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  1. #101

    Quote Originally Posted by rafee View Post
    Willingness to change, repentance etc... are all about God's teaching for us to be saved but what about their personal feelings? Does it count ? (the fact that they were not able to choose the day when God created them)

    I see it more sinful act when a gay married to an opposite s*x human being just to satisfy the Law of God (as written and interpreted by most religious people) where he/she can't fully give the Love to that person and that LOVE is God's requirement as well.
    (No universal love here or love one another.. We're talking about marriage love. thnx)
    Quote Originally Posted by rickflag View Post
    Huh? Ang idea diri sa uban nga kung mag repent lang ka moduol ni God, your sexual orientation will change? Wa baya na tuyua nga nabayot/tbo sila. Di ko motuo anang influenced sa environment kay daghan ko nailhan nga bata pa gani kaau bayot na. It's their in born sexual orientation and I don't think it's their fault. Kinsa may gusto ana nga life by the way?
    as i said sa previous nako nga tungod nga bondage ta sa decay (due to the curse triggered by the sin of Adam and Eve), expected na jud ning mga ingon ani nga mga unusual nga brain wiring sa uban nga mga taw that is why naay mga homosexuals, another factor is environment, another factor nga widely accepted is naabuso na sila sa una, we really don't know kung unsa jud ang exact nga reason kay wala man jud nadiscover nga naay gay gene....

    and about sa pagduol kay God nga machange ilang sexual orientation, well, diha makita kung unsa kagamhanan nga makapausab jud ang Ginoo sa usa ka homosexual or even other sinners nga dili related sa sexuality, mao nay giingon nga ang Christianity is not difficult, but it is impossible!...but with God, all things are possible....daghan jud ko ug nakita nga testimonies jud about ani nga narealize nila with the help of God nga dili jud na siya designed originally, affected lang jud sa sila sa bondage of decay and then naliberate na sila sa effects sa decay..

    i hope i am not making any offense on the lgbt people, im just stating explanations on our side on how we interpret this kind of a sensitive issue
    Last edited by rics zalved; 07-01-2015 at 08:16 AM.

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Romeojin View Post
    No word of "gay" sa Bible but rather "homosexual" and is synonymous na as gay, lesbian, bayot, tomboy. It doesnt mean na they need real *** with the same *** to become homosexual,bayot but to the act itself na practicing pagka bayot/tomboy na they prefer the same ***, make it a sin already.

    Because there are groups trying to justify that its ok to be gay in thoughts but be abstinence. but I think its still wrong cause homosexual are dressing like the opposite *** it would be hard to distinguish kinsa nagpractice ug M2M dinha

    Even kung naay truth ang justification of gay na pwede but with abstinence; kung gi allowed sila for gay marriage. i think wa man siguro marriage na may abstinence plus sodomy is a sin.
    Boss disagree ko nimo sa term Homosexuality ang meaning ana is Parihas ug *** for sexual or romantic relationship most likely, not necessarily nga gay or lesbian kay na bias na ang Ginoo ana ... its equal to all nga ning commit anang butanga ... mao na ang pagsabot nako sa gi ingon sa Bible ... mao na nahitabo sa Sodom and Gomorrah .. nag unay na ( ma bayot or ma dili ) mao gi silutan sa Ginoo.


    Unlike mo ingon ta ug Homosexual people kana kay it refers to lesbian and gay .....

    Naa pud biya nga ma attract ka ug same *** bisan dili ka homosexual ..

    "Not all of the terms that have been used to describe same-*** sexuality are synonyms for the modern term homosexuality"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Termin..._homosexuality
    Last edited by amingb; 07-01-2015 at 08:13 AM.

  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by rics zalved View Post
    as i said sa previous nako nga tungod nga bondage ta sa decay (due to the curse triggered by the sin of Adam and Eve), expected na jud ning mga ingon ani nga mga unusual nga brain wiring sa uban nga mga taw that is why naay mga homosexuals, another factor is environment, another factor nga widely accepted is naabuso na sila sa una, we really don't know kung unsa jud ang exact nga reason kay wala man jud nadiscover nga naay gay gene....

    and about sa pagduol kay God nga machange ilang sexual orientation, well, diha makita kung unsa kagamhanan nga makapausab jud ang Ginoo sa usa ka homosexual or even other sinners nga dili related sa sexuality, mao nay giingon nga ang Christianity is not difficult, but it is impossible!...but with God, all things are possible....daghan jud ko ug nakita nga testimonies jud about ani
    Dili mausab ang imong pagka bayot kay mao naman na ang imong genes but ma correct ang imong sexual orientation of mo duol kas Ginoo ... ma apply na nimo ang abstinence and self control and you start to like opposite *** and getting married ... Ginoo rajud ang Tambal anang Sakita ...

    Naa koy kauban sa Church ana Bayot jud sia as in ... But with the power sa Ginoo bayot gihapon siya pero Lalaki na ug pangutok .. Church Leader pajud ug daghan na ug mga Anak ...

  4. #104
    It's very difficult when a country is already made synonymous with freedom, being branded as the land of the free. The US is in dilemma but it opted not please everyone and eventually resorted with the term equal rights for everyone within its folds. It is sinful in terms of religious point of view but it is made tailored precisely for orders of the laws of the land. Well man is always responsible with his actions and should either suffer or enjoy the consequences.

  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by rafee View Post
    Willingness to change, repentance etc... are all about God's teaching for us to be saved but what about their personal feelings? Does it count ? (the fact that they were not able to choose the day when God created them)
    The cost of following Christ is great. This is something that ALL WHO CLAIM to be Christians should understand. Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. Men must deny his sinful nature, his personal feelings that would go against God. Paul also said, I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me. To a true Christian, it is no longer "I" or "me" but it is now "Christ" for Christ is his all in all.

  6. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by BetterPhilippines2015 View Post
    Respect rajud ang problema diri. For me it doesn't matter if you married a dog as long as you didn't step on my rights and vice versa. OA ra kaayo ang uban. Times changed.Adapt or be left behind.
    LOL.. ok.. I may not see this in my lifetime, at least the legalization of it, but it would be interesting to know where it will lead mankind.

  7. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Dili mausab ang imong pagka bayot kay mao naman na ang imong genes but ma correct ang imong sexual orientation of mo duol kas Ginoo ... ma apply na nimo ang abstinence and self control and you start to like opposite *** and getting married ... Ginoo rajud ang Tambal anang Sakita ...

    Naa koy kauban sa Church ana Bayot jud sia as in ... But with the power sa Ginoo bayot gihapon siya pero Lalaki na ug pangutok .. Church Leader pajud ug daghan na ug mga Anak ...
    nakabantay ko ug ing-ana sa tv bro. sa jessica soho man tingali to.
    minyo siya pero bayot siya. during sa iyang kaminyoon kay nakapanglaki jud siya.
    pero understanding jud kau ang iya asawa. gitabangan siya nga mausab siya.
    nagpa-counseling sila nya attend sila ug church activities.
    sa kadugayan kay nausab na jud siya although the way siya molihuk kay bayoton gihapon.
    karon kay active na kau sila sa church activities.

    mao na nga maka-ingon ko nga even if you were born a gay, you can still live as a man if you want.
    and doing that would be easier if you ask the help of god.

    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    LOL.. ok.. I may not see this in my lifetime, at least the legalization of it, but it would be interesting to know where it will lead mankind.
    if that happens, it only means that the evolution of man is going on a complete cycle.
    men become monkeys again!

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by dulasnom View Post
    nakabantay ko ug ing-ana sa tv bro. sa jessica soho man tingali to.
    minyo siya pero bayot siya. during sa iyang kaminyoon kay nakapanglaki jud siya.
    pero understanding jud kau ang iya asawa. gitabangan siya nga mausab siya.
    nagpa-counseling sila nya attend sila ug church activities.
    sa kadugayan kay nausab na jud siya although the way siya molihuk kay bayoton gihapon.
    karon kay active na kau sila sa church activities.

    mao na nga maka-ingon ko nga even if you were born a gay, you can still live as a man if you want.
    and doing that would be easier if you ask the help of god.
    Mao lagi tinood jud na ... pero mo kiay2x gihapon mo lakaw oi ... saon nga mao naman jud na ang physical nila ... parihas raman nang bayot ug straight makasasala ... mga luod ug binohatan ... Pero isa rajud ang Solution balik nata sa Ginoo ...

  9. #109
    sakto ka bro.
    and as i've said in my previous post, being gay is not a sin, it's the act and not the person.
    bisag bayot siya pero nagpakabuhi siya as lalaki, then wala siya makasala sa iyang pagka-bayot.

  10. #110
    for me i dont gve a fck if mag unay ang pareha.... we all have freewill... everyone should respect it... regardless if against sa ilaha belief... as long as wala gitamakan ilahang tawhanong katungod... religious rights is not a human rights...

    it shouldn't be an issue if we only know how to respect free will..

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