8And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden. 9And the LORD God called to Adam, and said to him, Where are you? 10And he said, I heard your voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself. 11And he said, Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded you that you should not eat? 12And the man said, The woman whom you gave to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat. 13And the LORD God said to the woman, What is this that you have done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
14And the LORD God said to the serpent, Because you have done this, you are cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; on your belly shall you go, and dust shall you eat all the days of your life:
15And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; it shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel.
The Punishment of Mankind
16To the woman he said, I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception; in sorrow you shall bring forth children; and your desire shall be to your husband, and he shall rule over you.
17And to Adam he said, Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten of the tree, of which I commanded you, saying, You shall not eat of it: cursed is the ground for your sake; in sorrow shall you eat of it all the days of your life;
18Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to you; and you shall eat the herb of the field;
19In the sweat of your face shall you eat bread, till you return to the ground; for out of it were you taken: for dust you are, and to dust shall you return.
20And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
walay mo tubag na pastor dire kay nabusy ug tan-aw ug Aldub..
I say to you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven to men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven to men. 32And whoever speaks a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whoever speaks against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
Sabta ra gud na ninyo brothers ang verse nga akong gi post. In the first place God don't want us to multiply. He created Adam and eve only. So kanang incest inyong giingon. Ang taw ra gyud nagpa uso ana.
Seeking truth on our own is impossible. So many blind preachers and false prophets. Jesus is the way the truth and the life. Therefore we have to live like Jesus once lived.
Ako diko mo tu-o aning Adam ug Eve hasta pod sa Bible. Mas mo make sense paning gikan tas mga murag ung-goy nga taw. Daghan baya nationality naay filipino, japanese etc.
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Yup, Science...
kung ikaw diay brad...unsa im0ha alternative?
kat0ng 1 ka lalaki pa lng ug usa ka babaye ang naa sa kalibutan? nya nanganak na sila...unsa0n man pag daghan sa taw0 at0 tayman kung dili sila mag pr0create (which is for us humans sexually jud, naay lalaki ug naay babaye na mag-usa physically to create new life). Sa kani pa lng na design sa Gino0...sacred na kaay0 and Holy. Ma0 ng *** is supposed to be Sacred and Holy, dili ing0n nga lu0d or unsa pa diha. Kas0 kita mga taw0 kay "fallen", increase in wickedness we viewed it as a mere way to gain sexual pleasure by satisfying our lustful desires.
and tinu0d wla pay Law at0 nga time. Wala pa sa Ginoo gihatag kang Moses ato nga time.
With regards sa Morality...unsa may basis nat0 ani? Unsay immoral ug unsay dili immoral? Natural ang tubag ana kay ang Law.
mao ni one of the flaws sa Atheism ---> ang basis sa Morality unsa lng? common sense? your own personal judgement? your own convenience?
naa k0y nailhan na Cristohan0n sauna..then later on ning-declare nga Atheist na cya kay "na awakened na kuno or search for truth". bayot diay...so naging atheist kay duda ko (opinion ko lng ha) whether consciously or subsconsciously he is finding for a way out to come out from the shell without appearing to be bad or wrong, kay outside of the Bible and Christianity dili man prohibited ang Homosexuality.
ang point dire nak0 is, if you believe in this concept called "Morality" ---> there should and must be an Absolute Basis. Ako, bilang isa ka Kristohanon nga naga-tu0 sa Bibliya. I believe the basis for this is the Law set by no other than the Creator, God Himself.
The problem is kani nga "Law" - Absolute ni. Break 1 and break all. Walay taw0 na makatuman ani 100%. If ang Creator (since He is Just) will strictly impose this ang resulta tanang taw0 padung sa Impyerno. Ni isa sa at0 walay maluwas ani.
Diha nagsud ang "Grace" - Grasya ---something that we do not even deserve. Mao ng naay manluluwas, redeemer. Mao ng rason kung ngan0ng naay Krist0 nga gi-lansang sa Krus.
In a way, I would say that it is God's design of giving man a 2nd Chance to continue to exist and share in His glory.
If He willed it to destroy everything and then create a new universe which is pure once again (all of creation) that same moment that "Sin" occurred, entered humanity, its not beyond His power. He chose not too for reasons nga cyay mkabu0t kay cya man ang Creator. Mao pud na ang Loving side sa Gino0.
Last edited by silentnuker; 09-12-2015 at 06:22 AM.
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