If someone ask you "Luwas na ba ka?", whats ur answer?

[BushidoFMA]

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@RCruman

im sorry ha but wala koy makit.an to support your stand nga naay duha ka kaluwasan.

ang ako rang nakita sa are verses to support about FAITH,baptism and how the usage of the bible.

No verse supporting that there are two kinds of salvation.

[nemmo723]

depende man na sa circumstances.
Kung nakasala ka nga wala nimo tuyoa or wala ka kahibalo nga nakasala ka aw dakog chance. pero kung nakahibalo ka nga sala nya imo gibuhat aw dako tag tulubagon.

Peace!

actually, makahibalo ang tao or dili, parehas ra ang measure sa iyang tubagonon. wala may excuse sa ignorance of the law. pero subjectively, it would appear na gamay ra iyang tubagonon, kay wa man siya kalibutan in the first place unsa iyang atraso.

intentional and unintentional crimes have the same weight of consequences in the law of nature.

[The_Child]

yeah.. rebirth.

its still not accepted in Christian doctrines though.

transmigration of Soul was held by Augustine.

Reincarnation is not, i think, compatible with Christianity. Because reincarnation is a corollary of their universal doctrine of justice: Rita. Karma being one of its corollary too.

[rcruman]

actually, makahibalo ang tao or dili, parehas ra ang measure sa iyang tubagonon. wala may excuse sa ignorance of the law. pero subjectively, it would appear na gamay ra iyang tubagonon, kay wa man siya kalibutan in the first place unsa iyang atraso.

intentional and unintentional crimes have the same weight of consequences in the law of nature.

Law of Man is different from the Law of God in the Bible.
Kay sa ato balaod (constitution) "Ignorance of the Law excuses no ONE" but in the bible:

12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
Romans 2:12-16

Peace!

[rcruman]

@RCruman

im sorry ha but wala koy makit.an to support your stand nga naay duha ka kaluwasan.

ang ako rang nakita sa are verses to support about FAITH,baptism and how the usage of the bible.

No verse supporting that there are two kinds of salvation.

Really?
Ani ni siya bro.
When a person accept and has been baptized he/she is saved from sins and through good works and staying in Faith he/she will be saved from HELL.

as what the bible says:

16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Romans 1:16-17

and

22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
Matthew 10:22

20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
2 Peter 2:20-22

pero kung wala ka kakita aw mao man gud ni ingon sa biblia:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
2 Corinthians 4:4

11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.

Mark 4:11-12

Peace!

[lana21]

yes..mao na ako tubag

[rcruman]

yes..mao na ako tubag

hangtud-hangtud?
Wala nay chance mawagtang?

Peace!

[BushidoFMA]

Really?
Ani ni siya bro.
When a person accept and has been baptized he/she is saved from sins and through good works and staying in Faith he/she will be saved from HELL.

as what the bible says:

16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Romans 1:16-17

and

22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
Matthew 10:22

20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
2 Peter 2:20-22

pero kung wala ka kakita aw mao man gud ni ingon sa biblia:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
2 Corinthians 4:4

11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.

Mark 4:11-12

Peace!

atot oi,hehehe mo quote lagi daun ug verse nga ig-on ta,hehehehe,blind diay ko? mag pa sumbingay daun ba,pero ok lang kay mao man jud kaha ng inyo.

anyways padayun ta...

INGUN KA nga there are two kinds of salvation then you used the verse Rom.1:16-17 as your basis sa imong position.

then ingun ka nga..."When a person accept and has been baptized he/she is saved from sins and through good works and staying in Faith he/she will be saved from HELL."

LAYO kaau imong interpretation sa ROMANS 1:16-17,hehehehe kaang versikuloha murag nag storya mana kabahin sa GAHUM sa EVANGELIO nga makaluwas sa mga motoo. Unya naghisgut pod na kabahin sa pagkamatarung sa ginoo.

AMBOT kung gi unsa na nimo pag interpret nga naabot man ka sa conclusion nga naay duha ka klase nga kaluwasan. hehehehehe.

kinsa kahay buta nato?

[Stingray Sr.]

Rcruman tubaga:
Unsay mahitabo sa kalag ni Abel?
Malangit kaha to siya nga wala man siya mabunyagi, ug wala kaila ni Kristo?

[rcruman]

Rcruman tubaga:
Unsay mahitabo sa kalag ni Abel?
Malangit kaha to siya nga wala man siya mabunyagi, ug wala kaila ni Kristo?

Bro based on the bible dakog chance nga maluwas si ABel kay nagbuhat siyag maayo.
Og dili ra si Kristo ang mangluluwas, kungdi :

Sapagka't dahil dito ay nagsisipagpagal kami at nagsisipagsikap, sapagka't may pagasa kami sa Dios na buhay, na siyang Tagapagligtas sa lahat ng mga tao, lalong lalo na sa mga nagsisisampalataya.
I Kay Timoteo 4:10

Sa pananampalataya si Abel ay naghandog sa Dios ng lalong mabuting hain kay sa kay Cain, sa pamamagitan nito'y sinaksihan sa kaniyang siya'y matuwid, na nagpapatotoo ang Dios tungkol sa kaniyang mga kaloob: at sa pamamagitan nito patay na siya ay nagsasalita pa.
Mga Hebreo 11:4


Dili ra si Kristo ang mangluluwas, ang luwason ni Kristo kay ang Iglesia.
Sapagka’t ang lalake ay pangulo ng kaniyang asawa, gaya naman ni Cristo na pangulo ng iglesia, na siya rin ang tagapagligtas ng katawan.
Mga Taga-Efeso 5:23

og ang katawan kay:

At siya ang ulo ng katawan, sa makatuwid baga’y ng iglesia; na siya ang pasimula, ang panganay sa mga patay; upang sa lahat ng mga bagay, ay magkaroon siya ng kadakilaan.
Mga Taga-Colosas 1:18

Peace!