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    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
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    ^^ Above is an example sa usa tao nga non-sense na mo comment, nagpada sa gi bati resulta dli ka move on. Kalouy baya intawn
    Hehehe.. e back read daw yhokz, kinsa cge hangyo dri na past is past... Sala sa iyang Father walay apil c BBM.. Kami dri na against ni BBM.. open man mi kung hisgotan ang panahon sa iyang amahan, pde sad... Kay aron maukay ang mga samad sa kagahapon! Kung gusto ka focus ni BBM pwede ra sad kay Bogo na, Bakakon pa jud na c BBM... Bisan asa gusto nimo yhokz open mi! Pero dli lang pwede kung negative part ni FM dili mo sugot, Pero kung Good side gane sakay jud ka, Front seat pa jud!

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    Quote Originally Posted by messy_meh View Post
    The windmill project in Ilocos and the tourism there under Bongbong's stint as Governor of the Province of Ilocos.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baCY...ature=youtu.be
    akong giukay Sis.. wla man jud ko nakita na project ni sa Provincial Government.. ikaw basin naa ka more info diha gawas sa sa previous link nimo? Wind power in Ilocos project: 233 GWh/yr | Inquirer Technology
    EDC gets $315-M loan for Burgos wind project | Inquirer Business
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo24 View Post
    Hehehe.. e back read daw yhokz, kinsa cge hangyo dri na past is past... Sala sa iyang Father walay apil c BBM.. Kami dri na against ni BBM.. open man mi kung hisgotan ang panahon sa iyang amahan, pde sad... Kay aron maukay ang mga samad sa kagahapon! Kung gusto ka focus ni BBM pwede ra sad kay Bogo na, Bakakon pa jud na c BBM... Bisan asa gusto nimo yhokz open mi! Pero dli lang pwede kung negative part ni FM dili mo sugot, Pero kung Good side gane sakay jud ka, Front seat pa jud!
    Sabat man lage ka diretso, rickflag statement/comment is true then i showed him nganu based sa history.. putak lang ka diretso wa sa tono, mag silbi?

    Dia ra ang lista nganu wa kay credibilidad ka storya:


    - ikyas man gani ka pangayuan sa list sa mga bills and accomplishments nila chiz ug trillanes.. pa luma2x naman hnuon kag open.

    - nangayu ko articles or links suggesting BBM is "bogo", wala ka kahatag. Baba ra nmo cge putak...

    - Cge ra balik2x na dautan c BBM, useless bogo.. maau pa ang uban na VP candidates. Dli man gani ka maka hatag sa sakto na comparison or dli nmo ma justify aside sa: Oxford or namakak sa education attainment. Naa pod imong ingon na nangulelat sa bills?

    In short apollo boy, nagpataka rakag yawit diri.. mostly sa imong argument about BBM is ad hominem. Mao na pag puyo nalang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo24 View Post
    akong giukay Sis.. wla man jud ko nakita na project ni sa Provincial Government.. ikaw basin naa ka more info diha gawas sa sa previous link nimo? Wind power in Ilocos project: 233 GWh/yr | Inquirer Technology
    EDC gets $315-M loan for Burgos wind project | Inquirer Business
    Di man na kinahanglan ang mofund ana ang government. Mao nay gamit sa mga investors.

    Tilting at windmills: Bongbong Marcos’ wind farm initiative
    9 November 2009

    By Alma Anonas-Carpio | Originally published in Graphic Magazine

    The story of how Ilocos Norte Rep. Bongbong Marcos and his associates in the effort to free the town of Bangui from “dirty electricity”–electricity that dips and spikes—eerily echoes Spanish author Miguel de Cervantes’ opus The Ingenious Hidalgo Don Quixote de la Mancha. Not just over the matter of “tilting at windmills,” but also over the path the congressman from the north had to beat to provide the Ilocos region with a steady, clean power supply.

    Many in Manila have forgotten the blackouts of the 1990s. It is said that the reliable utilities like clean(read: steady) electricity and water, as well as reliable communications drive economic growth. Outside of imperial Manila, however, these utilities are luxuries.

    “I remember that a friend once told me about wind power using windmills in 1998. I didn’t pay that comment much mind back then,” Marcos said in an interview with the Graphic.

    “In 2002, I saw a patch of land in Bangui that was not good for planting crops or raising livestock. It was not good for anything. I asked one of my friends to go to that area and see if it would be suitable for use as a golf course, perhaps we could make a tourist destination of it instead of letting it go to waste,” he disclosed. “My friend said it would not make a good golf course because it was too windy.”

    That was when the mustard seed planted in 1998 took root and sprouted, Marcos said. “That’s when my friends’ comments connected: Windmills were a potential source of clean energy and the place in Bangui was windy. So that was when we began planning a wind farm. I also wanted to free my constituency from dirty electricity–the kind that spikes and drops and destroys electronic equipment so that our people here did not want to buy appliances because the erratic power would destroy such equipment.”

    The idea was good, he said, but the implementation was not easy, as there were no laws or guidelines in place for building windmill turbines for power generation. “We had to find sources of funding and we had to feel our way through the various clearances and certifications that were needed for the project because there were no guidelines for us to follow,” Marcos noted. “This had never been done before. We did not have carbon credits to start up with, either.” Funding came in the form of a Dutch government grant as assistance to this project, among others.

    Carbon credits, he explains are an environmental incentive given to firms that work to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions, provide clean energy and use environmentally-sound practices and power. Such credits can be exchanged for cash or used to purchase more green technology and equipment. Carbon credits have become so successful an endeavor, Marcos said. “that there are firms that do nothing but trade in carbon credits. There are billions of dollars being traded just in carbon credits. That is how large the potential benefits of working to promote the environmental agenda is.”

    Marcos noted that Ilocos Norte is at the very end of the country’s northern power grid, a situation that makes “every problem on the power grid our problem, as well, because each trip (in power supply) affect us.” The windmill farm, he said, was meant to provide the residents in the northernmost towns “with a power supply that would compensate for the dirty electricity and power fluctuations that were plaguing us.”

    Then there was the matter of getting the locals to agree to the installation of windmills in Bangui, the easiest of the tasks Marcos had to complete on his quest for greener power for his constituents. “We had no problem with the local consultations. We explained the technology to the people and brought it to the mandatory hearing and consultations. They agreed to the installation of the wind farm because they saw the benefits to this technology for their community and for the rest of the province.”

    Now, the Bangui wind farm is harnessing the winds that whip the northern tip of the country and, on a good day, provides 34 megawatts of power. This wind farm provides between 30% and 45% of the Ilocos region’s power requirements – a much larger, better result than any of the project proponents, Marcos included, had anticipated.

    As an added bonus, the windmill farm has also become a tourist attraction, a development that “we never foresaw,” he said, adding that “we also did not foresee that our efforts to stabilize our own power supply would result in making our province a clean-energy model for other regions.” These, he said were pleasant surprises, “especially since starting the project was so difficult for us.”

    Now, the problem Marcos and his associates in the windmill farm endeavor is in “finding a supply for our turbines” as demand for wind power and windmill turbines has grown considerably, “to the point that the United States has brought out our supply.” Marcos turned to “some old friends in China, who introduced me to one of China’s three turbine manufacturers.”

    The Bangui project should soon see better, more efficient turbines capable of generating more megawatts of electricity, he added, as the Chinese turbine-makers “buy the best available turbines, reverse engineer them and offer windmills that incorporate the best features from the other manufacturers at a lower cost.”

    The highest maintenance cost for the windmills of Bangui, Marcos said, “is in debugging. We have to constantly clean the blades of our turbines because insects get caught in them, stick to them and reduce their efficiency. It is not easy or cheap to clean turbines this big, I will tell you. We have to spray them down with water regularly to keep them functioning at peak efficiency.”

    Marcos also cautioned that, while Ilocos has a set fine example with its clean power production, windmills “are not for everybody. The people who helped set up the Bangui project will probably look at other locations that may wish to harness wind power, set up one windmill and leave it there for a year to monitor the wind density and other factors that need to come together for wind turbine power generation to be viable in the area. If, after one year, these factors are not favorable for the development of wind farms, the experts will tell potential wind project proponents that wind farms are not viable option for them.”

    Wind power also has its season, Marcos pointed out. “We have months when we expect more wind and, therefore greater wind density and power output, and there are the months when we expect the power generation capacity to taper off a bit because we will have less wind .” This, he said, makes a wind farm good as backup system for traditional power production methods, “but not as a main power source. You still need traditional power plants to provide the regular supply. In the future, when turbine technology is further refined, perhaps it would be possible , but not now.”

    Is Marcos titling at windmills? Yes, he is and he seems to be doing so with a reasonable level of success that says, yes, looking for ways to provide clean power and to live in harmony with the environment can be beneficial indeed.
    Tilting at windmills: Bongbong Marcos’ wind farm initiative | Bongbong Marcos

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    @ messy_meh try to search sa mga independent source sis... Syempre kung anha lang ka mobasa sa website ni BBM pulos jud na pabor niya! Patabang ni Google sis kay tabangan ka niya!

    Mura mo ani Sis ug "usa ka Baki na gikan sa iyang pagkamatngon ug buot diha na sya sulod sa Atabay na nagtoo sya na mao na to ang kalibutan... Dihang dako na sya accidentally nasakay sa timba ug pag-abot niya sa ibabaw paghangad niya, nakaingon sya Pagkadako pa d.i sa Kalibutan ". Hopefully, 1 day makagawas sad mo sa Atabay!"
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    @ yhokz101 ..... abi ko man ug nakasabot ka ani imong gipangsulti... Sige lang ta 2yhokz-2x ani? Yhokz, Sakto ni O Dili?
    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    ^^ @Apollo24, aww nindot diay c chiz! ohh cya ang butari! homan ang storya... hahaah! So c chiz ang imong VP? Eh di wow!

    if bills passed ra ang imong himoun ug basehan, simple nalang diay ni ang qualification sa VP candidates?

    Sen. Antonio Trillanes IV kay 307 bills man? Mas labaw pa si trillanes ni Chiz? Hahaha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    Sabat man lage ka diretso, rickflag statement/comment is true then i showed him nganu based sa history.. putak lang ka diretso wa sa tono, mag silbi?

    Dia ra ang lista nganu wa kay credibilidad ka storya:


    - ikyas man gani ka pangayuan sa list sa mga bills and accomplishments nila chiz ug trillanes.. pa luma2x naman hnuon kag open.

    - nangayu ko articles or links suggesting BBM is "bogo", wala ka kahatag. Baba ra nmo cge putak...

    - Cge ra balik2x na dautan c BBM, useless bogo.. maau pa ang uban na VP candidates. Dli man gani ka maka hatag sa sakto na comparison or dli nmo ma justify aside sa: Oxford or namakak sa education attainment. Naa pod imong ingon na nangulelat sa bills?

    In short apollo boy, nagpataka rakag yawit diri.. mostly sa imong argument about BBM is ad hominem. Mao na pag puyo nalang.
    Walay Queston ug Sakto o Sayop ba na ang ka Rickflag... Ang punto diha ang imo giingon from the start na stick to the topic.. Apil ba c BBM ana?

    BAlik2x napud yhokz101 nganong Bogo c BBM? gikan ni Meriam Defensor Santiago.Drop-out si BBM sa UP... Gikan sa rappler.. Gikan sa UP, nibalhin sya sa Oxford, hagbong napud, nibalhin sa Wharton, Hagbong napod... 3 ka Schools ug different courses ha... Bisan unsa nalang ang Kurso, Hagbong japon.. unsa may tawag ana? BOGO! Bongbong Marcos corrects resumé EXCLUSIVE: Did Bongbong Marcos lie about Oxford, Wharton?

    Tan-awa ra gud nang youtube gi provide ni messy_meh... Magsulti c BBM murag ikaw... mag-istorya murag ampaw sa Car2x... Nagdaghan lang ang istorya, walay unod!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo24 View Post
    @ messy_meh try to search sa mga independent source sis... Syempre kung anha lang ka mobasa sa website ni BBM pulos jud na pabor niya! Patabang ni Google sis kay tabangan ka niya!

    Mura mo ani Sis ug usa ka Baki na gikan sa iyang pagkamatngon ug buot diha na sya sulod sa Atabay na nagtoo sya na mao na to ang kalibutan... Dihang dako na sya accidentally nasakay sa timba ug pag-abot niya sa ibabaw paghangad niya, nakaingon sya Pagkadako pa d.i sa Kalibutan ". Hopefully, 1 day makagawas sad mo sa Atabay!
    Hinaut ko sa imong gi example nga baki mamahimo siyang ehemplo nimo ug maka amgo ka ug makagawas sa atabay.

    Of all the people here in istorya ikaw ang pinakagahi.........pinakagahi pasabton. Bro ani nalang, pwede ka makahatag ug link that discredit BBM's Wind Power Project?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo24 View Post
    @ messy_meh try to search sa mga independent source sis... Syempre kung anha lang ka mobasa sa website ni BBM pulos jud na pabor niya! Patabang ni Google sis kay tabangan ka niya!

    Mura mo ani Sis ug "usa ka Baki na gikan sa iyang pagkamatngon ug buot diha na sya sulod sa Atabay na nagtoo sya na mao na to ang kalibutan... Dihang dako na sya accidentally nasakay sa timba ug pag-abot niya sa ibabaw paghangad niya, nakaingon sya Pagkadako pa d.i sa Kalibutan ". Hopefully, 1 day makagawas sad mo sa Atabay!"
    pa ila lang jd wa nag basa, nangita man hnuon na project sa Provincial Government nga dili man jd... [yabo na pod ang rugby boy]

    "Contractors for the Burgos wind farm

    Denmark-based Vestas Wind Systems supplied and installed 50 V90-3.0MW turbines for the project. The company also provided associated on-site civil and electrical works for the project, and will operate and maintain the wind farm under a ten-year operations and maintenance (O&M) agreement.

    First Balfour was sub-contracted by Vestas for the civil works of the 87MW first phase.

    The company was also contracted by the EDC for the detailed engineering, design, construction and installation of the 43km-long, 115kV overhead transmission line.
    "

    sayun raman gd na pangitaon.. nganu dumtan man gd ang windmnill (Bangui Wind Farm), total kinopya raman gud ni sa laing nasud diba @Apollo24? Why ato man ning ika garbo nga ang technology gina copya raman gud tawn nato sa ubang nasud.. [falpak]

    Burgos Wind Project, Ilocos Norte - Power Technology
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangui_Wind_Farm
    Last edited by yhokz101; 10-29-2015 at 03:00 PM.

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    hahahaha lingawa nako aning yokz ug apollo oi hahaha

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