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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhared View Post
    This is an issue which actually confuses a lot of people.. just because a certain proposition is called a theory it doesn't really mean we should dismiss it., and just because something is considered a law, that does not mean it is better than a theory..

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    ...and that is your FAITH nga dili jud I dismiss ang theory of evolution. Walay kalahi-an mo sa faith pod sa mga Theists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    ...and that is your FAITH nga dili jud I dismiss ang theory of evolution. Walay kalahi-an mo sa faith pod sa mga Theists.
    Faith ngadtu kang Darwin

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    ...and that is your FAITH nga dili jud I dismiss ang theory of evolution. Walay kalahi-an mo sa faith pod sa mga Theists.
    if you mean FAITH nga pagtuo, the same anang pagtuo ninyo sa inyong ginoo, then no it is quite different..

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    ok kaau ko sa explanation niyo bro. sis...

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    OT:

    Let us simplify things first and foremost;

    Theory - is a statement based on a collection of ideas, observations and hypotheses but CAN STILL BE PROVEN WRONG

    whereas

    Law - is a statement based on a collection of ideas, observations, and hypotheses that WILL MOST LIKELY NOT BE PROVEN WRONG and is considered a FACT.

    so with regards to that "theory" of electrons is no longer a theory at all.

    We would never dismiss a theory right away until it is proven WRONG..

    Th reason why Theory of evolution remains as is because neither can prove to the other. No one can prove it is wrong nor it is right.. so it remains to be seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    OT:

    Let us simplify things first and foremost;

    Theory - is a statement based on a collection of ideas, observations and hypotheses but CAN STILL BE PROVEN WRONG

    whereas

    Law - is a statement based on a collection of ideas, observations, and hypotheses that WILL MOST LIKELY NOT BE PROVEN WRONG and is considered a FACT.

    so with regards to that "theory" of electrons is no longer a theory at all.

    Th reason why Theory of evolution remains as is because neither can prove to the other. No one can prove it is wrong nor it is right.. so it remains to be seen.
    how can you be so sure that electron theory is no longer a theory? even atoms are only a theory, called atomic theory... but it's the closest representation we have with reality, that's why we are sticking to it.,

    We would never dismiss a theory right away until it is proven WRONG..
    exactly... now because evolution is the closest explanation we have, supported by significant evidence, therefore it is only rational to stick to it.. unless a different proposition is made which is also supported by more significant data, then we jump to that theory and work on that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhared View Post

    exactly... now because evolution is the closest explanation we have, supported by significant evidence, therefore it is only rational to stick to it.. unless a different proposition is made which is also supported by more significant data, then we jump to that theory and work on that...
    The very reason we can only stick it as theory as for now is those scientific evidence, they can't be properly connected (there are still missing links or dots whatever you may refer them) to make a valid claim just yet. As far as scientific view is concerned theory of evolution remains challenged as it is today.

    To the scientific creationists, however, there are no human fossils -- no evidence of forms intermediate between humans and other primates.

    We need to be aware of the difference between believing in scientific creationism (a theological explanation seeking empirical support) and accepting evolution as the best scientific explanation for a wealth of data from all natural sciences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    The very reason we can only stick it as theory as for now is those scientific evidence, they can't be properly connected (there are still missing links or dots whatever you may refer them) to make a valid claim just yet. As far as scientific view is concerned theory of evolution remains challenged as it is today.

    To the scientific creationists, however, there are no human fossils -- no evidence of forms intermediate between humans and other primates.

    We need to be aware of the difference between believing in scientific creationism (a theological explanation seeking empirical support) and accepting evolution as the best scientific explanation for a wealth of data from all natural sciences.
    it's also a matter of scientific principle, sticking to tangible programs rather than mere speculations., seeking to understand what can be understood rather than relying on blunt notions such as "god did it"..

    it is somewhat wrong to be thwarted by this so-called "no-complete-evidence-yet" scheme.. it is always good to synergize among the line of common interest, true scientific interest that is..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhared View Post
    if you mean FAITH nga pagtuo, the same anang pagtuo ninyo sa inyong ginoo, then no it is quite different..
    Kamo ray nag mugna nga different. Keep the faith nalang ninyo mga bacteria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    Kamo ray nag mugna nga different. Keep the faith nalang ninyo mga bacteria.
    then in your own words, how is it the same?

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