Do you believe Human Evolution By Sir Charles Darwin or we're God's creation?

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i believe in creation... , in line with that, I believe only in microevolution/mutations/degrading of our genetics rather than upgrading (turning to another species) as what macroevolution describes

as a Christian, I believe that it is part of sin's consequences to humanity that we are degrading, and also as a Christian, i believe that we are made according to our kinds in the first place

Genesis 1:25
New International Version (NIV)

God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

[yhokz101]

OT: Does science necessarily contradicts religion?

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OT: Does science necessarily contradicts religion?

science and Christianity conforms to each other, true science has these factors (testable, observable, and repeatable), i dont know pa kung nipasar ba ang evolution ana nga factors kay wala pa may nakakita nga nievolve ang isda padung sa langgam

ang Bible coincide with science jud

1. The earth is a sphere (Isaiah 40:22). "It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth"
Now: The earth is a sphere
Then: The earth was a flat disk.

2. Incalculable number of stars (Jeremiah 33:22). "As the host of heaven cannot be numbered."
Now: Incalculable number of stars
Then: Only 1,100 stars.

3. Free float of earth in space (Job 26:7). "He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing."
Now: Free float of earth in space.
Then:Earth sat on a large animal.

4. Creation made of invisible elements (Hebrews 11:3). "Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."
Now: Creation made of invisible elements (atoms).
Then: Science was ignorant on the subject.

5. Each star is different (1 Corinthians 15:41). "There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory."
Now: Each star is different.
Then: All stars were the same.

6. Light moves (Job 38:19,20). "Where is the way where light dwelleth? and as for darkness, where is the place thereof, That thou shouldest take it to the bound thereof, and that thou shouldest know the paths to the house thereof?" Now: Light moves.
Then: Light was fixed in place.

7. Air has weight (Job 28:25)."To make the weight for the winds; and he weigheth the waters by measure."
Now: Air has weight.
Then: Air was weightless.

8. Winds blow in cyclones (Ecclesiastes 1:6). "The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits."
Now: Winds blow in cyclones.
Then: Winds blew straight.

9. Blood is the source of life and health (Leviticus 17:11). "For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul."
Now: Blood is the source of life.
Then: Sick people must be bled.

10. Ocean floor contains deep valleys and Mountains (2 Samuel 22:16; Jonah 2:6). "And the channels of the sea appeared, the foundations of the world were discovered, at the rebuking of the LORD, at the blast of the breath of his nostrils. I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God."
Now: Ocean floor contains deep valleys and mountains.
Then: The ocean floor was flat.

11. Ocean contains springs (Job 38:16). "Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? or hast thou walked in the search of the depth? "
Now: Ocean contains springs.
Then: Ocean fed only by rivers and rain.

12. When dealing with disease, hands should be washed under running water (Leviticus 15:13). "And when he that hath an issue is cleansed of his issue; then he shall number to himself seven days for his cleansing, and wash his clothes, and bathe his flesh in running water, and shall be clean.
Now: When dealing with disease, hands should be washed under running water.
Then: Hands washed in still water.

and many more pa....

[Crimson_Viper]

daghana switu dri uy pru wa juy ni tubag sa akung pangutana.!
topic balik.balik.? akung pangutana dli balik.balik, tubag mga switu.!

pwidi ba ang mama papa Jehovah, then ilang anak ipa Seventh day adventist.?

kay mu tan.aw sa kug Seventh son

[slabs7]

daghana switu dri uy pru wa juy ni tubag sa akung pangutana.!
topic balik.balik.? akung pangutana dli balik.balik, tubag mga switu.!

pwidi ba ang mama papa Jehovah, then ilang anak ipa Seventh day adventist.?

kay mu tan.aw sa kug Seventh son

naa may daghan maka tubag ani bro pero gipang kapoy na ug tubag. pila na ka thread ang nangagi, na close nalang ang uban nanga ban na ang uban pero wala gihapoy kapa ingnan...bisan ako maka tubag ko ani pero kapoy na

[defender_1611]

daghana switu dri uy pru wa juy ni tubag sa akung pangutana.!
topic balik.balik.? akung pangutana dli balik.balik, tubag mga switu.!

pwidi ba ang mama papa Jehovah, then ilang anak ipa Seventh day adventist.?

kay mu tan.aw sa kug Seventh son

pwede gud...nganu dili man....naa ra ninyo kung gusto gyud ninyo as parents.....ug naa ra pod sa anak ug gusto pod siya sa adventist....mana na tubag na. Peace sir @Crimson_Viper

[Jhared]

science and Christianity conforms to each other, true science has these factors (testable, observable, and repeatable), i dont know pa kung nipasar ba ang evolution ana nga factors kay wala pa may nakakita nga nievolve ang isda padung sa langgam

ang Bible coincide with science jud

because of the minuscule effect of the evolutionary process, there is actually no window of observing it in say, big species like mammals, we can only somehow speculate its existence by analyzing the facts.. like how the sea-gypsies of Thailand known as the Moken people developed the ability to see underwater with their naked eyes with twice the clarity with that of normal eyes.. or how the Tibetan people developed better blood oxygenation, enlarged lung volume and higher capacity to physical activities compared to that of lowland humans.. There is no observable facts, but we can only speculate that it is happening minutely as we speak..

although in the study of microbiology, scientists are able to look at evolution like a live TV-show, like the so-called Antimicrobial Resistance, which is believed to be a grave and growing global problem,..

and many more pa....

ya, like treating leprosy by sprinkling a dead bird's blood seven times unto the affected person... Lev 14..

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because of the minuscule effect of the evolutionary process, there is actually no window of observing it in say, big species like mammals, we can only somehow speculate its existence by analyzing the facts.. like how the sea-gypsies of Thailand known as the Moken people developed the ability to see underwater with their naked eyes with twice the clarity with that of normal eyes.. or how the Tibetan people developed better blood oxygenation, enlarged lung volume and higher capacity to physical activities compared to that of lowland humans.. There is no observable facts, but we can only speculate that it is happening minutely as we speak..

although in the study of microbiology, scientists are able to look at evolution like a live TV-show, like the so-called Antimicrobial Resistance, which is believed to be a grave and growing global problem,..

ang anti microbial resistance is misconcepted as evolution but actually a loss or change of information (mutation) so a bacteria is still a bacteria pero ang sequence sa iyang DNA kay nakuhaan or nagswap, wala naghimo ug laing set of information.... mao na ang usa sa examples beneficial mutations sa mga bacteria kay ang gitira sa anti biotic di na mosakar kay nabag-o na ang pattern

kanang mga Moken people, niadapt na sila sa ilang surroundings pero ilang DNA ana wala naggain ug information, nagmutate na to adapt in their surroundings kay ila nang panginabuhi gikan sa mga ancestors nila nang managat so napasa na nila hangtud karon, kanang Tibetan people tungod pud sa ilang surroundings nagmutate na to adapt sad, naa sila sa taas nga lugar so kinahanglan na nila sukad pa sa ilang mga ancestors unya gipasa na nila.....pero same ra sila nga taw gihapon ang genes ana walay napuno..it is either nagswap ang sequence sa DNA or naay gitangtang or naay corrupted para makaadapt....

pero lahi ug case nang macroevolution nga from molecules to man, fish to birds, frog to a prince hehe, kay kinahanglan na jud na ug additional new very huge informations ang DNA nga iproduce

ya, like treating leprosy by sprinkling a dead bird's blood seven times unto the affected person... Lev 14..

first of all wala nagsulti nga cure na siya, seremonyas ni sa mga Jews after maayo ang usa ka taw sa leprosy

Leviticus 14:1-7
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14 The Lord said to Moses, 2 “These are the regulations for any diseased person at the time of their ceremonial cleansing, when they are brought to the priest: 3 The priest is to go outside the camp and examine them. If they have been healed of their defiling skin disease,[a] 4 the priest shall order that two live clean birds and some cedar wood, scarlet yarn and hyssop be brought for the person to be cleansed. 5 Then the priest shall order that one of the birds be killed over fresh water in a clay pot. 6 He is then to take the live bird and dip it, together with the cedar wood, the scarlet yarn and the hyssop, into the blood of the bird that was killed over the fresh water. 7 Seven times he shall sprinkle the one to be cleansed of the defiling disease, and then pronounce them clean. After that, he is to release the live bird in the open fields.

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daghana switu dri uy pru wa juy ni tubag sa akung pangutana.!
topic balik.balik.? akung pangutana dli balik.balik, tubag mga switu.!

pwidi ba ang mama papa Jehovah, then ilang anak ipa Seventh day adventist.?

kay mu tan.aw sa kug Seventh son

we have a freedom of religion as mandated sa atong Constitution, though kung bata pa ang gusto magpaconvert unya dependent pa sa iyang parents basin maglisod siya, mao nga magtuon sa siya ug maayo asa siya mas convinced nga doctrines sa tanang religions or even secularism/atheism/humanism samtang bata pa siya

[Jhared]

ang anti microbial resistance is misconcepted as evolution but actually a loss or change of information (mutation) so a bacteria is still a bacteria pero ang sequence sa iyang DNA kay nakuhaan or nagswap, wala naghimo ug laing set of information.... mao na ang usa sa examples beneficial mutations sa mga bacteria kay ang gitira sa anti biotic di na mosakar kay nabag-o na ang pattern

kanang mga Moken people, niadapt na sila sa ilang surroundings pero ilang DNA ana wala naggain ug information, nagmutate na to adapt in their surroundings kay ila nang panginabuhi gikan sa mga ancestors nila nang managat so napasa na nila hangtud karon, kanang Tibetan people tungod pud sa ilang surroundings nagmutate na to adapt sad, naa sila sa taas nga lugar so kinahanglan na nila sukad pa sa ilang mga ancestors unya gipasa na nila.....pero same ra sila nga taw gihapon ang genes ana walay napuno..it is either nagswap ang sequence sa DNA or naay gitangtang or naay corrupted para makaadapt....

pero lahi ug case nang macroevolution nga from molecules to man, fish to birds, frog to a prince hehe, kay kinahanglan na jud na ug additional new very huge informations ang DNA nga iproduce

Exactly, mutation is an evolutionary process so is adaptation.. it's not a misconception, but is actually evolution in it's microbiological level, the true face of evolution itself.. which if summed up results to, well, human adaptation, mutation, etc..

whether nakuhaan, naswap, ni adapt,.. that's all part of the evolutionary process.. studies have shown, by examining the Moken children's pupils, that they have sensibly better vision underwater than everybody else., which goes to show that they have adapted well enough that this genetic specialty have been passed on to their children.. which also goes to show that in fact their genetic structure or DNA have been altered, and that my friend is evolution.. the same is also true with the Tibetans..

first of all wala nagsulti nga cure na siya, seremonyas ni sa mga Jews after maayo ang usa ka taw sa leprosy

ceremony? or some sort of cleansing as what the bible literally said.. if so, then it still, is part of the healing process, some sort of indispensable final touches..