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  1. #1401

    ANOTHER INSIGHT REGARDING ALL THESE SCAMS..
    (Emgoldex/Gold Intergold, Gold Extreme, Success 200, etc)
    Let us suppose the banks follow this exit/table bandwagon, because as the numerous proponents say, their financial mechanism is legal. So, granting the banks follow suit, what do you think would be the scenario? Let us speculate.
    Granting BDO comes out with an ad:
    Deposit Php 3,000, and your money becomes Php 30,000! Nice right?
    Now, of course for this to be legal, it must adhere to a technical requirement: the existence of product/s. So BDO decides to give products to its participant, mainly an executive planner with the bank's brand/logo, an executive pen, and an umbrella. There, there, now, it is technically legal.
    Now since BDO is a prestigious bank, within the first day of advertising, 10,000 people joined the program. This means an instantaneous Php 30,000,000 pay in. The question now is, how will the bank raise Php 300,000,000 (well, to be exact, 270,000,000) for the pay out, not to mention in so short a time.
    So where will the bank park the Php 30M for it to have a gain of Php 300M?
    Bonds and debt securities? Too long term.3-10 years.
    Money Market? Shorter than bond, but still, a year of maturity.
    Equity/stock? The most likely kind of fund where you can gain (or lose) overnight. But a 900-1000% growth of stock? Impossible.
    Forex? Remember a Russian investor invested 9B in Euro Currency and earned 1B. But that is still just a 10-12percent growth.
    Hedge Funds and Speculative Trading? Even, with the high yield and high risk nature, these funds do not hit a 1000% growth.
    How about investing in a business platform? A possible 100% yes.Even 200%. But 1000%? In a short time? No can do.
    Where then can the bank invest the Php 30M?
    The answer? NO WHERE.
    Even with their catch phrase WE FIND WAYS, there is no way for a 1000% percent yield. No way for a bank to turn a Php 3,000 into a Php 30,000.
    How then does a company like GOLD INTERGOLD, SUCCESS200, GOLD EXTREME, etc etc do it? I mean, with all the financial wizards, consultants, and specialists in banks, financial institutions, mutual fund companies, investment houses, and investment companies, how can these known financial institutions take a back seat to these EXIT/TABLE whatever, companies?
    Well, the answer is simple.
    These companies do not invest the pay ins in any money instruments.
    They use your pay-in in paying your leaders. And they use the pay ins of your recruits to pay you. And so on and so forth.
    What do you call this?
    It is called PYRAMIDING. PONZI SCHEME.
    And this is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and UNETHICAL, even if your company is not listed in the SEC's watch list.
    -------------------
    So,
    To all those pondering on joining these schemes: DON'T. Better an honest gain than a tainted yield.
    To all those promoting these schemes: Why don't you call your company and ask for a logical explanation. If indeed they use pay ins for the pay out, then the truth shall set you free, but first it will hurt like hell. Php 1,800 does not grow into Php 10,000 like money grows on a tree.
    Remember:
    IF IT DEFIES COMMON SENSE, DENY THE NON-SENSE!
    To all those with extra to invest: I would suggest you park your money in known institutions such as PRULIFE, SUNLIFE, and other legal financial institutions and/or banks, or even real estate. Look for a financial/real estatel consultant, and ask advice from one who studied about money management, and even took licensure exams. Not from an uninitiated recruiter who knows nothing about financial management. Better a slower and lower yield where you keep your soul intact. Than one, who, upon their company's closure, would have to hide their tail between their legs.

  2. #1402
    Quote Originally Posted by gabzreal View Post
    ANOTHER INSIGHT REGARDING ALL THESE SCAMS..
    (Emgoldex/Gold Intergold, Gold Extreme, Success 200, etc)
    Let us suppose the banks follow this exit/table bandwagon, because as the numerous proponents say, their financial mechanism is legal. So, granting the banks follow suit, what do you think would be the scenario? Let us speculate.
    Granting BDO comes out with an ad:
    Deposit Php 3,000, and your money becomes Php 30,000! Nice right?
    Now, of course for this to be legal, it must adhere to a technical requirement: the existence of product/s. So BDO decides to give products to its participant, mainly an executive planner with the bank's brand/logo, an executive pen, and an umbrella. There, there, now, it is technically legal.
    Now since BDO is a prestigious bank, within the first day of advertising, 10,000 people joined the program. This means an instantaneous Php 30,000,000 pay in. The question now is, how will the bank raise Php 300,000,000 (well, to be exact, 270,000,000) for the pay out, not to mention in so short a time.
    So where will the bank park the Php 30M for it to have a gain of Php 300M?
    Bonds and debt securities? Too long term.3-10 years.
    Money Market? Shorter than bond, but still, a year of maturity.
    Equity/stock? The most likely kind of fund where you can gain (or lose) overnight. But a 900-1000% growth of stock? Impossible.
    Forex? Remember a Russian investor invested 9B in Euro Currency and earned 1B. But that is still just a 10-12percent growth.
    Hedge Funds and Speculative Trading? Even, with the high yield and high risk nature, these funds do not hit a 1000% growth.
    How about investing in a business platform? A possible 100% yes.Even 200%. But 1000%? In a short time? No can do.
    Where then can the bank invest the Php 30M?
    The answer? NO WHERE.
    Even with their catch phrase WE FIND WAYS, there is no way for a 1000% percent yield. No way for a bank to turn a Php 3,000 into a Php 30,000.
    How then does a company like GOLD INTERGOLD, SUCCESS200, GOLD EXTREME, etc etc do it? I mean, with all the financial wizards, consultants, and specialists in banks, financial institutions, mutual fund companies, investment houses, and investment companies, how can these known financial institutions take a back seat to these EXIT/TABLE whatever, companies?
    Well, the answer is simple.
    These companies do not invest the pay ins in any money instruments.
    They use your pay-in in paying your leaders. And they use the pay ins of your recruits to pay you. And so on and so forth.
    What do you call this?
    It is called PYRAMIDING. PONZI SCHEME.
    And this is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and UNETHICAL, even if your company is not listed in the SEC's watch list.
    -------------------
    So,
    To all those pondering on joining these schemes: DON'T. Better an honest gain than a tainted yield.
    To all those promoting these schemes: Why don't you call your company and ask for a logical explanation. If indeed they use pay ins for the pay out, then the truth shall set you free, but first it will hurt like hell. Php 1,800 does not grow into Php 10,000 like money grows on a tree.
    Remember:
    IF IT DEFIES COMMON SENSE, DENY THE NON-SENSE!
    To all those with extra to invest: I would suggest you park your money in known institutions such as PRULIFE, SUNLIFE, and other legal financial institutions and/or banks, or even real estate. Look for a financial/real estatel consultant, and ask advice from one who studied about money management, and even took licensure exams. Not from an uninitiated recruiter who knows nothing about financial management. Better a slower and lower yield where you keep your soul intact. Than one, who, upon their company's closure, would have to hide their tail between their legs.
    Very well said. This will enlighten the minds of our fellow istoryans who are favorite target of this deceptive networkers

  3. #1403
    ky ang nagrecruite (nabasahan ra nako) maayo kaayo muimbitar pero dili magpautang hihi

  4. #1404
    swerte swerte ra na, kung maabtan ka sa imong tapul goodbye imong gi invest, ana ra ng networking.
    ang naka paet ana kung inutang pa jud nimo imong ge invest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chin_pao View Post
    guys naa lang ko ask based sa inyong comment murag malabo jud ka moasenso sa networking pero naa koy nailhan na networker naka duha ka kotse naman lage..what do you think?legit na gain jud nya as networker? or gihatag sa ila networking company or gipahuwam ra sa ila company para panghi*****,pang-agni,pangpaikag whatsoever etc....unsa inyo ikasulti ani?any idea?

  5. #1405
    daghan raba chix sa networking lol

  6. #1406
    Legal or Illegal nga networking or pyramiding Dili ko maglagot anang mga systemaha, ky daghan na millionaryo sa pilipinas, KY sa Government system or political system mga POlitiko ray na milyonaryo. dugay namong gi.ilad..example vote Ginay Gaganda ang buhay..to.o pud mo.. labaw pana ka scam sa networking scam ang politica..pila nman ka years cge mog botar..na nindot inyong kinabuhi? ni dako inyong sweldo?...unya? gamit gihapon mo sa political system?... daghan mog sat2x sa networking tan.awa sa Encyclopedia unsay meaning sa network marketing? scam ang meaning? ilad2x?... kahibw mo ngano pobre ang mga pinoy? tungod sa educational system! shocking?..daghan subjects gibayran wlay gamit sa real life...unya? ni reklamo mo? na scam ramo..scam man pud na ang school system..balik2x ang subjects..mahal bya kaau..nig trabaho? gamay sweldo wla ka bawi sa gi skwelahan? unya? kana imong kurso? mao na imong trabaho krn?..nursing ka pero tig take ug calls ka sa callcenter..

  7. #1407
    Quote Originally Posted by gabzreal View Post
    ANOTHER INSIGHT REGARDING ALL THESE SCAMS..
    (Emgoldex/Gold Intergold, Gold Extreme, Success 200, etc)
    Let us suppose the banks follow this exit/table bandwagon, because as the numerous proponents say, their financial mechanism is legal. So, granting the banks follow suit, what do you think would be the scenario? Let us speculate.
    Granting BDO comes out with an ad:
    Deposit Php 3,000, and your money becomes Php 30,000! Nice right?
    Now, of course for this to be legal, it must adhere to a technical requirement: the existence of product/s. So BDO decides to give products to its participant, mainly an executive planner with the bank's brand/logo, an executive pen, and an umbrella. There, there, now, it is technically legal.
    Now since BDO is a prestigious bank, within the first day of advertising, 10,000 people joined the program. This means an instantaneous Php 30,000,000 pay in. The question now is, how will the bank raise Php 300,000,000 (well, to be exact, 270,000,000) for the pay out, not to mention in so short a time.
    So where will the bank park the Php 30M for it to have a gain of Php 300M?
    Bonds and debt securities? Too long term.3-10 years.
    Money Market? Shorter than bond, but still, a year of maturity.
    Equity/stock? The most likely kind of fund where you can gain (or lose) overnight. But a 900-1000% growth of stock? Impossible.
    Forex? Remember a Russian investor invested 9B in Euro Currency and earned 1B. But that is still just a 10-12percent growth.
    Hedge Funds and Speculative Trading? Even, with the high yield and high risk nature, these funds do not hit a 1000% growth.
    How about investing in a business platform? A possible 100% yes.Even 200%. But 1000%? In a short time? No can do.
    Where then can the bank invest the Php 30M?
    The answer? NO WHERE.
    Even with their catch phrase WE FIND WAYS, there is no way for a 1000% percent yield. No way for a bank to turn a Php 3,000 into a Php 30,000.
    How then does a company like GOLD INTERGOLD, SUCCESS200, GOLD EXTREME, etc etc do it? I mean, with all the financial wizards, consultants, and specialists in banks, financial institutions, mutual fund companies, investment houses, and investment companies, how can these known financial institutions take a back seat to these EXIT/TABLE whatever, companies?
    Well, the answer is simple.
    These companies do not invest the pay ins in any money instruments.
    They use your pay-in in paying your leaders. And they use the pay ins of your recruits to pay you. And so on and so forth.
    What do you call this?
    It is called PYRAMIDING. PONZI SCHEME.
    And this is ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, and UNETHICAL, even if your company is not listed in the SEC's watch list.
    -------------------
    So,
    To all those pondering on joining these schemes: DON'T. Better an honest gain than a tainted yield.
    To all those promoting these schemes: Why don't you call your company and ask for a logical explanation. If indeed they use pay ins for the pay out, then the truth shall set you free, but first it will hurt like hell. Php 1,800 does not grow into Php 10,000 like money grows on a tree.
    Remember:
    IF IT DEFIES COMMON SENSE, DENY THE NON-SENSE!
    To all those with extra to invest: I would suggest you park your money in known institutions such as PRULIFE, SUNLIFE, and other legal financial institutions and/or banks, or even real estate. Look for a financial/real estatel consultant, and ask advice from one who studied about money management, and even took licensure exams. Not from an uninitiated recruiter who knows nothing about financial management. Better a slower and lower yield where you keep your soul intact. Than one, who, upon their company's closure, would have to hide their tail between their legs.
    @gabzreal very well said sir. First and foremost, i am very much aware on this business what we had today, yes daghan kaayo scams this days.. please don't take this on a wrong way pero dako gyud kaau ug natabang sa ako ang Piramiding scheme or you did call it a Ponzi scheme it is because 7 times nako naka EXIT ani then every exit we earned 9,000 pesos only. I know dili ingon ana kadako ang ma earned as what you have mentions MILLIONS sa banks. Ginagmay rani amoa for only 1,550 pesos only medyo need lang gyud ug 2 invites. Ngano nakatabang ni nako? Please check my wall JUNELY IVAN LAURENTE, days ago nanganak ako wife sa Mendero hospital and unfortunately na CS siya which it cost as what we did not expect.. Almost 80thou tanan nagasto. Maau gani lang kay naka EXIT ako wife ug ka 3 times then ako naka exit ug 2 times in just month before the operation CS. Maybe kani nga business sir para rani sa dili kaaford ug dinagko nga investment sa mga companys and banks nga g.mentions nimo. Dako kaau ko ug pasalamat ani nga business sir and i just shared it sa mga dili makaaford ug dinagko nga investments.. For only 1,550 do u think e scam na sa admin? Besides kaila ko sa admin and most of the members nangapil namo kay government workers (including military) and students.. Its hard to believe but it"s true. Thanks for reading. To god be the glory.

  8. #1408
    Kani, nangita kog networker na mka tubag ni @gabzreal

  9. #1409
    Quote Originally Posted by BestPartner View Post
    @gabzreal please don't take this on a wrong way pero dako gyud kaau ug natabang sa ako ang Piramiding scheme or you did call it a Ponzi scheme it is because 7 times nako naka EXIT ani then every exit we earned 9,000 pesos only.
    you know pyramiding and Ponzi scheme is Illegal right? so you mean ok ra nimo sir nga ang nka tabang nimo nga money gikan sa illegal nga paagi?...cguro mao nlng na ang way krn... hantak gani ilegal pro kung sa casino legal ang sugal...anyways daghan mo protect ana nga bznz.. i hope daghan pa mka exit..

  10. #1410
    Quote Originally Posted by gabzreal View Post
    you know pyramiding and Ponzi scheme is Illegal right? so you mean ok ra nimo sir nga ang nka tabang nimo nga money gikan sa illegal nga paagi?...cguro mao nlng na ang way krn... hantak gani ilegal pro kung sa casino legal ang sugal...anyways daghan mo protect ana nga bznz.. i hope daghan pa mka exit..
    @gabzreal Yes illegal ang pyramiding sir...para sa BIR laws, it is because wala me nagbayad ug tax. And TAX for what! para lang isulod sa bulsa sa taga government? Dili ta buta bungol para dili ta kahibaw ani..right? Besides naa ko connection sa governments and i know what they are doing and what they are capable of.. Maynalang ni ang pyramiding sir kay dili man mangawat,gihagoan sad ni kay dili basta2x mo convince ug taw para paapilon.. Before ko miapil aning pyramiding group sa TEAM POSITIVE sir the same kaayo ta duha ug mindset..dugay ko na convince sa cousin nako kay hadlok pud ko ma scam. Atleast i know nga naa pa diay group nga ingon ani nga tinood gyud.. Unlike sa uban diha nga mga networking nga daghan ug promises nga makadato ug naa pa gyud produkto nga dili pa gyud epektibo ug mahal pa gyud (gilipot na nako ug apil halos tanan and dili lang ko mag mentions ug names para fair)...ayahay lang ang nakauna, looy ang mao pay pagsugod.. Kaning akoang giapilan dili makadato pero makakwarta pud ginagmay.

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