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    Unsa naman tawon balita ani oe?

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    ok ra ni basta wa lang mamaligya or mugamit og drugs...

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    ok ra ni basta wa lang mamaligya or mugamit og drugs...
    ok ra na nimo ang kwarta sa tanan tao gikan sa tanan klasing buhis, maabot lang sa pila ka tao nga ato pa gyud gisweldohan para mao untay moatiman nato?

    ang kanang imong drugs2 pwedi raman ka mobalibad ana noh? sa buhis makabalibad ka? ultimo candy tag piso naay VAT? samot inig maabot nakag capital gains tax kaingon gyud kag, WOW! business is booming unya padung ra sa mga buaya?

    paita gyud sa mga tao bahin aning "drugs". Gamay ray nahibaw nga kung mo-inum silag kapi/coke, beer, or manigarilyo, nag drugs nana sila. para sa kasagaran kay lagi feel kaayo nila limpyo kaayo sila kay wala sila kahibaw unsa nanang mga drugs naa sa ilang lawas, kung nag gamit ug drugs patyon na dayon kunohay. pero ang mga kawatan sa goberno nga kada adlaw nangawat nila, ok ra kaayo palambo-on.

    check nya ni ninyo kung naa moy panahon para pud mapun-an nato atong nahibaw-an bahin aning drugs2 kay simbako ang sunod himo-on illegal ang pag gamit ug cellphone, aw hurot ning tao sa atong nasud bah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeMing View Post
    ok ra na nimo ang kwarta sa tanan tao gikan sa tanan klasing buhis, maabot lang sa pila ka tao nga ato pa gyud gisweldohan para mao untay moatiman nato?

    ang kanang imong drugs2 pwedi raman ka mobalibad ana noh? sa buhis makabalibad ka? ultimo candy tag piso naay VAT? samot inig maabot nakag capital gains tax kaingon gyud kag, WOW! business is booming unya padung ra sa mga buaya?

    paita gyud sa mga tao bahin aning "drugs". Gamay ray nahibaw nga kung mo-inum silag kapi/coke, beer, or manigarilyo, nag drugs nana sila. para sa kasagaran kay lagi feel kaayo nila limpyo kaayo sila kay wala sila kahibaw unsa nanang mga drugs naa sa ilang lawas, kung nag gamit ug drugs patyon na dayon kunohay. pero ang mga kawatan sa goberno nga kada adlaw nangawat nila, ok ra kaayo palambo-on.

    check nya ni ninyo kung naa moy panahon para pud mapun-an nato atong nahibaw-an bahin aning drugs2 kay simbako ang sunod himo-on illegal ang pag gamit ug cellphone, aw hurot ning tao sa atong nasud bah.


    Ang drugs2x bro ang pasabot ana is ang ginadili nga drugs, Shabu, Marijuana, Cocaine, kanang mga drugs nga naa sa Comprehensive Drugs Act of 2002, RA 9165.

    3) Imprisonment of twelve (12) years and one (1) day to twenty(20) years and a fine ranging from Three hundred thousand pesos(P300,000.00) to Four hundred thousand pesos (P400,000.00), if thequantities of dangerous drugs are less than five (5) grams of opium,morphine, heroin, cocaine or cocaine hydrochloride, marijuana resin ormarijuana resin oil, methamphetamine hydrochloride or “shabu”, or otherdangerous drugs such as, but not limited to, MDMA or “ecstasy”,PMA, TMA, LSD, GHB, and those similarly designed or newlyintroduced drugs and their derivatives, without having any therapeuticvalue or if the quantity possessed is far beyond therapeuticrequirements; or less than three hundred (300) grams of marijuana.
    Kani nga balaud...

    http://pdea.gov.ph/images/Laws/RA9165.pdf

    Towards the end anang PDF naa didto ang tanan lista sa drugs nga gibawal.
    It just so happens nga kani ang gi initan ug maayo karon, kay mao man ang nakabutang sa plataporma ug usa sa mga saad sa karon nga admin sa panahon sa ting election.

    Samot ka init kay ang involved ani has all the means and all the intentions and the advantage if this program were to fail.

    Involved are no ordinary people in this illegal drugs, apil na gud ang mga mayor, judges, local and national politicians, and dili nato kalimtan ang mga drug lords who has all the money in the world and all the intentions of stopping this so they can go back to their glory days.

    According sa inquirer, it is a 55.5 billion peso industry.
    The illicit drug trade in the country is a P55.5-billion industry that has victimized around 5 million drug users nationwide, the Dangerous Drugs Board (DDB) told lawmakers on Wednesday.
    This is a lucrative industry and the only thing preventing companies investing in it is because it is illegal.
    The people who stands to lose the most "in terms of money" if ever this industry is zeroed on in are those in the drug trade, who has all the means necessary to destroy a relatively aging President.

    Now, if people were to lose interest in this and it's only the President who pursues this, then we are at a loss, to these cartels, and we are going obviously in the wrong direction.

    I for one would never want my children to even try using these illegal drugs.

    Now if we say nga ibutang natog duwa-duwa lang ning ilaha sa pagdakop2x kunuhay sa mga drug personalities.
    I would have to beg to defer, daghan nang namatay as proof to the tenacity and the unrelenting pursuit para ma limpyo ning illegal drugs. I compare ni nato last administration, murag kadto tingale ang way paki-alam when i comes to preventing illegal drugs.

    Kay kung wala pa ang war on drugs, wala unta ka kahibalo ug unsa na diay ka grabi ang drug situation diri sa ato-a.
    And if we say nga pwede rana malikayan, I don't think ingon ana ka sayon.

    And if ingon ana pud ang atong thinking, we are no different from what the previous admin had done. Basically feed us to the dogs, and let us fend for ourselves. Kung ingon ana naman lang gani diay, nga pwede ra malikayan nato, dili nalang ta mag himo ug laws against ana. Tanggalon nalang nato ang PDEA kay anyway, let's leave the people to fend for themselves lang. Kay kaya raman nila malikayan ng butanga.

    The same gud anang manigarilyo, pwede man ka dili mo palit, pero if dili ka mopalit, mapagan gihapon ka kay ang aso sa manigaril-yoay tua man diretso nimo tanan.

    Unya mo ingon na pud kang, pwede raman likayan ang aso.. Yes pwede, but pwede raman pud himuon nag balaud in such a way nga dili ang majority ang mapagan anang ilang aso.

    That way, people will feel nga naay higher powers like the government who are looking after their well-being and of course sa well-being adtong mga naghuna-huna pa nga mo sugod ug sigarilyo.

    When it comes to drug use. Sa akong mga barkada ug mga kababata sa una, 90% sa ilaha ang nakagamit na ug drugs. Ingon ana ka lala ang problema, it just so happens nga wala gi abuse sa uban, for several other reasons, money, hadlok mogamit, or maybe just maybe dili lang gyud gusto mag apil2x ana.

    Pero more than I would say 50% sa ilaha abused it and I personally observed had lived a miserable life, of thief, family problems, trouble with the law, troubles sa school and etc.
    Maong if that were the case, I for one would want this drugs trade suppressed if not eliminated.

    And besides, if drugs were the only thing focused on these administration, why do we have billions upon billions of our budget going towards the Build, Build, Build government program.

    Mao lang gyud ni ang War on Drugs ang gifocus sa media ug mga kontra partido kay mao man ni ang dali mo appeal to the emotions sa kadaghanan.

    If these media and these LP opposition were to focus on trying to destroy this Build, Build, Build program sa government, they would know that they wouldn't stand a chance of demolishing it.

    Maong if one is frustrated with this admin, we should never forget how inutile the previous admin is.
    Left and right ang corruption, wala man lang gani gipangtanggal or gipa answer ang mga tawo nga involved sa corruption.

    But anyway, we are beyond discussion with regards to Andy Bautista.

    But I'd still would like to know were those millions of money came from, kay if it came from taxpayer's money. Basin magamit to nato pang puno sa build,build,build program or pangbayad sa tuition sa free tertiary education.
    Last edited by firestarter; 09-07-2017 at 11:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firestarter View Post
    Ang drugs2x bro ang pasabot ana is ang ginadili nga drugs, Shabu, Marijuana, Cocaine, kanang mga drugs nga naa sa Comprehensive Drugs Act of 2002, RA 9165.



    Kani nga balaud...

    http://pdea.gov.ph/images/Laws/RA9165.pdf

    Towards the end anang PDF naa didto ang tanan lista sa drugs nga gibawal.
    It just so happens nga kani ang gi initan ug maayo karon, kay mao man ang nakabutang sa plataporma ug usa sa mga saad sa karon nga admin sa panahon sa ting election.

    Samot ka init kay ang involved ani has all the means and all the intentions and the advantage if this program were to fail.

    Involved are no ordinary people in this illegal drugs, apil na gud ang mga mayor, judges, local and national politicians, and dili nato kalimtan ang mga drug lords who has all the money in the world and all the intentions of stopping this so they can go back to their glory days.

    According sa inquirer, it is a 55.5 billion peso industry.


    This is a lucrative industry and the only thing preventing companies investing in it is because it is illegal.
    The people who stands to lose the most "in terms of money" if ever this industry is zeroed on in are those in the drug trade, who has all the means necessary to destroy a relatively aging President.

    Now, if people were to lose interest in this and it's only the President who pursues this, then we are at a loss, to these cartels, and we are going obviously in the wrong direction.

    I for one would never want my children to even try using these illegal drugs.

    Now if we say nga ibutang natog duwa-duwa lang ning ilaha sa pagdakop2x kunuhay sa mga drug personalities.
    I would have to beg to defer, daghan nang namatay as proof to the tenacity and the unrelenting pursuit para ma limpyo ning illegal drugs. I compare ni nato last administration, murag kadto tingale ang way paki-alam when i comes to preventing illegal drugs.

    Kay kung wala pa ang war on drugs, wala unta ka kahibalo ug unsa na diay ka grabi ang drug situation diri sa ato-a.
    And if we say nga pwede rana malikayan, I don't think ingon ana ka sayon.

    And if ingon ana pud ang atong thinking, we are no different from what the previous admin had done. Basically feed us to the dogs, and let us fend for ourselves. Kung ingon ana naman lang gani diay, nga pwede ra malikayan nato, dili nalang ta mag himo ug laws against ana. Tanggalon nalang nato ang PDEA kay anyway, let's leave the people to fend for themselves lang. Kay kaya raman nila malikayan ng butanga.

    The same gud anang manigarilyo, pwede man ka dili mo palit, pero if dili ka mopalit, mapagan gihapon ka kay ang aso sa manigaril-yoay tua man diretso nimo tanan.

    Unya mo ingon na pud kang, pwede raman likayan ang aso.. Yes pwede, but pwede raman pud himuon nag balaud in such a way nga dili ang majority ang mapagan anang ilang aso.

    That way, people will feel nga naay higher powers like the government who are looking after their well-being and of course sa well-being adtong mga naghuna-huna pa nga mo sugod ug sigarilyo.

    When it comes to drug use. Sa akong mga barkada ug mga kababata sa una, 90% sa ilaha ang nakagamit na ug drugs. Ingon ana ka lala ang problema, it just so happens nga wala gi abuse sa uban, for several other reasons, money, hadlok mogamit, or maybe just maybe dili lang gyud gusto mag apil2x ana.

    Pero more than I would say 50% sa ilaha abused it and I personally observed had lived a miserable life, of thief, family problems, trouble with the law, troubles sa school and etc.
    Maong if that were the case, I for one would want this drugs trade suppressed if not eliminated.

    And besides, if drugs were the only thing focused on these administration, why do we have billions upon billions of our budget going towards the Build, Build, Build government program.

    Mao lang gyud ni ang War on Drugs ang gifocus sa media ug mga kontra partido kay mao man ni ang dali mo appeal to the emotions sa kadaghanan.

    If these media and these LP opposition were to focus on trying to destroy this Build, Build, Build program sa government, they would know that they wouldn't stand a chance of demolishing it.

    Maong if one is frustrated with this admin, we should never forget how inutile the previous admin is.
    Left and right ang corruption, wala man lang gani gipangtanggal or gipa answer ang mga tawo nga involved sa corruption.

    But anyway, we are beyond discussion with regards to Andy Bautista.

    But I'd still would like to know were those millions of money came from, kay if it came from taxpayer's money. Basin magamit to nato pang puno sa build,build,build program or pangbayad sa tuition sa free tertiary education.
    least likely ang pagsabot sa kasagaran tao parihas nimo when it comes to drugs - the legality of it. Most people think of drugs think of its affects which is addiction not knowing that addiction can come from the most common thing they take in these days (without thinking they are actually drugs but deemed legal just like alcohol).

    I am all for fixing the addiction problem but not by treating it as a criminal issue unless of course if the drugged person/suspect is doing something criminal (yet another bias for most people in our country, basta naay criminal, awa ang mga comments sa mga tao karun diba ingnun dayon "drugs pa more"). Although it is not mutually exclusive, it also doesn't always follow that a drugged person does criminal acts and vice versa.

    "When it comes to drug use. Sa akong mga barkada ug mga kababata sa una, 90% sa ilaha ang nakagamit na ug drugs. Ingon ana ka lala ang problema, it just so happens nga wala gi abuse sa uban, for several other reasons, money, hadlok mogamit, or maybe just maybe dili lang gyud gusto mag apil2x ana.

    Pero more than I would say 50% sa ilaha abused it and I personally observed had lived a miserable life, of thief, family problems, trouble with the law, troubles sa school and etc.
    Maong if that were the case, I for one would want this drugs trade suppressed if not eliminated. "

    >>> As what I've said and you agreed, pwedi ra malikayan. Unlike TAXES. The same taxes that the subject of this thread has probably amassed for his own good.

    Unfortunatley, even God above gave us humans the FREEDOM to do the bad or the good. And of course, in a democratic country, we still have the choice to do the same good or bad.

    "Involved are no ordinary people in this illegal drugs, apil na gud ang mga mayor, judges, local and national politicians, and dili nato kalimtan ang mga drug lords who has all the money in the world and all the intentions of stopping this so they can go back to their glory days. "

    >>> This is needless to say that's the reason why besides prostitution, the drug trade will always be there no matter what where you are. Unless of course your a city state like Singapore (pakpak dayon tong mga tao nga cgeg ingon "nabuhat man gani sa singapore kita naba"). Keyword here is CITY STATE. Tan-awa intawn ninyo unsa kagamay ang land area anang singapore e-compara na nato maski sa land area lang sa CEBU ISLAND para sad makita nato unsa kalahi-an ani nila. Atong mahal nga presidenti gani wala man gani ka eliminate sa drugs sa DAVAO lang sa tibo-ok nasud naba kaha nga 7,000+ islands?

    "And if ingon ana pud ang atong thinking, we are no different from what the previous admin had done. Basically feed us to the dogs, and let us fend for ourselves. Kung ingon ana naman lang gani diay, nga pwede ra malikayan nato, dili nalang ta mag himo ug laws against ana. Tanggalon nalang nato ang PDEA kay anyway, let's leave the people to fend for themselves lang. Kay kaya raman nila malikayan ng butanga. "

    >>> Sakto man kaayo ng naa natay laws and proper departments to take care of this problem and taking care of this problem is a huge plus to our country but unfortunately, the HOW is just not the right way.

    Killing everyone on drugs will guaranty only one thing, more collateral damage especially given how many of our police officers don't have the right dignity and morality to play god civilians. Pila ra gud tawn sweldo ug training ani nila. Ang judges gani nga nagpractice sa law for at least 20 years maglisud man gani decide ug death penalty kani na no-on atong mga police.

    Unya moana pud ta gamay raman ang collateral damage, ang mga gipang murder sa mga police nga mga suspects, etc. O gamay ra, pero nagto-o kaha ta nga kung walay moreklamo ani dili ni managhan? Think about it, these cases are only the ones that have reached the news unsa nalang kaha tong uban nga walay ikatingog?

    Kung naa palay body cams and required na by law ang tanan police operations to have video evidence, mahilom raman unta ni tanan reklamo ba kay maprotectionan man ang mga police sa ilang operations at the same time, ma protectionan pud ang mga suspects/civilians kaysa karun nga salig lang ta sa report sa police nga naay uban klaro kaayong dili gyud mao.

    Anyhow, to cut this short (maski taas na kaayo hahaa), my comment was for slakker who said "ok ra ni basta wa lang mamaligya or mugamit og drugs...". Kung kitang tanan ok ra ta kawatan taga segondo sa mga tao nga atong gibayran para unta moserbisyo nato, good luck pilipines nalang!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeMing View Post
    least likely ang pagsabot sa kasagaran tao parihas nimo when it comes to drugs - the legality of it. Most people think of drugs think of its affects which is addiction not knowing that addiction can come from the most common thing they take in these days (without thinking they are actually drugs but deemed legal just like alcohol).

    I am all for fixing the addiction problem but not by treating it as a criminal issue unless of course if the drugged person/suspect is doing something criminal (yet another bias for most people in our country, basta naay criminal, awa ang mga comments sa mga tao karun diba ingnun dayon "drugs pa more"). Although it is not mutually exclusive, it also doesn't always follow that a drugged person does criminal acts and vice versa.

    "When it comes to drug use. Sa akong mga barkada ug mga kababata sa una, 90% sa ilaha ang nakagamit na ug drugs. Ingon ana ka lala ang problema, it just so happens nga wala gi abuse sa uban, for several other reasons, money, hadlok mogamit, or maybe just maybe dili lang gyud gusto mag apil2x ana.

    Pero more than I would say 50% sa ilaha abused it and I personally observed had lived a miserable life, of thief, family problems, trouble with the law, troubles sa school and etc.
    Maong if that were the case, I for one would want this drugs trade suppressed if not eliminated. "

    >>> As what I've said and you agreed, pwedi ra malikayan. Unlike TAXES. The same taxes that the subject of this thread has probably amassed for his own good.

    Unfortunatley, even God above gave us humans the FREEDOM to do the bad or the good. And of course, in a democratic country, we still have the choice to do the same good or bad.

    "Involved are no ordinary people in this illegal drugs, apil na gud ang mga mayor, judges, local and national politicians, and dili nato kalimtan ang mga drug lords who has all the money in the world and all the intentions of stopping this so they can go back to their glory days. "

    >>> This is needless to say that's the reason why besides prostitution, the drug trade will always be there no matter what where you are. Unless of course your a city state like Singapore (pakpak dayon tong mga tao nga cgeg ingon "nabuhat man gani sa singapore kita naba"). Keyword here is CITY STATE. Tan-awa intawn ninyo unsa kagamay ang land area anang singapore e-compara na nato maski sa land area lang sa CEBU ISLAND para sad makita nato unsa kalahi-an ani nila. Atong mahal nga presidenti gani wala man gani ka eliminate sa drugs sa DAVAO lang sa tibo-ok nasud naba kaha nga 7,000+ islands?

    "And if ingon ana pud ang atong thinking, we are no different from what the previous admin had done. Basically feed us to the dogs, and let us fend for ourselves. Kung ingon ana naman lang gani diay, nga pwede ra malikayan nato, dili nalang ta mag himo ug laws against ana. Tanggalon nalang nato ang PDEA kay anyway, let's leave the people to fend for themselves lang. Kay kaya raman nila malikayan ng butanga. "

    >>> Sakto man kaayo ng naa natay laws and proper departments to take care of this problem and taking care of this problem is a huge plus to our country but unfortunately, the HOW is just not the right way.

    Killing everyone on drugs will guaranty only one thing, more collateral damage especially given how many of our police officers don't have the right dignity and morality to play god civilians. Pila ra gud tawn sweldo ug training ani nila. Ang judges gani nga nagpractice sa law for at least 20 years maglisud man gani decide ug death penalty kani na no-on atong mga police.

    Unya moana pud ta gamay raman ang collateral damage, ang mga gipang murder sa mga police nga mga suspects, etc. O gamay ra, pero nagto-o kaha ta nga kung walay moreklamo ani dili ni managhan? Think about it, these cases are only the ones that have reached the news unsa nalang kaha tong uban nga walay ikatingog?

    Kung naa palay body cams and required na by law ang tanan police operations to have video evidence, mahilom raman unta ni tanan reklamo ba kay maprotectionan man ang mga police sa ilang operations at the same time, ma protectionan pud ang mga suspects/civilians kaysa karun nga salig lang ta sa report sa police nga naay uban klaro kaayong dili gyud mao.

    Anyhow, to cut this short (maski taas na kaayo hahaa), my comment was for slakker who said "ok ra ni basta wa lang mamaligya or mugamit og drugs...". Kung kitang tanan ok ra ta kawatan taga segondo sa mga tao nga atong gibayran para unta moserbisyo nato, good luck pilipines nalang!

    >>> As what I've said and you agreed, pwedi ra malikayan. Unlike TAXES. The same taxes that the subject of this thread has probably amassed for his own good.

    Unfortunatley, even God above gave us humans the FREEDOM to do the bad or the good. And of course, in a democratic country, we still have the choice to do the same good or bad.

    ----- Actually I don't fully agree ana bro nga malikayan gyud ning paggamit ug drugs. It is because of things I've observed and experienced.

    Ang problema man gud ani is because this is addiction, then ang addiction pa gyud kay at the early stages of life. Naa gyud ko classmate sa una sa highschool I think 2nd year or 3 year mi adto ( imagine 13 or 14 years old pana).. grabi ka agresibo, gi dala mi niya ug panulis. Dili ka maka expect nga ingon ana ka determinado, and later I've found nga addict na diay siya, magdalo ug shabu sulod sa iskwelahan, gipakita pa niya nako.. Another classmate nako , duha sila kabuok again mga 2nd tingale mi ato, sige kaayog mga mata mosulod sa iskwelahan, nagtama diay, ipakita-kita gihapon nako. Mao pay mo ingon nga wala daw side effect ang shabu.

    Imagine at a tender age, ingon ana na sila ka aggressive and obviously misguided aning shabu2x nga buhat. Makahadlok gyud maminaw labi natong usa naka ka classmate nga determinado lage mo ingon nga manulis.. gi ahak nalang.. and I could never imagine karon na nga panahon nakarealize ko nga those people are in a well off family. Kay private school baya.. naay ika afford, kahuman makasulti ug panulis para lang ana nga butang.. Again these are my experiences personally, maong batok gyud ko aning illegal drugs.

    Maong I would say I wouldn't fully agree nga malikayan ni, because these are being offered to you at a young age, where your logic isn't fully mature to make mature decisions.

    >>> This is needless to say that's the reason why besides prostitution, the drug trade will always be there no matter what where you are. Unless of course your a city state like Singapore (pakpak dayon tong mga tao nga cgeg ingon "nabuhat man gani sa singapore kita naba"). Keyword here is CITY STATE. Tan-awa intawn ninyo unsa kagamay ang land area anang singapore e-compara na nato maski sa land area lang sa CEBU ISLAND para sad makita nato unsa kalahi-an ani nila. Atong mahal nga presidenti gani wala man gani ka eliminate sa drugs sa DAVAO lang sa tibo-ok nasud naba kaha nga 7,000+ islands?

    ----

    Well, it takes the everyone in the country to say NO to something for it to be eliminated, it takes few for it to be suppressed, and if no one is saying to it, obviously everyone agrees with it.

    There is this saying that "In order for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing". Maong if that few will not say no to it, magbaha gyud na, mao na ang nahitabo atong previous administration, nga hasta ang top ranking executives nag apil2x na. Consumed by their greed for material things. Hasta ang mga drug den, naa nay placard nga "shabu this way", and that is totally reprehensible.

    Maong even if it cannot be totally eliminated, at least it can be suppressed to the bare minimum, nga if ever ang mga hoyang nga mga high school students naa nay kahadlok or implanted na sa ilang huna-huna nga bawal na dili ta pwede mopalit ug mogamit ana. That is what deterrent is all about. Para madeter ang mga tawo mogamit or mopalit ana.


    >>> Sakto man kaayo ng naa natay laws and proper departments to take care of this problem and taking care of this problem is a huge plus to our country but unfortunately, the HOW is just not the right way.

    Killing everyone on drugs will guaranty only one thing, more collateral damage especially given how many of our police officers don't have the right dignity and morality to play god civilians. Pila ra gud tawn sweldo ug training ani nila. Ang judges gani nga nagpractice sa law for at least 20 years maglisud man gani decide ug death penalty kani na no-on atong mga police.

    Unya moana pud ta gamay raman ang collateral damage, ang mga gipang murder sa mga police nga mga suspects, etc. O gamay ra, pero nagto-o kaha ta nga kung walay moreklamo ani dili ni managhan? Think about it, these cases are only the ones that have reached the news unsa nalang kaha tong uban nga walay ikatingog?

    Kung naa palay body cams and required na by law ang tanan police operations to have video evidence, mahilom raman unta ni tanan reklamo ba kay maprotectionan man ang mga police sa ilang operations at the same time, ma protectionan pud ang mga suspects/civilians kaysa karun nga salig lang ta sa report sa police nga naay uban klaro kaayong dili gyud mao.

    Anyhow, to cut this short (maski taas na kaayo hahaa), my comment was for slakker who said "ok ra ni basta wa lang mamaligya or mugamit og drugs...". Kung kitang tanan ok ra ta kawatan taga segondo sa mga tao nga atong gibayran para unta moserbisyo nato, good luck pilipines nalang![/QUOTE]

    There goes another problem actually ani, there has been thousands of operations and only those few, probably fewer than a hundred that made it through the media, as sensationalized fueled obviously by opposing political parties.

    Even if you have a thousand positives, multiply it with 1 negative, and the whole equation becomes negative.

    1,000 x (-) 1 = ( - ) 1,000..

    With regards to body cam, maybe our dare senators can enact a law that requires body cams for each police.
    Come to think of it we have about 170,000 police officers. If we buy one each ibutang natong go pro .. kay hambugero baya tang mga pinoy (joke) that's 21,000 pesos.

    170,000 x 21,000 = 3,570,000,000 maybe about 3.5 Billion nga budget would do para sa mga police.

    Pero basin dili ra ibutang nato kada operation lang. Say 10,000 operations lang.

    21,000 x 10,000 = 210,000,000 that is about 210 million para sa PNP budget, pero basin naay pwede mo donate ana kay lisod kaayo na ipasar nga balaud tingale hehe..


    When it comes to the HOW, there is actually the law to guide them with regards to police operations. Maong let the law nalang punish them if ever dili masunod. There is the PAO, and there are 2 na ka kaso kadtong kang Kian ug kanang bag-o karon nga gitanaw na sa DOJ. Even the President is getting involved in it na.

    There has been a report that they are rethinking on how it should be executed, but the war on drugs should continue.

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    "Actually I don't fully agree ana bro nga malikayan gyud ning paggamit ug drugs. It is because of things I've observed and experienced."

    So you are saying gamit pud kag shabu or ako pud? Tanan nimo masugatan para nimo nag gamit nag illegal nga drugas?

    Asa naman to imo mga classmate gipang hisgotan? Asa nato sila karun? Nangamatay? Nangapriso? Ni-asinso ba kaha? Kay sa ako mga kaila, MIXED results man. Naay 4 patay na tungod sa drugs dili sa crimin. Pero naa pud 10 tarung naman ni asinso naman. Mao na akong ikasulti ani, DILI ta gino-o. DILI ta kahibaw unsay kaugmaon sa mga tao. TEENs palang gani ato ng i-judge iyang life? Kung mao na, aw dili unta si robert downey jr. ang nagdala sa iron man karun panahona.

    Kung kamo mga "tarung" kaayo mo pagka teens ninyo, ok ra kaayo na. Pero kanang mga badlungon sa inyong teens, tan-awa asa sila karun kay ako experience lang daan hangyo2 pa tawn ta para dili ma kick out sa don bosco, dakpan pa ta kay ramble2 sa mall pag 90s pero buyag, ang net worth nato layo ra tawn kaayo tong mga buotan kaayo sauna. Ang mga buotan no-on sauna mao nay karun nag sugod2 ug pabadlong tawn. Again, only GOD can decide the future dili si du30 and samot dili ang mga police ug samot dili sad ang mga criminal (adik or not).

    Teen pani nga time, daghan pa kaayo ni kabuang sa utok masulod, panghambog rato siya siguro ilaha. Pagdala2 nila ug shabu gi unsa nimo pagkahibaw tino-od to? Kung ingon kag adik imo mga uban classmate gi unsa nimo pagkasiguro ana sa ila lang mata? lisud na kung mao sad nay buhaton sa kapolisan nato. Again, hiskol daghan pa tawn kaayong gara2 ana sa mga bata kay lagi teens gud mao nay time mag experiment ta ug mangasayop para dili ta mauwahi ug adto na magpabadlong inig adult na kay mapriso na gyud ka ana gamay sipyat.

    Ang kaning illegal nga drugas accessible gyud ni siya kaayo samot sauna, karun arang2 nalang tawn pero naa gihapon. Kung ana ka nga hiskol bata pa kaayo apil2 ana, wala ka kakita naa pay mas daghan mas bata ba below 10 nag rugby na sa mga dalan?

    Wala man ni pili-on gyud. Naa gyud ni sa tao ug sa iyang infulensya mao dako kaayo intawn gamit ang pamilyang pinoy nga maoy dapat mobantay sa atong mga anak. This is a symptom not the problem in most cases.

    Sure ang mga abosadong police imbestigahon pero sugot ka imong anak patay na unya ang nipatay nga police gi imbestigar pa sa LAING POLICE? Laing department sa DOJ?

    Mahala pud ana imong equipment oi gopro man sad pwedi raman ta baratohon unya dili man sad tanan imo hatagan ug dili pud tanan mogamit inig operations lang. Kay wholesale man ni siya nga purchase, I'm sure PHP 3,000.00 per unit will go a long way given of course WALAY CORRUPTION sa deal.

    Agree ko the ward on drugs should continue pero mas mo agree ko kung mas daghan mamatay nga corrupt kaysa sa mga drug suspects kay mas apiktado man ko sa buhis taga adlaw dili man ko kaikyas. Hopefully lang unta, naay checks and balances maimplement sama sa body cams or video evidence on all oprations para mahilom nanang mga reklamo nga dili mosunod sa protocol ang mga enforcers.

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    na mingaw lage ni karon sa balita sa
    interesting raba kau ni unsaon niya defend
    di ma dali2 gyud ug defend ng billions
    hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeMing View Post
    "Actually I don't fully agree ana bro nga malikayan gyud ning paggamit ug drugs. It is because of things I've observed and experienced."

    So you are saying gamit pud kag shabu or ako pud? Tanan nimo masugatan para nimo nag gamit nag illegal nga drugas?

    Asa naman to imo mga classmate gipang hisgotan? Asa nato sila karun? Nangamatay? Nangapriso? Ni-asinso ba kaha? Kay sa ako mga kaila, MIXED results man. Naay 4 patay na tungod sa drugs dili sa crimin. Pero naa pud 10 tarung naman ni asinso naman. Mao na akong ikasulti ani, DILI ta gino-o. DILI ta kahibaw unsay kaugmaon sa mga tao. TEENs palang gani ato ng i-judge iyang life? Kung mao na, aw dili unta si robert downey jr. ang nagdala sa iron man karun panahona.

    Kung kamo mga "tarung" kaayo mo pagka teens ninyo, ok ra kaayo na. Pero kanang mga badlungon sa inyong teens, tan-awa asa sila karun kay ako experience lang daan hangyo2 pa tawn ta para dili ma kick out sa don bosco, dakpan pa ta kay ramble2 sa mall pag 90s pero buyag, ang net worth nato layo ra tawn kaayo tong mga buotan kaayo sauna. Ang mga buotan no-on sauna mao nay karun nag sugod2 ug pabadlong tawn. Again, only GOD can decide the future dili si du30 and samot dili ang mga police ug samot dili sad ang mga criminal (adik or not).

    Teen pani nga time, daghan pa kaayo ni kabuang sa utok masulod, panghambog rato siya siguro ilaha. Pagdala2 nila ug shabu gi unsa nimo pagkahibaw tino-od to? Kung ingon kag adik imo mga uban classmate gi unsa nimo pagkasiguro ana sa ila lang mata? lisud na kung mao sad nay buhaton sa kapolisan nato. Again, hiskol daghan pa tawn kaayong gara2 ana sa mga bata kay lagi teens gud mao nay time mag experiment ta ug mangasayop para dili ta mauwahi ug adto na magpabadlong inig adult na kay mapriso na gyud ka ana gamay sipyat.

    Ang kaning illegal nga drugas accessible gyud ni siya kaayo samot sauna, karun arang2 nalang tawn pero naa gihapon. Kung ana ka nga hiskol bata pa kaayo apil2 ana, wala ka kakita naa pay mas daghan mas bata ba below 10 nag rugby na sa mga dalan?

    Wala man ni pili-on gyud. Naa gyud ni sa tao ug sa iyang infulensya mao dako kaayo intawn gamit ang pamilyang pinoy nga maoy dapat mobantay sa atong mga anak. This is a symptom not the problem in most cases.

    Sure ang mga abosadong police imbestigahon pero sugot ka imong anak patay na unya ang nipatay nga police gi imbestigar pa sa LAING POLICE? Laing department sa DOJ?

    Mahala pud ana imong equipment oi gopro man sad pwedi raman ta baratohon unya dili man sad tanan imo hatagan ug dili pud tanan mogamit inig operations lang. Kay wholesale man ni siya nga purchase, I'm sure PHP 3,000.00 per unit will go a long way given of course WALAY CORRUPTION sa deal.

    Agree ko the ward on drugs should continue pero mas mo agree ko kung mas daghan mamatay nga corrupt kaysa sa mga drug suspects kay mas apiktado man ko sa buhis taga adlaw dili man ko kaikyas. Hopefully lang unta, naay checks and balances maimplement sama sa body cams or video evidence on all oprations para mahilom nanang mga reklamo nga dili mosunod sa protocol ang mga enforcers.
    Ani bro, dili tingale maayo nga i compare nato ang duha ka dautan?

    Illegal drugs ug Corrupt politicians nangawat ug tax? One is left with nothing to choose as both are reprehensible.

    hahaha, dili nalang ko makiglalis regarding atong mga tawhana bro if shabu ba to ang ilang gidala or unsa. Pero ani nalang bro.
    All of them confessed to me personally that they are using drugs.
    And that one guy who is a dear classmate maoy mismo nag ingon nanala nako nga manulis mi. Lahi ang gara2x bro lahi pud ang serious, but anyway ako-a man to, lisod kaayo patuohon ang tawo nga wala didto sa akto.

    Pero I think the court would believe me if I said they told me personally that they used drugs, kay tupad mi adto kauban pud mi tigkaon inig paniudto. He has no reason to lie to me.. but anyway lage I don't need to convince you.

    The way ang imong pag istorya is basically judging digong that he is actually telling the police to just indiscriminately take a life.
    And you are telling me that I'm judging people when in fact, you are the one judging digong.

    There is this common biblical notion bro that only God can take a life. However, we won't delve down to that because we are not talking about the laws of God here, we are talking about the laws of man.

    Maong ang atong discussan is if unsa ang balaud sa tawo gipadagan. You might be surprised nga although our laws emanates from divine laws, there are other things that we humans simply need to formulate laws para mo fit sa ato as human beings.


    If you want to continue talking about biblical laws, I can discuss it with you too, but not here in this topic.

    Actually these are the things that I've gathered from here,.

    1. You are inclined to or pro yellow.
    2. You don't agree with this war on drugs
    3. You dislike digong and probably didn't vote for him and voted for another yellow.
    4. you are against corrupt officials who steal our taxes
    5. You are rich

    ... I correct lang ko bro if naa koy sayop diha sa akong gi lista.

    Anyway, I like sensible discussions, and it opens up whole new way of thinking.

    Maybe I was just wrong in my political views, but right now I'm pretty much into believing the principles this administration's leader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeMing View Post
    "Actually I don't fully agree ana bro nga malikayan gyud ning paggamit ug drugs. It is because of things I've observed and experienced."

    So you are saying gamit pud kag shabu or ako pud? Tanan nimo masugatan para nimo nag gamit nag illegal nga drugas?

    Asa naman to imo mga classmate gipang hisgotan? Asa nato sila karun? Nangamatay? Nangapriso? Ni-asinso ba kaha? Kay sa ako mga kaila, MIXED results man. Naay 4 patay na tungod sa drugs dili sa crimin. Pero naa pud 10 tarung naman ni asinso naman. Mao na akong ikasulti ani, DILI ta gino-o. DILI ta kahibaw unsay kaugmaon sa mga tao. TEENs palang gani ato ng i-judge iyang life? Kung mao na, aw dili unta si robert downey jr. ang nagdala sa iron man karun panahona.

    Kung kamo mga "tarung" kaayo mo pagka teens ninyo, ok ra kaayo na. Pero kanang mga badlungon sa inyong teens, tan-awa asa sila karun kay ako experience lang daan hangyo2 pa tawn ta para dili ma kick out sa don bosco, dakpan pa ta kay ramble2 sa mall pag 90s pero buyag, ang net worth nato layo ra tawn kaayo tong mga buotan kaayo sauna. Ang mga buotan no-on sauna mao nay karun nag sugod2 ug pabadlong tawn. Again, only GOD can decide the future dili si du30 and samot dili ang mga police ug samot dili sad ang mga criminal (adik or not).

    Teen pani nga time, daghan pa kaayo ni kabuang sa utok masulod, panghambog rato siya siguro ilaha. Pagdala2 nila ug shabu gi unsa nimo pagkahibaw tino-od to? Kung ingon kag adik imo mga uban classmate gi unsa nimo pagkasiguro ana sa ila lang mata? lisud na kung mao sad nay buhaton sa kapolisan nato. Again, hiskol daghan pa tawn kaayong gara2 ana sa mga bata kay lagi teens gud mao nay time mag experiment ta ug mangasayop para dili ta mauwahi ug adto na magpabadlong inig adult na kay mapriso na gyud ka ana gamay sipyat.

    Ang kaning illegal nga drugas accessible gyud ni siya kaayo samot sauna, karun arang2 nalang tawn pero naa gihapon. Kung ana ka nga hiskol bata pa kaayo apil2 ana, wala ka kakita naa pay mas daghan mas bata ba below 10 nag rugby na sa mga dalan?

    Wala man ni pili-on gyud. Naa gyud ni sa tao ug sa iyang infulensya mao dako kaayo intawn gamit ang pamilyang pinoy nga maoy dapat mobantay sa atong mga anak. This is a symptom not the problem in most cases.

    Sure ang mga abosadong police imbestigahon pero sugot ka imong anak patay na unya ang nipatay nga police gi imbestigar pa sa LAING POLICE? Laing department sa DOJ?

    Mahala pud ana imong equipment oi gopro man sad pwedi raman ta baratohon unya dili man sad tanan imo hatagan ug dili pud tanan mogamit inig operations lang. Kay wholesale man ni siya nga purchase, I'm sure PHP 3,000.00 per unit will go a long way given of course WALAY CORRUPTION sa deal.

    Agree ko the ward on drugs should continue pero mas mo agree ko kung mas daghan mamatay nga corrupt kaysa sa mga drug suspects kay mas apiktado man ko sa buhis taga adlaw dili man ko kaikyas. Hopefully lang unta, naay checks and balances maimplement sama sa body cams or video evidence on all oprations para mahilom nanang mga reklamo nga dili mosunod sa protocol ang mga enforcers.
    Naa lang koy nalimtan bro,

    170,000 PNP officers x 3,000 price sa murag gopro = 510,000,000 that's 510 million .. If katunga lang ang palitan .

    85,000 x 3,000 = 255,000,000 that is 255 million, sige 1/4 lang ang palitan 42,500 x 3,000 = 127,500,000 that is still 127,500,000 pesos.

    I believe mo kisi-kisi na dayon ang mga politicians ani.. pero karon na release and approved naman ang budget, basin sa sunod tuig nani ma implement. For now mag agwanta lang sa ta sa media, basin pa diay ang media mo sugot nga sila ang mo front line didto during operations.

    Sige sige, say mag palit nalang silag 10,000 kabuok , that is still 30,000,000.. Basin ma kaon kaon nani nga figures.. Maintenance cost ani hasta ang system nga storan sa large volume of videos nga mosulod coming from these devices, magpalit na pud tag central server computers para didto i store tanan. Tagpila man kaha na karon. I hope dili na mo abot ug millions na pud..

    But I'm still pro on buying these body cams.

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