one way of hurting the President since there will be one less person paying taxes.

I find this solution as ineffective. Most of the good institutions are Catholic-inclined schools and parents, regardless of their religion, would want to give the best education to their kids. Denying them of that just because they support the President in general is just plain.... for lack of better term, idiotic.

[RayGunz]

Nganong magpataka na man lang gyud na ang mga pari ug pang-biga?
Nakuwangan na ila sa serbisyo sa mga madre?

Dia mi kura paroko , wala daw misa kay namista ug nang-disco sa pikas lungsod.
Sus, ang mga kuyog kay mga junior high schoolers sa catholic school.

Pastilan, Hilig gyud ning mga pari, ug sariwang bulaklak, may hugas man o wala.

[battouter]

LOL, hatag pa mo.

Mao nay ampay sa simbahan. Basta daghan pobre boom kaayo ila negosyo.

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Apples and Oranges. With private owned entities you have no sway on how they do things. Lahi ni sa government kay part sa imo role and rights as a citizen to criticize, protest and vote for a change. Your analogy is poorly constructed.

No wonder China Bank has a employee union who has the right to criticize, protest and make a change. That is what the PTA is for, unless you do not want that role and right to criticize and voice out your opinion for a better school.

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You are just cherrypicking, most private entities dont have employee unions, and i never heard of a private university having parents union whos is allowed to sway their policies. If someone dont like seeing a priest riding jaguar car, good luck being heard by the board of trustees.

And then you brush it off by saying most private entities do not have employee unions. Just because there is no organized body, does not mean that you have no right to criticize and voice out for a change.

Yes, you have never heard. Because it is in our nature to just bow down right away. Just like how we bow down that we need to pay for the Sacrament of Baptism for us to be freed from the original sin. Just like it should be your right to call them out on why they are practicing what they preach.

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Baptism frees Catholics from original sin. It’s not the fee or money for the administrative processes. This is similar to the fees when we transact with the government - like when you apply for LTOP and PTC. The money is for the paper works or what is commonly called red tape. It’s not the money that allows one to carry a gun but the license. Of course, it will set you back several pesos considering it’s not free.

You know what, your president has this propensity to question Christian edicts and even went as far as calling God stupid and SOB. It would be a bragging accomplishment if he will decree all processing fees for baptism, marriage, funerals, etc. are now free. No, it will not usurp the inviolability of separation of church and state doctrine considering he will cover the fees from his pocket or from government sources.

Also, why would anyone question the collection done in every Holy Mass? Do they know that this is voluntary? I have not heard of anyone prosecuted for not giving. Try this similar stunt with the government and you will be prosecuted for evading tax payment.

It seems all issues hurled against the Catholic Church have something to do with money. In a matter of time, it will look like a quarrel among thieves between Duterte and his minions against the clerics on the other side.

I am a Filipino and a Christian. My president was Duterte before he called God stupid and SOB.

The use of the government paperworks is your license to practice such services. Such as Driver's License to drive. You do not need to have baptism to be able to have a relationship with God. You have to be baptized to be considered as a Catholic. But you have to pay a fee. If you do not, you are not free from the Original Sin, thus, cannot be considered a Catholic. Isn't there something wrong with that picture? This is the same with other Sacraments that mostly require a fee. Why do we need to pay for us to be closer to God spiritually just because our Philippine Catholic Church says so?

I do not question the collection done. However, I do question why there are two. One is before communion and another is before the end of the mass. They claim it is for maintenance of the church but see no improvements or maintenance done. Old, uncleaned electric fans, decades old chairs and etc.

This is about where our money went. We provide donations voluntarily, since we want to help the Catholic Community for they say they have no "income". However, most see less improvement on the facilities and etc but more on the stocks of the Philippine Catholic Church,a lot of luxury items and a few kids for pleasure.

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Criticism is useless because most private entities are NOT oblige to listen. Want a private university to have a 'No luxury cars for priest policy'? I say goodluck. With government, the public officials answers to the people and have the obligation to listen. If they wont, then see ya later next election, change CAN happen.. Again apples and oranges.


If you know of a private university with recognized parents union that have a representation at the board of trustees then be my guess show it.
Its in our nature to bow down right away? where did you get that? lol

You are already are doing it. Bowing down to the priests for whatever they say is the word of God. That includes not calling them out if they have luxury cars. Or if they say you need to pay to be absolved for your Original Sin.

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Slapping me with all these false accusations you made here, i see you are a troll.

And then, the logic goes out of the window. I guess there is no point in further discussing further.

[kit_cebu]

OT: i remember a priest from far south cebu province asking for donations from san pedro calungsod chapel church goers for his big church/shrine project in their area...needing millions of pesos.. nya ang nakulikta in 1 day from 3 masses i think, kay around 200k na.. dalia sa kwarta ah...hehe..

naa diha manimba ang mga dagkog sala...mga nindot kaayog sakyanan mga sagol illegal tingali anha pa.hugas sa ilang ispiritu...lol
unsa nalang kaha ang Sto.Niño ug Redemptorist...

SO, if the Catholic has billions of pesos, nganong mangayo pa mn ug donation para patukod sa simbahan na naa mn diay dakong kwarta sa bangko?
maong masaway ta sa laing relihiyon kay tungod aning money talks... projects sa mga pari...etc..

ang dakong bahin, gi-remit naman sa CBCP/hawod sa simbahan...so, lahi pod ang ila...and di man pod to hilabtan ang mga naka-invest sa BPI/stock market/mining shares kay ang interest ray gipangkuha...

so, ang solution ana kay "second collection"...lol

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“... baptism is not needed to have a relationship with God...”

Hopefully, your daughter if you have one will not have a long relationship with a man without marriage. If you do not know, marriage, like baptism, is one of the seven sacraments. And if you want to by pass all seven, don’t call a priest for your dearly beloved nearing death. The last rites, extreme unction, is also one of the seven sacraments like baptism.

Sorry, but sometimes we have to be blunt to drive certain points that are either not easily understood or simply evaded.

I am Filipino and a Christian. My president was Duterte before he called God stupid and SOB.

Wait, I don't remember making that statement.

Denomination (in order of decreasing divorce rate)
% who have been divorced

Non-denominational ** 34%
Baptists 29%
Mainline Protestants 25%
Mormons 24%
Catholics 21%
Lutherans 21%

U.S. divorce rates: for various faith groups, age groups and geographical areas

Too bad, statistics say that marriage is not an assurance of a long relationship with a partner. A little research would help.

Unfortunately, you simply resort to extreme measures just to avoid creating a good rebuttal. Let me ask you this, so all those who were not baptized in the catholic way or never been baptized at all not welcome in God's paradise. You are so sure that baptism is required to have a relationship with God. So, please do tell me what would happen to them.

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Long before Christianity and RC baptism was born, humans already have the connections or relationship to their God or gods.