Bongbong Marcos to run as President

[PhakSheet]

hahahaha.. kung tarung ang ka storya makuha man dayun, ang usa kay mo hunong man ambot asa dli maka kuha sa punto.

sakto ka ana sa imog sulti ug interpretation.. kay when i said it went sour, padung na ka way lami and how many years man to. Pero dli nato balewalaon and e pinpoint tanan to marcos although iya tong term, there are people, a lot of people who push it also. And to think some of them are enjoying luxurious life in the govt positions. Martial law was decided not by one person only but by many during that time. And Im pretty sure BBM is not one of those in position who influenced or give a go signal for martial law.

But to think after marcos regime have we as a nation gotten better or remain stagnant and did not go with our neighboring countries? That's one point we need to consider and ponder on. What have we achieve other than ousting a distator? Who benefitted the movement the most? I will just lay this here and stop on discussing the "marcos era" and continue on the topic on hand.

Before ko mo-continue sa topic, naa lang koy ipa-ambit gamay regarding sa imong reply.
Actually, sakto ka nga dili nato dapat i-basul ang tanan kang Marcos.
During the later part sa iyang regime, I think gagamit nalang siya nilang Imelda, Ver ug sa iyang mga cronies.
(Imelda & Ver were thought to be the mastermind sa asassination ni Ninoy to maintain their grip in power.
That was because Ninoy was the greatest threat to Marcos' presidency.)
Pero mobalik man gud na sa iya kay siya man ang nag-empower nila.

With regards sa imong pangutana nga "after marcos regime have we as a nation gotten better", ang akong masulti ani kay
1. Much better with regards to human rights => I think mao ni ang greatest failure ni Marcos.
2. Better with regards to economy during the end of Marcos' regime. RP was broke near the end of Marcos regime.
3. We still lag compared to our neighboring countries.
RP was the best SEA Nation before Marcos. But during the later part of his term, he was already begging for a loan from Singapore's Lee Kwan Yew and was turned down due to Yew's assessment of RP's incapability to pay at that time.

For the topic, BBM is not his father and thus, should not be judged of his father's misdeeds.
However, if he is definitely sincere of helping the Filipino people, he should initiate a voluntary surrender of his family's loot.
Pero base sa iyang mga gipangsulti lately, wa na sa iyang hunahuna. Niingon pa gani siya nga way angayan nga ipangayo ug pasaylo ang iyang pamilya sa mga Pilipino.

[Apollo24]

unsa may nagpa hypokrito diha? Ayaw pataka ug yawit.. nag ingon ko nmo na dli tanan maau ang nahitabo sa panahon ni marcos. I shared that link coz you are asking for it.. i laid it loud and clear to you dodong apollo na dli lage tanan all praises sa kadtong era ni marcos? Unsa paman ang imong gina ask pa? Kana kung kasabot ka sa akong punto.. hinay man gd ka kau mo analyze.

Ni come up ko sa BBM kay mao man na ang thread topic OBVIOUSLY, I am trying to direct you to it para dli mo Out of Topic. Ka gets ka? Marcos virus... dili kaha imo ang yellow virus gikan ni panot?

Unsay educational background ni BBM?

mao ni:

- Finished his elementary education at De la Salle College and his secondary education at Worth School in England.
- He never earned the B.A., he stated for the record
- Then went to Wharton School of Business in the US to obtain his master's degree in business administration but was cut short since he was elected as vice governor of Ilocos Norte.

compared sa imong Panot aquino:
- He attended Ateneo de Manila University in Quezon City for his elementary, high school, and college education. He graduated in 1981 with a Bachelor's degree in Economics. He was one of the students of former professor of economics at Ateneo de Manila University, former President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo.

Conclusion: MAS BILIB pko sa achievements ug abilidad ni Bongbong marcos kaysa ni Panot nimo.. dili igong basehan ang educational attainment sa usa ka tao para masukod nimo asa jd ang kaya ang iyang abilidad.

Why we push BBM to run? Kay mas BILIB mi ani nya compared sa uban samot na anang panot, wa ray katunga!

kay out of topic naman ni, padung sa lain na topic. gets nmo? On the first place ikaw may nangayu ana.. padung manjd ka OT kung buot huna2x-on as always.. either mo out of topic or mo tuyok. pilay pusta mo tuyok na pod ka sa sunod nimong reply.

Hahaha... Relax lang yhokz101.. Ang puso mo, ingatan mo... Wla ka motobay sa kang FM kay out of topic kay kang BBM ni.. Pero naabot ka ni Panot.. Naglibog ko sa imong reasoning.. Nataptan na jud ka sa Marcos' virus? OT: sa pkas na thread depensa ko ni Pnoy kay bsan ug bali-balihon pa ug analyze base sa GDP na maoy barometer sa mga ececonomist.. Walay nakalupig niya... Pero gipasagdan nako ang maong thread kay bisan unsay buhaton sa mga bashers ddto wala na silay mahimo kay mahuman na ni Pnoy ang iyang Term.. Mapatik na sa History... OnT- dri nasad ta, dri nakasalalay ang future sa Pilipinas kay hapit naman ang election... C OUThinking man to among ka debate ni Paksheet, gitagaan siya ug 2 Links para pamalandungan niya.. While gabasa sya kay taas ra ba.. Nangayo sad ko ug Link sa mga source niya kay basin pa sakto sya.. Ug kalit ka nag-post, nalipay ko ka naay sweto na naabot.. Sa dihang tunga2x nata sa atong discussion, simang dayon ka kay out of topic.. In the first place, wla ko mangayo nimo ana, niapil lang ka ug kalit sa among istorya! Mai ni imong Link marcos era

[yhokz101]

Before ko mo-continue sa topic, naa lang koy ipa-ambit gamay regarding sa imong reply.
Actually, sakto ka nga dili nato dapat i-basul ang tanan kang Marcos.
During the later part sa iyang regime, I think gagamit nalang siya nilang Imelda, Ver ug sa iyang mga cronies.
(Imelda & Ver were thought to be the mastermind sa asassination ni Ninoy to maintain their grip in power.
That was because Ninoy was the greatest threat to Marcos' presidency.)
Pero mobalik man gud na sa iya kay siya man ang nag-empower nila.

The people / reason behind the assassination ni ninoy is still at large and to think ni agi sa admin ni cory ug ni panot, with all their power wala ghapon nila na open ug na hatagan ug justice ang case. I just wonder why? Again the easiest way is to point the finger to Imelda as it realy fits into the story. Moving on..

With regards sa imong pangutana nga "after marcos regime have we as a nation gotten better", ang akong masulti ani kay
1. Much better with regards to human rights => I think mao ni ang greatest failure ni Marcos.

Of course given the state sa nation, it was under martial law, it is prone on violating human rights, it is a den of abuse and torture. Failure niya is to foresee the outcome sa martial law in the long run, could be he/they were in fact tempted with power and all. Again, not him alone but them.

2. Better with regards to economy during the end of Marcos' regime. RP was broke near the end of Marcos regime.

Philippine economy suffered a downturn due to a mixture of domestic and international problems. The GDP of the Philippines rose during the martial law, rising from P55 million to P193 million in about 8 years. However it spurred into a total chaos that boom our debt, there are lots of factors to consider upon analyzing the economy during the end of marcos regime. One thing we must also consider - Corruption. This is still rampant these days in our government, only they are distributed to many not to limited people, so....

3. We still lag compared to our neighboring countries.

True, are we are still lagging up to this date...even Cambodia is tailing us. How many years have past after EDSA?

RP was the best SEA Nation before Marcos. But during the later part of his term, he was already begging for a loan from Singapore's Lee Kwan Yew and was turned down due to Yew's assessment of RP's incapability to pay at that time.

Yes, later part of his term. Our debt went high as corruption is rampant and all other factors.

For the topic, BBM is not his father and thus, should not be judged of his father's misdeeds.
However, if he is definitely sincere of helping the Filipino people, he should initiate a voluntary surrender of his family's loot.
Pero base sa iyang mga gipangsulti lately, wa na sa iyang hunahuna. Niingon pa gani siya nga way angayan nga ipangayo ug pasaylo ang iyang pamilya sa mga Pilipino.

Those might be true, Im not denying about those astrocities during the martial law, much more of the corruption. But that thing you said voluntary surrender of his family's loot is more like a presumption that those wealth are all ill-gotten? If so how come the supreme court orders reinstatement of Marcos children in ill-gotten wealth case? Again why should he say sorry? kindly please elaborate your statement as to why? Remember he was 15 years old at that time.. does it matter? It wasn’t his fault.

salamat sa imong reply bro. Now we go back to our topic na..

[OUTthinking]

taas na kaayo pero unsaon ta man acquitted man c marcos - lisod jud diay na dawaton sa mga anti-MARCOS?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uZl4h2fLuk

dagko na unta ilaronon pman japun - luoy sad.

[brownie]

Panis ang mga Aquino

[PhakSheet]

The poeple / reason behind the assassination ni ninoy is still at large and to think ni agi sa admin ni cory ug ni panot, with all their power wala ghapon nila na open ug na hatagan ug justice and case. I just wonder why? Again the easiest way is to point the finger to Imelda as it realy fits into the story. Moving on..

It's hard to get justice when all the leads were already cleansed. Technically, no one was proven responsible for the crime but any person who uses his/her brain knows who.

Of course given the state sa nation was under martial law, it is prone to violating human rights, it is a den of abuse and torture. Failure niya is to foresee the outcome sa martial law in the long run, could be he/they was in fact tempted with power and all. Again, not him alone but them.

Not him alone but he was the one who planned and decided for its implementation.

Philippine economy suffered a downturn due to a mixture of domestic and international problems. The GDP of the Philippines rose during the martial law, rising from P55 million to P193 million in about 8 years. HOweverit spurred into a total chaos that boom our debt, there are lots of factors to consider upon analyzing the economy during the end of marcos regime. One thing we must also consider - Corruption, and still rampant these days in our government only they are distributed to many not to limited people, so....

The growth was triggered by the loans that were above RP's capacity to pay. And when its time to pay, that's when the problem surfaced.

True, are we are still lag up to this date...even Cambodia is tailing us. How many years have past after EDSA?

In a race, if someone trips and falls, it would be hard for him to catch-up with the others. That's what happened to RP.

Yes, later part of his term. Our debt went high as corruption is rampant.

Yes, aside from the fact that Marcos was lobbying for loans just for the payment of the interest of the previous loans.

Those might be true, Im not denying about those astrocities during the martial law, much more of the corruption. But that thing you said voluntary surrender of his family's loot is more like a presumpting those wealth are all ill-gotten? If so how come the supreme court orders reinstatement of Marcos children in ill-gotten wealth case? Again why should he say sorry? kindly please elaborate your statement as to why? Remember he was 15 years old at that time.. does it matter? It wasn’t his fault.

I think this portion is related to the topic as this has to do with BBM, unlike the topics above which is more on the Marcos' regime.

With regards to their (Marcos Family) wealth, how much wealth have they got before and how much they have after they were exiled. What is their legal business? Swiss bank accounts were found by millions of dollars. How were they able to accumulate that amount? Some have been recovered but did it already covered all that were ill-gotten by the family?

Again why should he say sorry? kindly please elaborate your statement as to why? Remember he was 15 years old at that time.. does it matter? It wasn’t his fault.

He should say sorry in behalf of his family. and Yes, it matters. It was not his fault but his family. But as a benefactor of his father's ill-gotten wealth and as a member of the family that caused the suffering of a countless Filipinos, he should say sorry.

[OUTthinking]

if ill-gotten wealth jud, why man acquitted c marcos? lisod jud gihapon na sabton?

another martial law angle not taught in school: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6Imb00sqyY

[kit_cebu]

Panis ang mga Aquino

ani lang...

Spoiler! 

bayot boang

[OUTthinking]

Marcos became one of the richest men in the world in 1945 - years way before he became President.
Claims of his ill-gotten wealth are nothing but lies.

[OUTthinking]

CIA removed Marcos with the help of Filipino communist traitors - under the guise of People Power.