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    Quote Originally Posted by rics zalved View Post
    because God is not selfish, gusto niya itest jud ang kinsa ang mga taw nga moobey gihapon niya inspite ug many temptations from Satan, pero even pa gani mafall ka basta morepent ka and accept Jesus as Lord and Savior, and live with it maluwas ka
    my question is: unsa ang gibuhat sa tawo sa dihang wala pa sila makabuhat sa pagkaon ana nga prutas, are they doing good or bad? regarding repentance, after nila pagkaon sa maong prutas, unsay nahitabo? napasaylo ba sila or wala? knowing that they confess their sins when their creator ask them what is happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    good to slabs.. ang evil ato katong disobedience..
    taympa sa gud...unsa man gyud gyud tong prutasa klarohon nato na bi...kay nahimo naman noon nga ang disobedience nalang ang evil

    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    because God knows which will bring him more glory, ang paglabay bang Satanas largo sa empyerno or pasagdaan sa sya for some time.
    mura sad ug politician di ie ning ginoo ninyo bai...himo ug maayo para daygon sa mangatawo, pero naghimo sad siya ug goons para maoy hansakan sa iyang mga sayop or palpak nga nabuhat

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    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    They are pure creation sa Ginoo bai, uncorrupt by sin of deeds and thoughts. They don't know yet what is good or bad.. diha na after pag kaon na nila sa fruit of the tree.
    naa ra unta ohh kung wla pa unta tong prutasa dili unta sila makasala, kung wala palang unta didto gibutang tong bitin dili unta sila matintal, ang nagbutang didto ang creator rasad, unya kay nakakaon man nasayod na noon sila nga sayop to, kung wala pa unta to butanga didto dili unta sila maingon ana, ang nakaliki sa istorya kay nagpadala rasad siya ug iyang bida para iya daw luwason sa sala nga in the first place siya rasad nagmugna atong salaa

    kung imo pasabot nganu wala nalang gi imprison si satanas sa hell para dli mag hasik sa lagim? .. mao ba ni imong point?
    -mao na akong pasabot bai

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    Quote Originally Posted by slabs7 View Post
    my question is: unsa ang gibuhat sa tawo sa dihang wala pa sila makabuhat sa pagkaon ana nga prutas,
    nag suroy2x ra man daw sila, sa eskina padung pikas eskina.. nag viewing sa scenery.
    are they doing good or bad?
    they are doing nothing.. basically not evil if mao na imo pasabot. wala paman sila nka hibaw unsay evil or good.. so maybe wala pa silay buot..murag bata bah, wa pay knwledge unsay right/wrong.

    regarding repentance, after nila pagkaon sa maong prutas, unsay nahitabo? napasaylo ba sila or wala? knowing that they confess their sins when their creator ask them what is happening.
    they confess on eating the forbidden fruit man bai db? but in the Bible it does not record them repenting of their sin. Mao gipa layas na sila sa harden.. corrupted naman gd sila.

    taympa sa gud...unsa man gyud gyud tong prutasa klarohon nato na bi...kay nahimo naman noon nga ang disobedience nalang ang evil
    disobedience lage sa wa pag sunod sa tugon sa Ginoo.. ang then followd na ang pag kaon sa forbidden fruit.

    mura sad ug politician di ie ning ginoo ninyo bai...himo ug maayo para daygon sa mangatawo, pero naghimo sad siya ug goons para maoy hansakan sa iyang mga sayop or palpak nga nabuhat
    other way around bai, diha kuha ug idea ang mga politician.. hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by rics zalved View Post
    because God is not selfish, gusto niya itest jud ang kinsa ang mga taw nga moobey gihapon niya inspite ug many temptations from Satan, pero even pa gani mafall ka basta morepent ka and accept Jesus as Lord and Savior, and live with it maluwas ka

    si Job gani giallow sa Ginoo nga hilabtan siya ni Satan



    ang ending gani ani kay successfully nga faithful kaayo si Job sa Ginoo inspite nga gitangtangan na siya tanan, so mao nay gusto ni God, ang mostand by him even sa mga trials and temptations, mao ni ang mga tawo nga worthy jud sa langit, kung walay trials, tests, temptations, unsaon niya pagtest? even though all knowing si God pero tungod sa freewill nato di sya kakontrol ana pero kabalo siya unsa atong buhaton before pa nato gibuhat
    makalingaw gyud ning istorya sa biblia bai

    ingon ani ra ai..himo siyag earth, butangan niyag tawo na perfect being daw, then gibutangan niyag prutas para makasala, then iya gipalayas sa paraiso, then iyang luwason para malangit unsa di ie purpose aning earth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    nag suroy2x ra man daw sila, sa eskina padung pikas eskina.. nag viewing sa scenery.
    they are doing nothing.. basically not evil if mao na imo pasabot. wala paman sila nka hibaw unsay evil or good.. so maybe wala pa silay buot..murag bata bah, wa pay knwledge unsay right/wrong.
    wala pa di ie sila kahibaw unsay good or evil? karon asa ang free will? hahaha

    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    they confess on eating the forbidden fruit man bai db? but in the Bible it does not record them repenting of their sin. Mao gipa layas na sila sa harden.. corrupted naman gd sila.
    diba when it comes to confessions there was also repentance, and knowing that God knows everything diba dapat kahibaw siya na katong ilang nabuhat wala pa silay buot ato so dili pa sila dapat masilotan sa balaod kay under age pa

    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    disobedience lage sa wa pag sunod sa tugon sa Ginoo.. ang then followd na ang pag kaon sa forbidden fruit.
    wala pa baya silay buot ato nga time so basically wala pa sila kahibaw what is good or evil

    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    other way around bai, diha kuha ug idea ang mga politician.. hehehe
    bitaw2x playing God

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    Quote Originally Posted by slabs7 View Post
    makalingaw gyud ning istorya sa biblia bai
    either malingaw ka (ma enlighten) o mabuang ka kung sayup ang pag sabot hehehe.. mao hinay2x lang.


    ingon ani ra ai..himo siyag earth, butangan niyag tawo na perfect being daw, then gibutangan niyag prutas para makasala, then iya gipalayas sa paraiso, then iyang luwason para malangit unsa di ie purpose aning earth?
    There's a story of Saint Augustine walking along a beach, contemplating the great mystery of the Trinity. He sees a boy who had dug a hole in the sand, going back and forth from the sea, bringing water to pour into that hole. Augustine asked him, “What are you doing?” “I’m gonna pour the entire ocean into this hole.” “Why that's impossible," said Augustine, "the ocean won't fit into the hole you've made.” The boy replied: “Nor can you, sir, fit the Trinity into your puny little brain.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    either malingaw ka (ma enlighten) o mabuang ka kung sayup ang pag sabot hehehe.. mao hinay2x lang.




    There's a story of Saint Augustine walking along a beach, contemplating the great mystery of the Trinity. He sees a boy who had dug a hole in the sand, going back and forth from the sea, bringing water to pour into that hole. Augustine asked him, “What are you doing?” “I’m gonna pour the entire ocean into this hole.” “Why that's impossible," said Augustine, "the ocean won't fit into the hole you've made.” The boy replied: “Nor can you, sir, fit the Trinity into your puny little brain.”
    unya kinsa mantang duha ani si Agustin or kanang bata? kay kanang imong example wala man mahaom sa tubag sa akoang example ug pangutana

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    ^ ah Trinity wala gyapon sa Bible parehas ras Purgatory

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterK View Post
    ^ ah Trinity wala gyapon sa Bible parehas ras Purgatory
    si trinity, faith, rosaryo, ug si sincerity sige rana silag pa kyut sa kombento


    bitaw ui dinhi nalang ko kutob paalaaaam

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    Quote Originally Posted by slabs7 View Post
    wala pa di ie sila kahibaw unsay good or evil? karon asa ang free will? hahaha
    naay free will bai, lahi man na kaysa kahibaw sa unsay good or evil pod hehehe.. free will is to make choices unimpeded by certain prevailing factors. Not necessily on good or evil.. knowledge naman na.

    diba when it comes to confessions there was also repentance, and knowing that God knows everything diba dapat kahibaw siya na katong ilang nabuhat wala pa silay buot ato so dili pa sila dapat masilotan sa balaod kay under age pa
    confessions, pag sugid sa imong sala.. hehehe, then afterwards repentance which is reviewing one's actions and feeling contrition or regret for past wrongs.

    Dili bai, naa nay pasidana ang Ginoo nila nga labti tanan naa diri EXCEPT sa kanang fruit anang kahoya.. lisod jd ning bawal kay mao hnuon ang pag interesan, nature sa tao jd.. gamay tukmod n satanas kubit na dayun.

    wala pa baya silay buot ato nga time so basically wala pa sila kahibaw what is good or evil
    after naka kaon sa forbidden fruit, naa na silay knowledge bai.. naa na silay buot adto from what is right and wrong. and I think sayup ko kay even if wala gi mention sa bible but I think Adam and even did asked forgiveness. But because from being perfect being to being corrupt, na force out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slabs7 View Post
    unya kinsa mantang duha ani si Agustin or kanang bata? kay kanang imong example wala man mahaom sa tubag sa akoang example ug pangutana
    dli nato matugkad ang kalawm purpose, intention and overall sa Ginoo.. mao na akong punto. daghan man gd ka pangutana which is mostly literal raman pod, but in reality kung imong tugkaron ang tanan sa atong utok, impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterK View Post
    ^ ah Trinity wala gyapon sa Bible parehas ras Purgatory
    the word trinity is to describe these...

    John 10:30 - I and [my] Father are one.

    Matthew 28:19 - Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

    1 Corinthians 8:6 - But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him

    2 Corinthians 13:14 - The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, [be] with you all. Amen. ([The second [epistle] to the Corinthians was written from Philippi, [a city] of Macedonia, by Titus and Lucas.])

    Matthew 3:16-17 - And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: (Read More...)

    daghan pa bai....

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