Freemasonry and the Catholic Church

[fern-pewee]

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d mn na maayo guro.kai conflict mn pd na sa ato religion.ug usa pa ingon sila bsta mason kai mag tinabangay dw

[brendomar]

of course coz the elite on top has all the money in this world. You know kwarta baya ang nagpadagan sa kalibutan, next to God. Unsa ilang agenda, dili imposible nilang buhaton. Nakanindot lang dunay pulong sa ginoo that reveals ug unsay padulngan sa kalibutan.

[<SMILE>]

Truly, Leonardo valued reason much more than faith. Reason-based beliefs are discovered and verified through the scientific method. The scientific method is when one observes reality with one's five senses, makes logical hypotheses based on one's observation, and then does experiments to prove or disprove one's hypotheses. The vast majority of Leonardo's writings are concerned with observations and experiments. Da Vinci was a great artist, but he might have been a much greater scientist. Judging from his writings, his main goal in life was to know as much about the real universe as he could.

Contrast Leonardo's goals and methods with the faith-based goals and methods of so many of his Italian contemporaries. Faith-based goals usually are designed to make one happy, not to know as much about the real universe as possible. Faith-based beliefs are usually taught by some ancient authority and then uncritically believed by the believer. They are not based on the scientific method. The main goal of most of Leonardo's Italian contemporaries was to have eternal bliss in Heaven, and the method they used to achieve this goal was to believe and do what the Roman Catholic Church taught.

While he epitomized the zest for life and nature that was the guiding theme of humanism, he did at the same time eschew the dependence on ancient sources and the worshipful repetition of its principles that equally characterized its scholarship. “Those who study the ancients and not the words of Nature,” he wrote, “are stepsons and not sons of Nature, the mother of all good authors.” He was the first to approach the pronouncements of the Aristotles, Ptolemys, and Galens as teachings to be tested and challenged rather than as teachings to be necessarily accepted (Nuland .

In this long excerpt from his notes, listen to how Leonardo praises reason-based beliefs and criticizes faith-based beliefs:
What was Leonardo da Vinci's Religion?

These intelligent people of the light only wishes to explore faith through their intellect,
GOD give them them that and they should use it. They are far critical and knowledgeable and not easily swayed by commercial oriented beliefs.

[newbie.86]

Catholic membership in Masonic organizations is still strictly forbidden -- and incurs automatic excommunication.

I am really trying my best to understand why some people (and Catholics at that) prostitute their souls for the sake of material and financial incentives by joining these forbidden organizations.

[tagur0]

wala may mo complicate nila kay freemasonry is not a religion. kay dili man sila mo paki kung unsa ang imong tinohoan as long as ang individual naay pagtuo sa maka gagahom sa kahitas-an.

[kalihi_kid]

freemasonry is not a religion ........FYI

[salbahis]

im curious about the occult practices but i think it would conflict with the Holy Spirit in me. So id rather not play with my belief in Christ.

i dont think freemason are mostly occult, its just preference of a member/leader... stereotyped ra ang imong pagsabut, or wala lang ka kasabot sa definition sa occult...

i was invited once, but pass on it and i dont have plans either.. my father and my uncles are freemason... the line ends with me...

[rics zalved]

anyways ang requirement man pud sa usa ka freemason is to be a theist man pud....

[yhokz101]

Freemasonry / Freemasons.. matud pa sa akong lolo, mao ni sila founding fathers sa mga masons. Which is basically true man pod. A fraternal organizations na up to today nag exist.

And Freemasonry is incompatible with the Catholic faith. Freemasonry teaches a naturalistic religion that espouses indifferentism, the position that a person can be equally pleasing to God while remaining in any religion.

[makal34]

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