Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

[SioDenz]

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people who rely on the premise that their faith alone can save them are just looking to excuse themselves from helping others whenever time calls for them to do so.. perhaps they went in too deep looking for answers in the bible that they ignored the fact that their jesus, after telling the parable of the good samaritan, said that you need to love your neighbors also inorder to inherit eternal life.. im not even a believer but i know that for a fact..

Faith will produce Good Works, They are ONE and Not separate.. So when the Born Again says Faith ALONE is basically CORRECT since Faith and Good works ARE ONE...

[slabs17]

Faith will produce Good Works, They are ONE and Not separate.. So when the Born Again says Faith ALONE is basically CORRECT since Faith and Good works ARE ONE...

nakabuhat naka ani sio? helping others?

[jarves]

So When did you hear SOMEONE says, I need Fire and Oxygen and Heat and Fuel and Etc etc to Cook my FOOD?

i think you DID not Understand what Im implying

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WRONG, you cannot Have TRUE FAITH if WALA ka kahibalo KINSA imung gituhoan

Seems you dont know What is FAITH..


Faith Will Produce Good Works. Unsaon nimu pag BUHAT ug tarung if WALA ka kahiblo Kinsa imung Gituhuoan, UNSA ang Gusto sa imung Gituhoan


FAITH IS NOT PLAINLY EQUAL to BELIEVE... its a LIVING FAITH, TRUE FAITH that can be seen thru Works.

True Faith is a band from the 90's! What ever faith you have, true faith, saving faith, small faith, big faith, moving faith, fast faith, false faith, little faith if it has no work means it is a DEAD faith. It is NEVER alone. Fire ALONE cannot become a fire unless there is heat, fuel and oxygen. It is never alone. If it is alone then it is self sufficient and self sustaining. It is our response to God's grace. Produce man og work or separate man ang work, the fact is that it is still needed. Works without faith is useless. Faith without works is a dead faith. How difficult is that? We are judged according to our work not on our faith. Nowhere in the bible does the lord said that "I will judge you based on your faith now because it created good works". Tagae ko ana nga verse kai mobalhin ko sa inyo religion, pulihan pa nako imo pastor, ako mag una una ug preach ana. You have the wrong mindset passed down to you by your pastor saying the catholic teaches "work your way to salvation" or "catholics do not have faith, but base merit by performance." Show me an official catholic document saying that.

[jarves]

So When did you hear SOMEONE says, I need Fire and Oxygen and Heat and Fuel and Etc etc to Cook my FOOD?

i think you DID not Understand what Im implying

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WRONG, you cannot Have TRUE FAITH if WALA ka kahibalo KINSA imung gituhoan

Seems you dont know What is FAITH..


Faith Will Produce Good Works. Unsaon nimu pag BUHAT ug tarung if WALA ka kahiblo Kinsa imung Gituhuoan, UNSA ang Gusto sa imung Gituhoan


FAITH IS NOT PLAINLY EQUAL to BELIEVE... its a LIVING FAITH, TRUE FAITH that can be seen thru Works.

Ang babaye produces baby. But does it produce baby alone? Dli! She needs another person, a man.

You are fund of making things ALONE. Man was alone but God created a partner for him so he will NOT BE ALONE. The Body NEEDS the SPIRIT as the body ALONE is DEAD. A Woman NEEDS a man in order to produce a child. A woman ALONE cannot do that. Faith without works is DEAD as what james said, that is why he compares it with body and soul. A soul does not produce body nor a body produces a soul.

[jarves]

James 2 does not say about GOOD works as a Separate Requirements sa Salvation.

James 2 proves that True FAITH and Good Works go hand in hand, they are Not separate but ONE. So when you say you are saved because of your FAITH, it means Faith which will Produce Good works.

Theres No "Faith alone" in the Bible but if you analyze it, its still techinically correct since Good works are manifestation of True Faith.

it not pakapin, But the Manifestation of your FAITH in God. Effects, Result, etc etc..

mao na libog ang mga protestante kai naa uban secta mo ingon na sa faith alone kai faith ra jud, naa uban moingon na faith and works (which is catholic) pero in order not to sound like a catholic they will stick to faith alone pero ila meaning is faith and works. mao na libog usahay ang protestante.

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thats where Born again ang RC people have disagreement with - its the interpretation. Based on the comments here, i think all have the same idea but we differ on HOW we presented our ideas and interpretations.

Sauna pa panahon sa mga early church fathers naa different opinion pero unlike protestants wala sila nag buot buot ug buhat ug secta para barugan nga sakto ni ilaha. They are still submissive to the church. Pag abot ra sa protestant rebellion didto na nagkagubot.

[Jhared]

Faith will produce Good Works, They are ONE and Not separate.. So when the Born Again says Faith ALONE is basically CORRECT since Faith and Good works ARE ONE...

A person can hide in a cave all his life and do nothing but pray..

[buchokoy]

Faith will produce Good Works, They are ONE and Not separate.. So when the Born Again says Faith ALONE is basically CORRECT since Faith and Good works ARE ONE...

James 2:26, So then, as the body without the spirit is dead, also faith without actions is dead.

This should close the issue. Does the body produce the spirit?

[SioDenz]

James 2:26, So then, as the body without the spirit is dead, also faith without actions is dead.

This should close the issue. Does the body produce the spirit?

Yeah, its basically my Point that Faith and Good Works is ONE and NOT separate

Theres No verse in the BIBLE that say or Jesus sad there are instance that YOU will have TRUE faith But cannot be seen on your actions. thats why when people say i have FAITH, you can tell if its True Faith based on their Action, The reason for that is Because - THEY ARE NOT SEPARATE

Now question, So you Believe Good works is a SEPARATE Requirements aside from FAITH?

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A person can hide in a cave all his life and do nothing but pray..

So thats how you understand FAITH?

FAITH is NOT JUST MEAN BELIEVE.

FAITH is ang PAGKINABUHI ni KRISTO... TRUE FAITH diay nang di musunod sa Sugo sa imung GITUHUOAN? dunay diay gi ingun si KRISTO nga if Dunay kay Pagtoo, OK ra nga MUTAGO ka sa langob nya mag ampo ra?

mabawa gud sa imung pagsabot sa word FAITH...

[slabs17]

So thats how you understand FAITH?

FAITH is NOT JUST MEAN BELIEVE.

FAITH is ang PAGKINABUHI ni KRISTO... TRUE FAITH diay nang di musunod sa Sugo sa imung GITUHUOAN? dunay diay gi ingun si KRISTO nga if Dunay kay Pagtoo, OK ra nga MUTAGO ka sa langob nya mag ampo ra?

mabawa gud sa imung pagsabot sa word FAITH...

sio unsaon di ie pagsabot sa true faith?

[Jhared]

So thats how you understand FAITH?

FAITH is NOT JUST MEAN BELIEVE.

lol.. your grammar sucks..

FAITH is ang PAGKINABUHI ni KRISTO... TRUE FAITH diay nang di musunod sa Sugo sa imung GITUHUOAN? dunay diay gi ingun si KRISTO nga if Dunay kay Pagtoo, OK ra nga MUTAGO ka sa langob nya mag ampo ra?

mabawa gud sa imung pagsabot sa word FAITH...

true faith? murag banda haha.. as far as i know the Thread Started did not specify as to the kind of faith he was talking about, but based on the fact alone that he compared it to work, then the reader can only assume that's it's entirely separate, therefore it's gotta be faith alone, at least that's how i understood it,.. cguro mabaw na para nimo, but im just trying to relate to the topic..