View Poll Results: uyon ba kamo sa mga bag-ong anti student policy sa USC?

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  • a) yes

    7 38.89%
  • b) no

    11 61.11%
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  1. #221

    Default Re: USC students protest!!!!!!!!


    You have the right to protest against the ID ... I believe it is unfair to ask for a 250 for a small piece of laminated cardboard. Unless of course if its a biometric ID, with embedded RFID chips ... then the cost wouldn't be enough.

    I also believe that the students should be consulted. The admin would present its reasons, and the students can present their reasons as well for not wearing those uniforms, or bati ba kaayo ang uniforms in a way demeaning na kaayo for the students. But like I said, even if they impose the uniform policy, wala gyud mahimo ang istudyante kun dili mo follow, unless of course if the uniform violates the individuals right to religion and decency (Like the case of a muslim student being made to wear a uniform with a cross and jesus imprinted on his shirt).

    I believe Mam Alo was wrong when she mentioned that. The real reason why one should wear uniform is to have a sense of identity and a strong feeling of belongingness to society. Its how we identify ourselves - like our flag, our national costume, etc. The University does this for a number of reasons - first students will have to be careful about how they behave when they are wearing uniforms because people can easily identify them and know what school they were from - people will identify you with your uniform. Another reason is standardization -


  2. #222

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    na.a daw chip sulod sa i.d pero dile man mo work ang swipe swipe, mo ground pah...

    like what i've said earlier there's nothing wrong with the uniform as long as there is a GENUINE CONSULTATION, before a policy could be implemented dapat mo agi pana sa students through the SSC. pero wala mana nahitabo. ma.oy naka apan. ang SAS raman cgeg implement og policy na.a gani to one time... na na.ay gi implement ang SAS na wala kibaw sila fr. rod og fr. punzalan...

    daghan kaayo lapses ang SAS office. mag kaso kaso withot na.ay representative sa SSC.

  3. #223

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    Quote Originally Posted by radiostar
    na.a daw chip sulod sa i.d pero dile man mo work ang swipe swipe, mo ground pah...

    like what i've said earlier there's nothing wrong with the uniform as long as there is a GENUINE CONSULTATION, before a policy could be implemented dapat mo agi pana sa students through the SSC. pero wala mana nahitabo. ma.oy naka apan. ang SAS raman cgeg implement og policy na.a gani to one time... na na.ay gi implement ang SAS na wala kibaw sila fr. rod og fr. punzalan...

    daghan kaayo lapses ang SAS office. mag kaso kaso withot na.ay representative sa SSC.
    sure ka aning imong gipanulti nga wala nay consultation before naimplement unsa na diay ka na year? do you know what year na siya naaprove?

  4. #224

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    Quote Originally Posted by junmar4
    sure ka aning imong gipanulti nga wala nay consultation before naimplement unsa na diay ka na year? do you know what year na siya naaprove?
    sure bitaw ko. dugay nana na debatehan early 1900's pa ata. pero na approve na pag 2004 or 2005. wala bitaw consultation pangutan.a mga students kung na.a bay consultation... pag mga febuary manto gi post diretso na dapat by this time mag uniform na ang mga 1st year. daghan gud na shocked ato.

    pangita.on pato nako ang mga position letters sa SSC ever since nawala ang tingog carolinian

    The University of San Carlos Supreme Student
    Council 2006-2007 (USC-SSC) is one with the
    Administration in our common vision of forging a
    Carolinian identity, a common identity that will link
    together all Carolinians with different backgrounds
    diverse orientations, varying circumstances in life,
    and with unique pursuits, to become a single
    Carolinian Community.

    Last March 7, 2006, the USC Administration
    imposed new policies such as the uniforms for
    male students, cross dressing, hair cuts, and the
    wearing of the University ID, in the hope of
    promoting the said Carolinian Identity.

    It is in the implementation of these policies that I,
    together with the Supreme Student Council 2006-
    2007, part with Administration.

    Last May 27, 2006, Father President Roderick
    Salazar Jr. SVD, together with his cabinet
    members, Father Teodoro Gapuz, SVD, Vice-
    President for Academic Affairs, Father Louie
    Punzalan, SVD, Vice-President for Administration,
    and Father Vicente Uy, SVD, Vice- President for
    Finance, held a meeting with us, the SSC Officers
    2006-2007. It is in this meeting that your SSC
    Officers negotiated for the suspension of the said
    policies until a university-wide referendum/survey is
    made, to gather and verify the real position and
    collective sentiments of the students regarding the
    school policies especially on the New Uniform.

    But after three hours of intense discussion, the
    School Administration denied our request for the
    suspension of the policies and even for the
    launching of a university wide referendum, because
    the policies are already implemented since they
    were deliberated for a whole academic year last
    year with the Supreme Student Council 2005-2006
    and other school administrators.

    Nonetheless, despite the cabinet’s decision, as
    the President of the Supreme Student Council
    2006-2007, I am against the implementation of
    these policies and will exhaust all means and
    forms for the “table of negotiation” to be opened
    again to review and once more discuss the merits
    (if there really are) and demerits of these policies.

    Once more I would like to reiterate the SSC 06-07
    position of the said school policies:

    ON THE UNIFORM POLICY
    The Supreme Student Council recognizes the fact,
    others failed to recognize, that "IDENTITY IS
    DERIVED FROM THE PERSON WEARING THAT
    DECENT PIECE OF CLOTH, AND NOT THE
    OTHER WAY AROUND." Our identity as
    individuals and as Carolinians goes beyond what
    we wear, and boils down to the very virtues that we
    posses. If we really want to develop our distinct
    and unique identity as Carolinians, we must base
    this identity to the virtues inculcated to us by our
    Carolinian Education, especially on our respect to
    human diversity.
    No other phrase best describes this virtue, than
    our University theme two years ago, "One Heart,
    Many Faces," our recognition of this unity in the
    midst of diversity. The Supreme Student Council,
    together with the Carolinian Students, believe that,
    instead of forcing us to wear uniforms, to create
    this so-called Carolinian identity, we ought to
    nurture our Carolinian virtues, such as excellence,
    integrity, of applying justly and honestly what we
    know, of seeking to learn what we do not know, of
    endeavoring to acquire what we do not have, of
    sharing what we have, and respect for the
    uniqueness of the individual creation.
    THE NO LONG HAIR POLICY
    The TC (Talamban Campus) culture, known for
    long hair and dread locks, has been there ever
    since the campus was established. It has been the
    trademark of the Engineering, Architecture, and
    Fine Arts students in the longest time. And they
    have proven it time and again that long hair has no
    correlation to academic excellence. They have
    produced outstanding graduates, board
    topnotchers at that, even with long hair and
    dreadlocks

    Cliché as it may seem, why fix something that
    isn't broken? One reason the administration gave
    on the implementation of the said policy was the
    creation of a Carolinian identity. True as it is, that
    as an institution of higher learning we must project
    an image that would distinguish us from the rest,
    but why dwell on the physical aspect?

    To create a Carolinian identity would be an
    identity that focuses on academic excellence and
    cerebral development injected with Christian
    learning, not on how one looks physically. Having
    long hair is and will never be a hindrance in one's
    study and pursuit for knowledge. It is our inherent
    right of self expression that we Christians should
    respect and uphold.

    NO CROSS DRESSING POLICY
    The policy on cross dressing should be nullified for
    being vague. This policy did not make definite
    specifications, it merely mentions general
    classifications. Vagueness is dangerous; it is
    dangerous because it might be accused by the
    implementing body. There is a very high tendency
    that the implementing body would act arbitrarily,
    subjectively, and whimsically because of the
    absence of a clear cut or definite guideline/policy.

    We are not bible scholars, nor theologians,
    however, as what we're taught, we believe that the
    Religion of Christ does not and should not
    discriminate.

    Cross dressing would have been an issue if the
    person doing so, looks like, acts like, and thinks
    like straight men. However, there are people, who
    we can never tell exactly whether they are
    fortunate or not, who since their childhood, believe
    and feel they are women although they physically
    look like men. It is never their fault to be in such
    dilemma, and they nevertheless have the same
    right to express themselves just like any other
    human beings.

    Speaking on the issue of morality, some would
    say, as a Catholic it would be immoral for men to
    cross dress. However, we believe it should be
    viewed the other way around. Restricting gays to
    express themselves by wearing clothes they are
    comfortable with, is a form of discrimination. It
    does not only violate their human rights based on
    the laws of men, but also, it violates the basic
    Catholic teachings. These teachings would be that
    a Catholic should not discriminate, that a Catholic
    should accept his fellow men as what they are and
    not how he would want them to be, and finally, that
    a Catholic should not judge a man based on how
    he looks.

    With all of these said, I as the President of the
    Supreme Student Council, with all humility,
    request our policy makers to reason with us, and
    for them not to invoke their cloak of authority and
    avoid our “why” questions.

    Some school officials would say, that this is a
    dead issue since the policies are already
    implemented and majority of the students have
    bought uniforms already. And rekindling the issue
    would only be giving false hope to the students.

    But I say, FALSE HOPE, ITS NOT!

    For as long as there are students who clamor for
    the suspension of these policies, for as long as
    there are students who are willing to give their all
    to stop the policies, and for as long as the
    Supreme Student Council 2006-2007 is here, the
    light of hope will never cease.

    So I challenge every Carolinian to speak up and be
    one with the council in the fight against the said
    policies. Your active cooperation will fuel the
    Council to start the grand debate!


    daghan pako e post...

  5. #225

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    Quote Originally Posted by radiostar
    sure bitaw ko. dugay nana na debatehan early 1900's pa ata. pero na approve na pag 2004 or 2005. wala bitaw consultation pangutan.a mga students kung na.a bay consultation... pag mga febuary manto gi post diretso na dapat by this time mag uniform na ang mga 1st year. daghan gud na shocked ato.

    early 1900's jud?

  6. #226

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    Quote Originally Posted by junmar4
    early 1900's jud?
    yup time pato nila sir bisoy 1992 gud na president sa SSC si sir bisoy

  7. #227

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    Quote Originally Posted by radiostar
    yup time pato nila sir bisoy 1992 gud na president sa SSC si sir bisoy
    you were posting 1900's dude not 1990's... pls check before ka post.

  8. #228

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    Quote Originally Posted by junmar4
    you were posting 1900's dude not 1990's... pls check before ka post.
    ay sorry typo...

  9. #229

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    Quote Originally Posted by radiostar
    ON THE UNIFORM POLICY
    The Supreme Student Council recognizes the fact,
    others failed to recognize, that "IDENTITY IS
    DERIVED FROM THE PERSON WEARING THAT
    DECENT PIECE OF CLOTH, AND NOT THE
    OTHER WAY AROUND." Our identity as
    individuals and as Carolinians goes beyond what
    we wear, and boils down to the very virtues that we
    posses. If we really want to develop our distinct
    and unique identity as Carolinians, we must base
    this identity to the virtues inculcated to us by our
    Carolinian Education, especially on our respect to
    human diversity.
    No other phrase best describes this virtue, than
    our University theme two years ago, "One Heart,
    Many Faces," our recognition of this unity in the
    midst of diversity. The Supreme Student Council,
    together with the Carolinian Students, believe that,
    instead of forcing us to wear uniforms, to create
    this so-called Carolinian identity, we ought to
    nurture our Carolinian virtues, such as excellence,
    integrity, of applying justly and honestly what we
    know, of seeking to learn what we do not know, of
    endeavoring to acquire what we do not have, of
    sharing what we have, and respect for the
    uniqueness of the individual creation.
    I agree with "IDENTITY IS DERIVED FROM THE PERSON WEARING THAT DECENT PIECE OF CLOTH, AND NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND." - but the SSC failed to recognize that the uniform is the most identifiable indication of being a Carolinian. It is true that being a Carolinian goes beyond of what you wear - it is by the virtues and values he/she instill, but still the question remains - what is fundamentally wrong with wearing a uniform? With all the virtues and values the SSC mentioned - they missed one - the virtue of obedience.

  10. #230

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    Quote Originally Posted by kolz
    I agree with "IDENTITY IS DERIVED FROM THE PERSON WEARING THAT DECENT PIECE OF CLOTH, AND NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND." - but the SSC failed to recognize that the uniform is the most identifiable indication of being a Carolinian. It is true that being a Carolinian goes beyond of what you wear - it is by the virtues and values he/she instill, but still the question remains - what is fundamentally wrong with wearing a uniform? With all the virtues and values the SSC mentioned - they missed one - the virtue of obedience.
    i will say this again and again and again... there is nothing wrong with wearing the uniform if we were PROPERLY CONSULTED...

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