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  1. #131

    Quote Originally Posted by Crinkles11 View Post
    MYTH

    China bullies its neighbors and has created recent tensions in East Asia.

    REALITY

    The “Middle Kingdom” is self-centered and not an aggressive power. The last time China fought a war was in 1979 when Chinese troops briefly invaded northern Vietnam as part of the Cold War Sino-Soviet rivalry. China opposes the use of force and advocates peaceful resolution of international disputes.

    China is a defensive power and will react strongly to safeguard its interests when provoked. Due to its humiliating history after the Opium War (1839–42), China is particularly sensitive to issues concerning sovereignty and territory. While some point to China’s seemingly assertive measures in recent years in the East China Sea and South China Sea, few raise serious concerns about rising nationalism in some of China’s neighbors and what these countries have done to trigger or escalate tensions. It is simplistic to blame China for current tensions in Asia. For example, Japan’s sharp turn to the right politically and its adamant refusal to acknowledge the dispute over Diaoyu/Senkaku islands are at least equally, if not more, responsible for heightened rows between Japan and China. The U.S. “pivot” or rebalancing toward Asia that smacks of a strategy to encircle China has also emboldened countries such as Japan and the Philippines to ruffle China’s feathers.

    China’s foreign policy is essentially reactive. The Chinese foreign ministry is nicknamed a “fire department,” always rushing to respond to foreign affairs crises one after another. China’s primary interest is to maintain a peaceful regional and international environment so as to concentrate on domestic development. It has enough problems at home and does not look for trouble abroad.
    cge gud myth man kaha

  2. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by <SMILE> View Post
    Yeah
    Zhiqun Zhu----- sounds like Chinese.

    Dr. Zhiqun Zhu is currently Director of the China Institute and Associate Professor of Political Science and International Relations at Bucknell University in Pennsylvania.

    Good patriotic views of a Communist ruled China guy,
    let's hear once again from a pinoys patriotic view towards the Communist ruled China.
    China in Africa: The Real Story

    China in Africa - Council on Foreign Relations

    It

    Dili ko moingon ug 100percent tinuod ni ha.

  3. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    Yup i know the link is not reliable.. But decided to discuss some if those issues here. Its not a waste brad but rather to stimulate and practice our minds/wits when engaging on healthy discussions.
    Yes I agree bro.. but I admit I'm worried on how things being discussed when the issue is not real.

    It's like an issue "IF" you are to live in the moon..blah blah...
    ..... then the nxt thing Filipino will do is discussing it as IF they can live..

    Then other countries like Russia, and US does an experiment if its livable then start discussing...

    See the difference? Filipino becomes an instant astronaut, lawyer, scientist etc... without doing the right thing... do you still think its healthy?

  4. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by Crinkles11 View Post
    The economic slowdown in China coupled with the arrival of new players in Africa may bring to an end China’s outsized FDI flows to Africa. In addition, China was willing, at least until recently, to take greater investment risks in Africa than most Western companies. Following attacks on Chinese operations in Ethiopia’s Ogaden region, Sudan’s Southern Kordofan region and the need to evacuate 35,000 Chinese workers from Libya, there are signs that China is reassessing the degree of risk it is willing to take in Africa. Nevertheless, China will remain an important source of FDI in Africa for many years to come.

    China

    Well, let us see.

  5. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by rafee View Post
    Yes I agree bro.. but I admit I'm worried on how things being discussed when the issue is not real.

    It's like an issue "IF" you are to live in the moon..blah blah...
    ..... then the nxt thing Filipino will do is discussing it as IF they can live..

    Then other countries like Russia, and US does an experiment if its livable then start discussing...

    See the difference? Filipino becomes an instant astronaut, lawyer, scientist etc... without doing the right thing... do you still think its healthy?
    Let's stick to the facts here: China's aggressions on disputed island may lead to withdrawal of investment or investors or boycotting china's services/products.

    These scenario may be far from reality but if the situation will get worse, it will go side ways for China and this is what we are talking here; tendencies and situational implications if the issue will get worse. China will be the big bad wolf and no one like the big bad wolf, ever. Everyone deserves and by right entitled by his ideas and opinion here in istorya, not necessarily you will take it as facts and or "experts" opinions. Chill, if you are worried how things are discussed here, no one's going to bat an eye in the real world to say the least, this is just a sharing of opinions and ideas.

    The thought(s) that were entertained here: IF whether the world's economy can stand without China, and if ever things will go sour, and whether is it possible or impossible to do as what the thread suggests; withdraw foreign investments in mainland China. Can the world's economy survives? Same goes to China.

    There are lots of "ifs", but isn't that the most intriguing thing we love to discuss? Those "IFs".. not that we are establishing something to preach but just a mere "discussion".

  6. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    Let's stick to the facts here: China's aggressions on disputed island may lead to withdrawal of investment or investors or boycotting china's services/products.

    These scenario may be far from reality but if the situation will get worse, it will go side ways for China and this is what we are talking here; tendencies and situational implications if the issue will get worse. China will be the big bad wolf and no one like the big bad wolf, ever. Everyone deserves and by right entitled by his ideas and opinion here in istorya, not necessarily you will take it as facts and or "experts" opinions. Chill, if you are worried how things are discussed here, no one's going to bat an eye in the real world to say the least, this is just a sharing of opinions and ideas.

    The thought(s) that were entertained here: IF whether the world's economy can stand without China, and if ever things will go sour, and whether is it possible or impossible to do as what the thread suggests; withdraw foreign investments in mainland China. Can the world's economy survives? Same goes to China.

    There are lots of "ifs", but isn't that the most intriguing thing we love to discuss? Those "IFs".. not that we are establishing something to preach but just a mere "discussion".
    Yes I know.. my point is: is this the right forum of your "IFs"? of course not... this post is not for real.. simple...

    "withdrawal of investment or investors or boycotting china's services/products"
    do believe on that?

    See Dell? HP? Apple? Microsoft? They are NOT government owned businesses... Why would they do crazy boycott or withdrawals of investments when the cost of materials and labor in China are far more cheaper than U.S.?
    I can't talk to you more than these things...

    Personal thoughts during discussion (as you said) are great but we need more accurate things like post or thread that are legit so everyone could see the beauty of everyone's brain... anyway, I coudn't go on anymore.. thank you for the time...

  7. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by rafee View Post
    Yes I know.. my point is: is this the right forum of your "IFs"? of course not... this post is not for real.. simple...


    do believe on that?

    See Dell? HP? Apple? Microsoft? They are NOT government owned businesses... Why would they do crazy boycott or withdrawals of investments when the cost of materials and labor in China are far more cheaper than U.S.?
    I can't talk to you more than these things...

    Personal thoughts during discussion (as you said) are great but we need more accurate things like post or thread that are legit so everyone could see the beauty of everyone's brain... anyway, I coudn't go on anymore.. thank you for the time...
    It is because you simply based your conclusion on the links that the TS gave on the first place which is unreliable. But the situation is real and while you said this is not the place for IFs, well this is the place of more than IF since we somewhat tried to relate the possible outcomes of what could have been if the situation get worse. Don't you like to discuss these things, these, if will eventually happen can affect our lives in general. For the thing like "boycotting" there are attempts, yes, our own country as well as vietnam and some tried desperately but I know thats futile considering the fact that China still leads the cheapest manufacturing country. So what you mentioned on Dell, HP, Microsoft, Apple, etc would be like impossible. But there are other companies who has actually shown less interest in China, not because of the tension but merely for business perspectives. There are different reasons for this withdrawal, and one might like to add into consideration the tension they create in the disputed areas/islands.

    String of foreign companies withdraw from China | gbtimes.com
    https://thenanfang.com/foreign-compa...hina-en-masse/

    If the situation will get worse, don't you think it will not take a toll on top asian economies? - This is the IF you dont want to talk about, but this seems like a serious matter looming at the horizon if indeed things gets out of hand. (E.G. Japan vs China,Vietnam vs China, Phils vs China)
    Last edited by yhokz101; 06-03-2015 at 11:55 PM.

  8. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    It is because you simply based your conclusion on the links that the TS gave on the first place which is unreliable. But the situation is real and while you said this is not the place for IFs, well this is the place of more than IF since we somewhat tried to relate the possible outcomes of what could have been if the situation get worse. Don't you like to discuss these things, these, if will eventually happen can affect our lives in general. For the thing like "boycotting" there are attempts, yes, our own country as well as vietnam and some tried desperately but I know thats futile considering the fact that China still leads the cheapest manufacturing country. So what you mentioned on Dell, HP, Microsoft, Apple, etc would be like impossible. But there are other companies who has actually shown less interest in China, not because of the tension but merely for business perspectives. There are different reasons for this withdrawal, and one might like to add into consideration the tension they create in the disputed areas/islands.

    String of foreign companies withdraw from China | gbtimes.com
    https://thenanfang.com/foreign-compa...hina-en-masse/

    If the situation will get worse, don't you think it will not take a toll on top asian economies? - This is the IF you dont want to talk about, but this seems like a serious matter looming at the horizon if indeed things gets out of hand. (E.G. Japan vs China,Vietnam vs China, Phils vs China)

    Pero ang rason dili ang BINATA nga boycottboycott boss noh? Ang gyud nang negosyo naay mosulod naa pod mogawas...Bisan diha sa Pinas naa pod mmanira nga kompaniya naa pod bag o mosulod.

  9. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by Crinkles11 View Post
    Kun ang atong goberno dili pa itoy2x sa US dugay na ning nasulbad kay ang China ganahan makigsabot2x sa Pinas ra WAY LABOT US. Base sa akong nahibaw.

    Kun dili pa cguro bati ug image ang China saunang panahon wa gyud ning problemaha ron.



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    Quote Originally Posted by <SMILE> View Post
    Yeah
    Zhiqun Zhu----- sounds like Chinese.

    Dr. Zhiqun Zhu is currently Director of the China Institute and Associate Professor of Political Science and International Relations at Bucknell University in Pennsylvania.

    Good patriotic views of a Communist ruled China guy,
    let's hear once again from a pinoys patriotic view towards the Communist ruled China.
    hahaha Zhiqun Zhu!!! sounds family?
    Last edited by MrTuthaus; 06-04-2015 at 08:49 AM.

  10. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by Crinkles11 View Post
    Pero ang rason dili ang BINATA nga boycottboycott boss noh? Ang gyud nang negosyo naay mosulod naa pod mogawas...Bisan diha sa Pinas naa pod mmanira nga kompaniya naa pod bag o mosulod.
    Kanus-a man na binata ang pag boycott if given the right ang justifiable reason? It does not mean nga lisod binata ug does not make sense. Why nag attempt ug boycott ang uban organizations/groups of people? It is something of a protest, and you can see the reasons. Maybe not for now but China will continue their aggression, i can bet there will be steps needed to protest their stupidness and arrogance. This would be their undoing. Business come and go as always, but it will be one more reason to consider withdrawing businesses/ties (private/semi-govt) company from China. I hope dli ka ma apektohan pd diha hnuon sa imo work.

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