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  1. #16781

    Quote Originally Posted by kestrel89 View Post
    Before ta mo judge na bogo si Pnoy. Do we have the numbers to crunch para ma check nato kung binogo ba jud? Pero kung gi-approve ang hike then by the time na mo pension ko kay wala na SSS kay nabangkarote. Aw, sakto ra sad iyang desisyon.
    bradder, naay mga interesting numbers diri:

    Veto Message_Mandating a Two Thousand Peso across-the-board increase in the monthly pension with corresponding adjustment of the minimum monthly pension under SSS (1).pdf

  2. #16782
    Pinoys as usual are very good whiners.

    Let's do the math why 2k increase is dangerous for SSS sustainability. Let's compute the MINIMUM

    Minimum monthly pension = 1,200
    SSS current members = 31M
    Number of Pensioners = 2.1M

    SSS Annual Income = 31,000,000 X 120 X 12 = 44.6 Billion
    SSS Annual Payout = 2,100,000 X 1,200 X 12 = 30.2 Billion

    At the minimum, SSS gains around 14 Billion/Year.

    And now let's add 2k increase to the equation,

    Minimum monthly pension = 3,200
    SSS current members = 31M
    Number of Pensioners = 2.1M

    SSS Annual Income = 31,000,000 X 120 X 12 = 44.6 Billion
    SSS Annual Payout = 2,100,000 X 3,200 X 12 = 80.6 Billion

    At the minimum, SSS deficits around 35 Billion/Year. I don't know how much reserve ang naa sa SSS but can you sustain a yearly deficit of 35B? In the long run maybe 11 years ma bankrupt jud ang SSS.

    And please don't say nga ang uban mas dako ug contribution bla bla bla, DILI na lotto or swertres ang SSS nga mag base sa CHANCE.

    "Sunod sa uso ug pangutok ning mga Pinoy, kay trending man ang against aning veto, hala sunod2x pud.Diay shakoyy oh!
    Last edited by BetterPhilippines2015; 01-19-2016 at 11:13 PM.

  3. #16783
    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    naa na sad ka diha.


    pataka na sad ka ug storya diha. nganong na Constant man ang Value na 120 when in fact lahi2x ang contribution, depends on your salary range.

    New SSS Contribution Table 2016



    maghimu daw ta ug survey diri sa mga nag trabaho. palihug daw tan-aw sa inyong payslip if pila ang SSS deduction ..... kay naay tao diri nagpataka ra ug storya na uniform ug contribution na 120 per month ...
    LAWL. Sugod nasad ta ani dai @marius?

    Init lagi kaayo ka nako sa? ibog ka nako sa? b kiss ko b. Nabuhi akong tinaguan nga 900+ accounts da. Hunaa2x kuno pag ayo dai ug justificable ba ang pag mute nimo nako hehe. Naa jud kay HD nako sauna pa. Is this your way para magpatagad nako?

    Dai about sa topic, MINIMUM contribution ug MINIMUM PENSION ako gibasihan ana. Rethink sa ha before buga sa baba

    Go go ban me. Ayaw kauwaw. I ban nato si BetterPhilippines2015 kay 2016 nata ron.
    Last edited by olalalala; 01-20-2016 at 05:06 AM.

  4. #16784
    Quote Originally Posted by BetterPhilippines2015 View Post
    Pinoys as usual are very good whiners.

    Let's do the math why 2k increase is dangerous for SSS sustainability. Let's compute the MINIMUM

    Minimum monthly pension = 1,200
    SSS current members = 31M
    Number of Pensioners = 2.1M

    SSS Annual Income = 31,000,000 X 120 X 12 = 44.6 Billion
    SSS Annual Payout = 2,100,000 X 1,200 X 12 = 30.2 Billion

    At the minimum, SSS gains around 14 Billion/Year.

    And now let's add 2k increase to the equation,

    Minimum monthly pension = 3,200
    SSS current members = 31M
    Number of Pensioners = 2.1M

    SSS Annual Income = 31,000,000 X 120 X 12 = 44.6 Billion
    SSS Annual Payout = 2,100,000 X 3,200 X 12 = 80.6 Billion

    At the minimum, SSS deficits around 35 Billion/Year. I don't know how much reserve ang naa sa SSS but can you sustain a yearly deficit of 35B? In the long run maybe 11 years ma bankrupt jud ang SSS.

    And please don't say nga ang uban mas dako ug contribution bla bla bla, DILI na lotto or swertres ang SSS nga mag base sa CHANCE.

    "Sunod sa uso ug pangutok ning mga Pinoy, kay trending man ang against aning veto, hala sunod2x pud.Diay shakoyy oh!
    Murag gapaila ra ka nga di ka kamao mo compute ug SSS contribution. Here's the table that can help you:

    https://www.sss.gov.ph/sss/appmanage...ofcontribution

    Base ana, ang kung i based lang nato average income of all SSS contributors is 10K so average contribution per member is P1,045 and that's far beyond the P120 that you're using in your formula.

    Mao ni doul2x nga computation:


    31,000,000.00 1,045.00 32,395,000,000.00 12 388,740,000,000.00
    2,100,000.00 5,000.00 10,500,000,000.00 12 126,000,000,000.00
    NET 262,740,000,000.00

    Kanang 5K bana2x ra pod nga nga average pension kay kada pensioner lain2x man pod amt madawat depende sa ila na contribute sa member pa sila mao nang the bigger your contribution now, the bigger your pension later when you retire.

  5. #16785
    Quote Originally Posted by kestrel89 View Post
    Before ta mo judge na bogo si Pnoy. Do we have the numbers to crunch para ma check nato kung binogo ba jud? Pero kung gi-approve ang hike then by the time na mo pension ko kay wala na SSS kay nabangkarote. Aw, sakto ra sad iyang desisyon.
    So meaning bogo pud tong 200+ tongcressman ug 23 senatong me approved sa maong bill or pogi points lang nila kay hapit na eleksyon or waa piski ni abad pareha sa impeachment ni CJ corona..

  6. #16786
    Sa CCT nangutang tag kuarta nga $40 billion, unya ang BBL gitagan-an ug P 60 billion per year kung madayon ni pero kaning SSS nga kuarta man unta ni nato mga private employees gi abusahan lang ni nila ang funds. Hilas kaau kadagku sa sueldo aning mga tawhana as if SSS is a profit oriented private organization like Microsoft, SM Holdings, etc.

    Para kakita mo unsa ka ngilngig ug sueldo aning mga tawhana awa ni nga link:

    Social Security System Officials' Salary List | Local and Foreign Issues | PinoyExchange
    Last edited by rickflag; 01-20-2016 at 10:08 AM.

  7. #16787
    The president's term is coming to an end. Those who voted for the guy should write an essay about the presidency of PNoy and post it here.

  8. #16788
    Quote Originally Posted by geo25 View Post
    The president's term is coming to an end. Those who voted for the guy should write an essay about the presidency of PNoy and post it here.
    wow, that would be paaaaages. should be interesting.. yellows, anyone?

  9. #16789
    Ang sakit ani ni PNoy kay mangita ug mga shortcoming sa uban, pero ang iyahang kaugalingon dili niya makita.
    Take the example of martial law, how could he keep on blaming and accusing BBM. Unsay labot ni BBM sa iyang Papa during that time.
    That was 30 years ago. Hoy PNoy take a look at yourself before looking at others. Daghan dili ganahan sa imoha kay wala kay nahimo compare kang Marcos.

  10. #16790
    Effect of this so called EDSA

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