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  1. #11

    Default Re: Dehumanization in the BPO Industry.


    Quote Originally Posted by brian_d
    I do agree with you LytSlpr entrepreneurship is the way to go, however not everyone can be as lucky as you to have "family" money to start thier own internet cafes, construct building for dormitories (as per your post in another thread) so thier start into venturing into a business may not have such a grand and stellar start as you did. Some people are also very risk averse and would rather be employed, get a steady job even if that means fixed monthly income with not much room to grow.

    However for those who are willing to take the risk, entrepreneurship has its rewards way beyond that of being employed.

    it's not necessarily family money. you'll be surprised how the current administration supports long term loans with minimal interest for people who wants to venture into business. even commerical anf government banks offer such loans. you can loan in millions without collateral as long as you have a very good business plan.

    i currently have 4 friends who are starting their own BPO firms without shelling out a cent and they are doing good.

    all it takes actually is a lot of guts, approaching the right people and coming up with a good plan.

  2. #12

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    Correct, no collateral might be need assuming you have "family" name to boot. Mr. Juan de la Cruz even with a very sound business plan will not be granted a loan even at a measly P500,000 if he doesn't have the right connections.

    Am happy for you, you had it easy. I hope your business would do well. For the rest it might think more pondering to go into a business, though like I've mentioned the rewards can be very, very attractive.

  3. #13

    Default Re: Dehumanization in the BPO Industry.

    Quote Originally Posted by brian_d
    Correct, no collateral might be need assuming you have "family" name to boot. Mr. Juan de la Cruz even with a very sound business plan will not be granted a loan even at a measly P500,000 if he doesn't have the right connections.

    Am happy for you, you had it easy. I hope your business would do well. For the rest it might think more pondering to go into a business, though like I've mentioned the rewards can be very, very attractive.

    no connections needed for the loan. it is available to everybody especially if the loaned capital are for assets. it is a clean loan but it needs a good credit history/record though.

    some of my friends even started an off shore network security solutions service provider currently based here in Cebu even without travelling to the U.S. but only through email. ...and would you believe that the company iniitially got excited about the idea so they advised him to submit a feasibility study and a business plan after mailing it, the people from the U.S. flew in, checked out our country, the site and the human resource. they invested, then the rest is history...

    Pure Luck I guess... but we have heard a lot of success stories similar to this but if we are not resourceful enough or we are initially afraid then it is never going to happen.

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    so sad wala ko kaapil sa lalis, thanks for posting this article. naka-diskobre nuon ko sa istorya.net :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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    why hit on the bpo industry? daghan maestra gamay sweldo. they bring work home. mga nurses here get a measly salary and they have shifting schedules di ba.

    and not everyone has the traits to become an entrepreneur. the social benefit of entrepreneurship has been job creation, so if people get jobs in bpo's, i wont complain.

    the way i see it, a call center job can be satisfying to someone whose dreams get achieved through that job. i know one who was able to buy his car while being a call center agent. i also know some recent grads who take the job inorder to save money for other plans. i also know a few who are eyeing for promotions to higher positions where the pay is bigger.

    perhaps we should explore the issue with both pros and cons laid out on the table.

  6. #16

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velvett
    why hit on the bpo industry? daghan maestra gamay sweldo. they bring work home. mga nurses here get a measly salary and they have shifting schedules di ba.
    sir, i believe this is another concern. you may start a thread for this if you wish.

    just my 2 cents...

  7. #17

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    nice topic and the articles posted..

  8. #18

    Default Re: Dehumanization in the BPO Industry.

    Quote Originally Posted by LytSlpr
    sir, i believe this is another concern. you may start a thread for this if you wish.

    just my 2 cents...
    not open to discussion? again, im just asking why single out the BPO industry.


  9. #19

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velvett
    not open to discussion? again, im just asking why single out the BPO industry.
    it's open for discussion but not on these thread otherwise, we might as well include the plight of the farmers in mindanao and the prosties in junquera. all working class and sectors have their own problems and we are not singling out the BPO industry but this is a BPO thread. i hope you get my point.

  10. #20

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    Teachers, nurses, call center agents all belong to a same class, the working class. But each one, however, has its own specific conditions and fault lines that must be brought to light so that specific solutions can also be set.

    In the case of call center agents, their pay may not be as scrimping as teachers’ but occupational hazards and instability of tenure are definitely the dynamics not so present in classrooms. Same goes with the nurses in hospitals.

    We need to draw around this BPO thing a bit because aside it’s a new industry (with newer forms of exploitation), BPO workers lack organizations equivalent to Philippine Public School Teacher’s Association (PPSTA) or Philippine Nurses’ Association that could oversee their welfare.

    It is also necessary to expose the downsides and pitfalls because people especially undergrads tend to be sold on the quixotic remarks “dreams can be realized in call centers”. As the article pointed out “we seem to filter-out the bad things from the good ones”.

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