Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

[SioDenz]

then e post ang verse ang content mismo ha then hatagi ko sa imong interpretation aning imong gi ingon nga true faith. kani imong tubag usa ka matang nasab sa lihay.

ako nasad usbon ang pangutana ha...ika 4th time nani na pangutana

UNSAON DI IE PAG ILA SA TRUE FAITH?

Imung unang pangutana UNSAON pag ILA nya if hatagan kag Tubag gikan sa BIBLIYA manguatana nsad ka kana IMUNG interpretasyon... haha

Lihay pa more brad..

UNSA man jud gusto nimu..ikaw ra cge pangutana..haha

I already give you my answer several times, You DID NOT even answer even ONCE...haha..

Nya ikaw cge ingun ako nilihay..haha

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Imung unang pangutana UNSAON pag ILA nya if hatagan kag Tubag gikan sa BIBLIYA manguatana nsad ka kana IMUNG interpretasyon... haha

Lihay pa more brad..

UNSA man jud gusto nimu..ikaw ra cge pangutana..haha

tubaga nalang gud sio pag lima na jud ni nimong lihay ka simpol ra ana akong pangutana...ako nasad usbon ang pangutana ha...

ayg reklamo..wala pa gani ko nimo tubaga mangutana naka..thats unfair Lol

UNSAON DI IE PAG ILA SA TRUE FAITH?

[Jhared]

Based on the Bible.. We can determine but we cannot JUDGE

Kuwang nsad imung Comprehension...

When you Kill, I can say ITS WRONG based on what is Written on the BIBLE. But I CANNOT JUDGE you if you have Sinned in the Eyes of GOD.

When i say You dont have True FAITH, it because of what i saw in your DEEDS which is based on the BIBLE, BUT I cannot JUDGE you that You Lost the Glory of God or You will Not be saved because only God knows.

Judging is different From saying its wrong based on the Guidelines written in the Bible.

so when you say i dont have true faith, you're just saying based on your whim, but not really what the lord thinks maybe? then why should anyone listen to what you have to say, if what you're saying is merely based on your own personal interpretation?

[jarves]

Based on the Bible.. We can determine but we cannot JUDGE

Kuwang nsad imung Comprehension...

When you Kill, I can say ITS WRONG based on what is Written on the BIBLE. But I CANNOT JUDGE you if you have Sinned in the Eyes of GOD.

When i say You dont have True FAITH, it because of what i saw in your DEEDS which is based on the BIBLE, BUT I cannot JUDGE you that You Lost the Glory of God or You will Not be saved because only God knows.

Judging is different From saying its wrong based on the Guidelines written in the Bible.

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I think youre NOT a catholic. RC says salvation is FAITH and(+) Works.

Most RC defenders here that i have discussed Before Dont USE the word TOGETHER.. Most says Good Works is a Separate Requirements. I think you are the ONE who sounds Like a PROTESTANT haha

good one bro..

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he sounds like a Protestant than a Catholic.

Geez! You do not unerstand. I just said Faith AND Works! Please read again. It is Faith and Works. Faith is required. Works is required. That is what they meant on separate requirement, that faith do not necessarily produce good works. if they really did say that. Bunal Sio!

Good one bro!

[SioDenz]

tubaga nalang gud sio pag lima na jud ni nimong lihay...ako nasad usbon ang pangutana ha...

UNSAON DI IE PAG ILA SA TRUE FAITH?

Ayaw nlan tah ana imung style nga way unod bro, adtu nlan na gamita sa uban nimung ka diskusyon.. gasgas na kaayu na nga style...kana bitaw cge ihap sa pangutana..


You ask Unsaon pag ILA.. should i Quote the EXACT question you have? the First ONE? I answer you with verse nya karun Gi USAB nimu imung Pangutana - INTERPRETATION NASAD? so cge lang ka PANGUTANA ani...haha

ADTU lan na gamita sa uban..

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Geez! You do not unerstand. I just said Faith AND Works! Please read again. It is Faith and Works. Faith is required. Works is required. That is what they meant on separate requirement, that faith do not necessarily produce good works. if they really did say that. Bunal Sio!

Good one bro!

when you say AND, what does it MEAN? + or -->


Does it mean good works is a SEPARATE requirements or NOT.

Or they Go together as ONE?

I think we are on a good direction here..

[jarves]

SEEMS like the catholic belief and the Protestant #2 is similar?

Also,
Maybe you need to Differentiate and clarify the FAITH alone belief of the Born Again..

FAITH alone can MEAN:
1. Good Works and Faith is ONE thats why saying Faith alone is grammatically correct since they are One.
or
2. FAITH ALONE means, as long as i believe in God, I can INTENTIONALLY Do bad things afterwards and i will still be saved.


You need to ask them what they really believe Because i think our belief is just the same its just that we use different WORD to describe it...

It is a catholic belief, you protestant just hijacked it and reword it so not to sound catholic. Your logic is full of error. You keep running around the bush. If they are one then Work Alone can be used also, pero ngano wala man gigamit na sa protestante? Bunal Sio! I know what they believe because I attend their service and join their groups.

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Ayaw nlan tah ana imung style nga way unod bro, adtu nlan na gamita sa uban nimung ka diskusyon.. gasgas na kaayu na nga style...kana bitaw cge ihap sa pangutana..


You ask Unsaon pag ILA.. should i Quote the EXACT question you have? the First ONE? I answer you with verse nya karun Gi USAB nimu imung Pangutana - INTERPRETATION NASAD? so cge lang ka PANGUTANA ani...haha

ADTU lan na gamita sa uban..

bang panis imo jud gipili na dili ka motubag ngano kaha sio? hadlok ka matuk-an rasad sa imong kaugalingon pulong kung imong tubagon? kibaw kung kahibaw ka na kung imong tubagon ang pangutana. ma momo nasad ka.

karon suwayan gihapon nako kay murag firm man jud ka aning imong TRUE FAITH...ako nasad usbon ang pangutana

UNSAON DI IE PAG ILA SA TRUE FAITH?

ato raning ibalik ba para naay basis ang tanan ngano nag sige kog pangutana ana akong pangutana pero dili jud nimo tubagon

So thats how you understand FAITH?

FAITH is NOT JUST MEAN BELIEVE.

FAITH is ang PAGKINABUHI ni KRISTO... TRUE FAITH diay nang di musunod sa Sugo sa imung GITUHUOAN? dunay diay gi ingun si KRISTO nga if Dunay kay Pagtoo, OK ra nga MUTAGO ka sa langob nya mag ampo ra?

mabawa gud sa imung pagsabot sa word FAITH...

alangan man sad ug dili nako ihapon na sige man lang kog lihay lihayan unya kung tuyokon nako para ibalik ang pangutana masuko kay sige rakog balik2x mao na ako nalang ihapon

[SioDenz]

so when you say i dont have true faith, you're just saying based on your whim, but not really what the lord thinks maybe? then why should anyone listen to what you have to say, if what you're saying is merely based on your own personal interpretation?

NOT all are interpretation. example KILLING is wrong based on 10 Commandments, I dont think it needs interpretation when you say you KILL someone ITS WRONG.

Some are interpreted based on the Guidelines we read from the Bible. mao raman nay allowed natu..

And also, Most of our belief is BASED on interpretation. RC doctrines are also based mostly on interpretation.

[Jhared]

NOT all are interpretation. example KILLING is wrong based on 10 Commandments, I dont think it needs interpretation when you say you KILL someone ITS WRONG.

Some are interpreted based on the Guidelines we read from the Bible. mao raman nay allowed natu..

And also, Most of our belief is BASED on interpretation. RC doctrines are also based mostly on interpretation.

if you need a bible to know that killing is wrong then something is wrong with you

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if most are based on interpretations.. then most should be taken with a grain of salt..

[Tetrad]

watch nasd ta video be kay murag laay man