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    Quote Originally Posted by slabs17 View Post
    Di lang jud ka kadawat nga mao nay side effect sa mga user.

    Gikan rasad nimo ni ha. YOU ARE NOT MEDICAL PERSON. kinsa man intawn kang mag hisgot2x ug medical aning marijuana? Tabla rata ani ug nagpatambal ug albularyo aning kalakiha.

    Ug gikan lang gihapon nimo ni ha GEORGE WASHINGTON unsay tan-aw nimo sa tanan tawo? Parehas ni GEORGE ug panghuna huna? Daghang buang sa pinas. Maka simhot lang ganig usa ka takob sa tanduay manghagis na. Samot pasuyopon pa nimo. Gikan nimo na tanan ediya nga dili parehas tanan ug pangisip naay daghan nga tandugonon na kaayog kartiyo usa ka kuhit lng praning na
    im a licensed nurse since 2006, my specialty has been medical surgical... and its not only me.. there are many people supporting this, even health secretary ona of doh supported this. pot has already undergone medical scrutiny, check JAMA, hopefully you can comprehend medical jargons.,.. dont shoot the messnger, there are countless resources, both positive and negative. my profession allows me to have multiple access. but you have internet on your side. ad hominem is not really a sign of an educated person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slabs17 View Post
    Lol nindota source you tube. Kita sad kag docu kabahin sa mermaid? You tube sad to
    or access it on cnn website, nonetheless its the same video... 1+1 in youtube is the same 1+1 in schools. you are phukin retard for attacking the medium of which the message is delivered, instead of judging on the merit of the message itself.
    Last edited by emow; 06-01-2015 at 06:14 PM.

  2. #522

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    Quote Originally Posted by emow View Post
    im a licensed nurse since 2006, my specialty has been medical surgical... and its not only me.. there are many people supporting this, even health secretary ona of doh supported this. pot has already undergone medical scrutiny, check JAMA, hopefully you can comprehend medical jargons.,.. dont shoot the messnger, there are countless resources, both positive and negative. my profession allows me to have multiple access. but you have internet on your side. ad hominem is not really a sign of an educated person.

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    or access it on cnn website, nonetheless its the same video... 1+1 in youtube is the same 1+1 in schools. you are phukin retard for attacking the medium of which the message is delivered, instead of judging on the merit of the message itself.
    Asa man ko ng add hominems ani? Really license nurse ka? Ug mao nay imo profession karon? Gi unsa nimo pag pasar sa mga medical check ups? Drug tests gi unsa nimo pag pasar? Ad homins meam personal attacks? Asa ana kanang no ingon kog buang? Kay tinuod bitaw makabuang na ad hominems na noon. Ikaduha wala pamam siguro ko ni direkta sulti nimo na mao ka Lol

    Nga ngano mag agad man ko ana imong source. Naay daghang expert dinha ay sa gobyerno ug sa WHO sila nag tuon kabahin ana. Ug kana wala nila supportahiba nga lakang. Kana nagpasabot lng kungubsa gyuy ikahatag nga dlkadaog ani sa pangisip

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    Kani imo style mura ni siya ug kato nag promote kayaka cause daw ug aksidente. Mao e ban nalang ang motor. Unsay labot sa motor nga nagpuyo raman na diha. Ayaw na e drive diba way aksedente mahitabo. Meaning pasabot nimo kung mayabag ka dili na tungod sa marijuana. Yabag lang kang daan. Mao nay gusto nimo ipasabot

  3. #523

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    Quote Originally Posted by slabs17 View Post
    Asa man ko ng add hominems ani? Really license nurse ka? Ug mao nay imo profession karon? Gi unsa nimo pag pasar sa mga medical check ups? Drug tests gi unsa nimo pag pasar? Ad homins meam personal attacks? Asa ana kanang no ingon kog buang? Kay tinuod bitaw makabuang na ad hominems na noon. Ikaduha wala pamam siguro ko ni direkta sulti nimo na mao ka Lol

    Nga ngano mag agad man ko ana imong source. Naay daghang expert dinha ay sa gobyerno ug sa WHO sila nag tuon kabahin ana. Ug kana wala nila supportahiba nga lakang. Kana nagpasabot lng kungubsa gyuy ikahatag nga dlkadaog ani sa pangisip

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    Kani imo style mura ni siya ug kato nag promote kayaka cause daw ug aksidente. Mao e ban nalang ang motor. Unsay labot sa motor nga nagpuyo raman na diha. Ayaw na e drive diba way aksedente mahitabo. Meaning pasabot nimo kung mayabag ka dili na tungod sa marijuana. Yabag lang kang daan. Mao nay gusto nimo ipasabot
    lol. i know u just checked ad hominem definition and assumed that it is only limited to personal attacks.. when in fact it involves arguing through emotion and prejudices as well as attacking the argument not the argument itself but trying to discredit its sources in the hope that it justifies not arguing the argument itself. inciting anger is also an ad hominem. aside from ad hominems, u also throw red herrings and strawmen.. check their definition.lol
    just like how no one here can tell if what happend to your relative is true or just a natural bias to ur position, you cannot confirm if im a nurse or not but i know dean lumbab personally and dean hinoguin. but it doesnt matter right? because istorya gives as anonymity. i gave no direct source, except for cnn sanjay which was pretty recent. go ahead and check my claims in the same process you acquired yours...

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    kinahanglan pa diay malegal? kung cge nakag yup2x sa daplin?

  5. #525

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    Quote Originally Posted by emow View Post
    lol. i know u just checked ad hominem definition and assumed that it is only limited to personal attacks.. when in fact it involves arguing through emotion and prejudices as well as attacking the argument not the argument itself but trying to discredit its sources in the hope that it justifies not arguing the argument itself. inciting anger is also an ad hominem. aside from ad hominems, u also throw red herrings and strawmen.. check their definition.lol
    just like how no one here can tell if what happend to your relative is true or just a natural bias to ur position, you cannot confirm if im a nurse or not but i know dean lumbab personally and dean hinoguin. but it doesnt matter right? because istorya gives as anonymity. i gave no direct source, except for cnn sanjay which was pretty recent. go ahead and check my claims in the same process you acquired yours...
    Attacking arguments? According to forum rule number 2 attacking the opinion not the person so attacking your your argument is this forum is fine and is not a violation of the rules. Pahinumdoman lng tika forum ni. Dili ta parehas tanan ug opinion. Lain sad kaayog sige ratag yango2x dinhi.

    Kung sumahon gani bawal dinhi ang mga illegal prirated class A items so since marijuana is illegal dapat bawal sad ni nga discussion.

    Ug kang quistion nako about your profession is kung giunsa nimo pag luhsot sa mga medical exams?

    Ug kanang anonimity mahug kang way pulos sa imong argumento kung unsa ka valid kung ang nag claims way nawong. Dapat nimo ng barogan para motuo ang kadaghanan.
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  6. #526

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    Quote Originally Posted by <SMILE> View Post
    Okay then, they can take MJ under a doctors supervision and of course if the actual medical requirement arise.

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    Sige uy aron madali dili na lang ko mutuo nila nga mga nag-research ana nga field ug naay saktong expertise, nimo na lang.
    No, you got it wrong. That article was created by a blogger who could've copy pasted some clips from magazines. I was urging you to read that American Heart Journal issue I sent out. That's where medical professionals learn stuff, not blogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleedingboi View Post
    No, you got it wrong. That article was created by a blogger who could've copy pasted some clips from magazines. I was urging you to read that American Heart Journal issue I sent out. That's where medical professionals learn stuff, not blogs.
    The 2006 CARDIA study showed that marijuana use is associated with hypertension, dyslipidemia, and higher caloric intake, all of which may increase the incidence of coronary artery disease.10 In light of the probable effects of marijuana on increasing platelet coagulability11 and its frequent combined use with smoking tobacco or other illicit drugs, it is not surprising to note these reports of myocardial infarctions. In a review of 3882 patient interviews, Mittleman et al12 found a significant 4.8‐fold increase in the incidence of myocardial infarction over baseline in the first hour after marijuana use. Similarly, a 4.2‐fold increase in mortality rate was observed in marijuana users compared with nonusers following myocardial infarction.
    Recreational Marijuana Use: Is it Safe for Your Patient?

    It's from JAHA (Journal of the American Heart Association)

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    Quote Originally Posted by <SMILE> View Post
    The 2006 CARDIA study showed that marijuana use is associated with hypertension, dyslipidemia, and higher caloric intake, all of which may increase the incidence of coronary artery disease.10 In light of the probable effects of marijuana on increasing platelet coagulability11 and its frequent combined use with smoking tobacco or other illicit drugs, it is not surprising to note these reports of myocardial infarctions. In a review of 3882 patient interviews, Mittleman et al12 found a significant 4.8‐fold increase in the incidence of myocardial infarction over baseline in the first hour after marijuana use. Similarly, a 4.2‐fold increase in mortality rate was observed in marijuana users compared with nonusers following myocardial infarction.
    Recreational Marijuana Use: Is it Safe for Your Patient?

    It's from JAHA (Journal of the American Heart Association)
    Thank you, it's a good read but skipped some parts and went down instead. But anything in this world if taken in excess can be deadly. Even water. The benefits of Marijuana is greater than it's adverse effects, this statement is somehow being repeated several times in that article.

    "As the authors point out, this type of study has limitations. For example, we really do not know what the denominator is, and it is likely that cardiovascular events related to cannabis use were under‐reported due to an unwillingness to disclose information..."

    "The opinions expressed in this article are not necessarily those of the editors or of the American Heart Association."

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleedingboi View Post
    Thank you, it's a good read but skipped some parts and went down instead. But anything in this world if taken in excess can be deadly. Even water. The benefits of Marijuana is greater than it's adverse effects, this statement is somehow being repeated several times in that article.

    "As the authors point out, this type of study has limitations. For example, we really do not know what the denominator is, and it is likely that cardiovascular events related to cannabis use were under‐reported due to an unwillingness to disclose information..."

    "The opinions expressed in this article are not necessarily those of the editors or of the American Heart Association."
    Your welcome,
    yup, there are always risks in uncertainties.

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    Maayo nang ginadili kay lami.

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