For Your Information: Ferdinand Marcos's achievements, history etc.

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Jabidah Massacre was a hoax but why use it against Marcos? If it really was against Marcos why bring up an issue that was not only against Marcos(since it was his plan all along) but also against the interest of the state? This fact just shows that those people who used the issue had really no interest against 'oppression' but rather have then own interest to the point of jeopardizing the security of the state. Liberal party nonetheless.

Privatizing government assets like powerplants? Why sell them when the government, who owns them can pay them back with money they can issue. Was it really FMs fault those assets were privatized?

Human rights violations? Cory's time had more violations compared to what happened during FMs time. Even farmers were gunned down. Remember Mendiola?

So you want TOTAL freedom at the cost of losing territory(spratlys and Sabah), high rates of electricty, rampant corruption, and high rates of crime.

Yes, very sane proposal.

tungod jud aning Ninoy Aquino gabulgar bulgar ani unya hoax ra diay tsk tsk tsk, wala untay MNLF, MILF, BIFF, Abu Sayaff kung wala lang jud ni pataka taka ni si Ninoy,

[yhokz101]

tungod jud aning Ninoy Aquino gabulgar bulgar ani unya hoax ra diay tsk tsk tsk, wala untay MNLF, MILF, BIFF, Abu Sayaff kung wala lang jud ni pataka taka ni si Ninoy,

Kani jd sila bro backed by malaysia from the start labi na ng MNLF.. gi tolerate ra pod sa panahon ni Cory, wala na suppress ug na cntrol mao karon arang daghana na nila. Usa pod ni mao dli mo asenso ang nasud, if naay mga internal conflict ang usa ka nasud, ma grad down jd ang economiya. Mao ni usa ka punto ni Marcos sa una mao gi implement niya ang MArtial Law, pero ang mga oligarchs ang supak kau ani kay dli na sila "in-control" mao nag himo ug pa agi para mapa down nila c Macoy.

[SioDenz]

Ingon nila c Marcos jud daw rason nga na ingon ani ang pilipinas. Pangutana kung c marcos man jud hinungdan, ngano wala ma gi usab sa mga ni puli nya iyang mga bati na gi buhat? Unsa man kunoy kausaban ilang gi sulti beh na mao mka usab sa iyang gi pang buhat? Ang PCGG? Asa man kuno ang mga sapi nga na kuha sa PCGG? Ngano lagi naglisod man gihapon ang nasod maski ingon cla na PCGG nag buhat na sa tanan iya gibuhat?

Ah, grabeha sad, naa man lagi uban nasod maski mo agi ug gubat naka barog man lagi cla daun? Mas grabe man gani ilang utang kay wala jud cla maipakitang asset kay guba jud tanan. Ingon ana jud ka grabe ang gi kawat ni marcos nga pwde na xa ma gamit para gasto sa gubat na mka pa luhod jud sa isa ka nasod?

Ang mga utang tungod sa mga gipa tukod na mga imprastraktura wala man lagi gi bayad. Ngano gi baligya man nuon sa mga pribadong kamot? Sala man kaha ni marcos mao dako ta ug utang. Unya pasangil daun na dako kaayo dli mabayaran, pero dba ma bayaran mana kung ang mga gi tukod nya mapahimuslan kung goberno gihapon tag-iya kay ang kta adto punta sa pag bayad sa utang? Pero na abot man lage sa mga pribadong kamot?

Ang goberno dli man jud na ma lugi kay pwede mana cla ka pa gawas ug kwarta gkan sa bangko sentral, pero ngano lagi gi baligya sa pribadong kamot na ang pina ka sakto na pama.agi kay gamiton unta daun buwisan nalang ang mga tao?

Unya ang mga swiss accounts, kung naa man gani didto gi butang iyang mga 'kinawat' ngano wala man jud gi pakita na tinuod jud diay na kinawat 2 nya ang mga sapi? Ang swiss na mga bangko karon dli na cla mo dawat ug mga amerkano na cliente kay tungod sa mando sa US bahin anang mga nag likay sa buwis.

Pero akong punto pasabot kay pwede man nmo ma maniubra ang swiss banks na mo buhat ug ingon ana pina.agi sa goberno ngano wala mana gi buhat? Ingon ta ang mga pinoy na gi dudahan kunohay naay gi tago sa mga bangko sa swiss bawal.

So ma apektahan tanan mga pinoy na naay swiss account. Daun ipa sira daun sa mga swiss ilang mga account. Nya kung ma apil ang sa kang marcos so ma pa gawas jud ang kwarta unya ingnon lang uban bangko ug ubang nasod nga terrorista o kawatan na c marcos aron ma freeze na tanan ilang mga assets.

Ngano wala man?

You tortured your People, You take away their Freedom, You PUT FEAR in peoples mind so that they will Fear the military and the Police and the Govt officials, You put your economy in RUINS and Borrowed BILLIONS of Money. You a MESS of your people and your Country and You expect the Next Presidents to FIXED All that? WOW

The people in 1980's are the same people who suffered FEAR under martial LAW, The people in the Govt are that time same people under MARCOS time, If MARCOS shows GOOD Governance During his TIME, Nganu puro BASURA ang mga Politiko nga Under niya?

And Why there's NO Mention ANYWHERE in the HISTORY Books about the PHILIPPINES being a RICH and DEVELOPED or have STABLE economy During 1970's and early 80's during Martial LAW?


So according to History and some accounts from people outside the PH, from 1960 to early 70's , PH economy is very Good, we are at the Top of Asian Region. Nya During sa Martial Law from early 70's to early 80's basura atung ekonomiya Ug walay Magpautang na nga lain nasud. KINSAY DIAY RASON?

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and compare it to whom? PeabraiNoy?

I already said We will Judge Marcos according sa Nahitabo sa iyang time UNYA mag compare na nuon

We can discuss what Marcos Did during his time without inserting your HATRED of PNOY or any other Presidents

[SioDenz]

tungod jud aning Ninoy Aquino gabulgar bulgar ani unya hoax ra diay tsk tsk tsk, wala untay MNLF, MILF, BIFF, Abu Sayaff kung wala lang jud ni pataka taka ni si Ninoy,

I dont think So,

As long as there are Religious Fundamentalist, As long as dili nimu hutdon tanan - these groups will always be there in one form or another.

[MollyMillions]

Hinoon, maskin pila ka dahana pa na ang leader aning grupoha mamatay ugu mawala, ang Ideology Never gyud na mawala. So in a way, as long as the Ideology is there it is only a matter of time nga naa japon group such as these.

Question: Unsaon pagpatay sa Ideology?

I dont think So,

As long as there are Religious Fundamentalist, As long as dili nimu hutdon tanan - these groups will always be there in one form or another.

[rickflag]

You tortured your People, You take away their Freedom, You PUT FEAR in peoples mind so that they will Fear the military and the Police and the Govt officials, You put your economy in RUINS and Borrowed BILLIONS of Money. You a MESS of your people and your Country and You expect the Next Presidents to FIXED All that? WOW

The people in 1980's are the same people who suffered FEAR under martial LAW, The people in the Govt are that time same people under MARCOS time, If MARCOS shows GOOD Governance During his TIME, Nganu puro BASURA ang mga Politiko nga Under niya?

And Why there's NO Mention ANYWHERE in the HISTORY Books about the PHILIPPINES being a RICH and DEVELOPED or have STABLE economy During 1970's and early 80's during Martial LAW?


So according to History and some accounts from people outside the PH, from 1960 to early 70's , PH economy is very Good, we are at the Top of Asian Region. Nya During sa Martial Law from early 70's to early 80's basura atung ekonomiya Ug walay Magpautang na nga lain nasud. KINSAY DIAY RASON?

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I already said We will Judge Marcos according sa Nahitabo sa iyang time UNYA mag compare na nuon

We can discuss what Marcos Did during his time without inserting your HATRED of PNOY or any other Presidents

Nakaabot ko sa time sa martial law, early teens pa ko ato. Kaning torture the people, over hype ra na kay ang mga subersibo ra ang gipang initan sa PC. Ang kulba ra jud ato nga time madakpan ka ug curfew kay awotan ka ug prisohon overnight pero on the other hand maau pod ang effect ato kay almost zero crime, walay loose firearms kay dakpon man jud kung magdala ka. Karon murag sayon ra kaau kadala2x firearms mao ni grabe ang crime. Mao di ta angay mga pinoy lenient governance dapat strict para ma disiplina ta.

[yhokz101]

Nakaabot ko sa time sa martial law, early teens pa ko ato. Kaning torture the people, over hype ra na kay ang mga subersibo ra ang gipang initan sa PC. Ang kulba ra jud ato nga time madakpan ka ug curfew kay awotan ka ug prisohon overnight pero on the other hand maau pod ang effect ato kay almost zero crime, walay loose firearms kay dakpon man jud kung magdala ka. Karon murag sayon ra kaau kadala2x firearms mao ni grabe ang crime. Mao di ta angay mga pinoy lenient governance dapat strict para ma disiplina ta.

agree ko ani.. sakto man sad, need man jd displina ang mga pinoy. kadtong time ni Marcos naa fear, naay disclipina. pareha ra pod pattern sa singapore, naa silay fear ni LKY naa jd pod disciplina. Pero kadtong nawala na c macoy, aww murag ilaga gibuhian ang mga politko, left and right and anomalya.. tiunod jd ang gi ingon na - "when the cat is away, the mice will play"

[kit_cebu]

pero saon taman lagi, di man i-komparar si makoy sa uban...ang kang makoy lang nga bati atong stroyaan...sa expression pa, "eh di wow!"

[yhokz101]

- It was during his first term that the North Diversion Road (now, North Luzon Expressway) (initially from Balintawak to Tabang, Guiguinto, Bulacan) was constructed with the help of the AFP engineering construction battalion.

- Successful drive against smuggling. In 1966, more than 100 important smugglers were arrested; in three years 1966-1968 the arrests totaled 5,000. Military men involved in smuggling were forced to retire

- Greater production of rice by promoting the cultivation of IR-8 hybrid rice. In 1968 the Philippines became self-sufficient in rice, the first time in history since the American period. In addition, the Philippines exported rice worth US$7 million.

- Land reform was given an impetus during the first term of President Marcos. 3,739 hectares of lands in Central Luzon were distributed to the farmers.

- President Marcos initiated, together with the other four heads of state of Southeast Asia (Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand and Singapore), the formation of a regional organization to combat the communist threat in the region – the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN).

- Government finances were stabilized by higher revenue collections and loans from treasury bonds, foreign lending institutions and foreign governments.

- His 21 years in power with the help of U.S. massive economic aid and foreign loans enabled Marcos to build more schools, hospitals and infrastructure than any of his predecessors combined.

- Due to his iron rule, he was able to impose order and reduce crime by strict implementation of the law.

- The relative economic success that the Philippines enjoyed during the initial part of his presidency is hard to dispel.

- Peace and order substantially improved in most provinces however situations in Manila and some provinces continued to deteriorate until the imposition of martial law in 1972.

-Many of Marcos' accomplishments were overlooked after the so-called "People Power" EDSA Revolution.


A journalist said that "The Marcoses were the best of us, and they were the worst of us. That's why we say we hate them so much."

[M.A.D.]

Too general about that torture or what it is. I personally know some people who where caught and jailed but they were released. Only the extreme subversives were dealt with. And besides, after Marcos the movement against him waned and is no longer as strong as before. So which goes, what were they really against? Just against Marcos or against 'oppression' and 'tyranny'? How come there wasn't anymore more momentum from the movement right after reaching its peak during marcos time?

How come they did not help the people that died under the succeeding administrations? So they really were just there to accomodate anti-Marcos sentiment? After that... NOTHING?

Anyway, in basic economics the security of a state relies on its citizens ability to pay for their daily living. No country is an exception. So the situation in the philippines is no different compared to others during that time.

Latin American Debt Crisis of the 1980s - A detailed essay on an important event in the history of the Federal Reserve.

The Origins of the Debt Crisis
During the 1970s, two large oil price shocks created current account deficits in many Latin American countries. At the same time, these shocks created current account surpluses among oil-exporting countries. With the encouragement of the US government, large US money-center banks were willing intermediaries between the two groups, providing the exporting countries with a safe, liquid place for their funds and then lending those funds to Latin America (FDIC 1997).1

Latin American borrowing from US commercial banks and other creditors increased dramatically during the 1970s. At the end of 1970, total outstanding debt from all sources totaled only $29 billion, but by the end of 1978, that number had skyrocketed to $159 billion. By 1982, the debt level reached $327 billion (FDIC 1997).

You tortured your People, You take away their Freedom, You PUT FEAR in peoples mind so that they will Fear the military and the Police and the Govt officials, You put your economy in RUINS and Borrowed BILLIONS of Money. You a MESS of your people and your Country and You expect the Next Presidents to FIXED All that? WOW

The people in 1980's are the same people who suffered FEAR under martial LAW, The people in the Govt are that time same people under MARCOS time, If MARCOS shows GOOD Governance During his TIME, Nganu puro BASURA ang mga Politiko nga Under niya?

And Why there's NO Mention ANYWHERE in the HISTORY Books about the PHILIPPINES being a RICH and DEVELOPED or have STABLE economy During 1970's and early 80's during Martial LAW?


So according to History and some accounts from people outside the PH, from 1960 to early 70's , PH economy is very Good, we are at the Top of Asian Region. Nya During sa Martial Law from early 70's to early 80's basura atung ekonomiya Ug walay Magpautang na nga lain nasud. KINSAY DIAY RASON?

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I already said We will Judge Marcos according sa Nahitabo sa iyang time UNYA mag compare na nuon

We can discuss what Marcos Did during his time without inserting your HATRED of PNOY or any other Presidents