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  1. #231

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    Quote Originally Posted by wireless View Post
    let's say na approve na ang BBL ... and then kani sila wala maka uyon sa ilang silingan like iligan or davao or zamboanga ... naa silay karapatan para gubaton kay independent state na gud sila gubot ra gyud gihapon na cya .
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    Comment daw mo ani. Dili nako mo comment sa ani na klase na opinion kay basin ma ban na sad ko for the 2nd time..hehe
    Comment lang ug tarung dong.. Basta dli lang ba bugal2x ug respetohay lang sa opinion.

    Sa tinuod dli man na layu mahitabo, they can do whatever they want if it displeases them mag revolt sila, ila man na binuhatan lage. They have the money, power and support.

  2. #232

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    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    Comment lang ug tarung dong.. Basta dli lang ba bugal2x ug respetohay lang sa opinion.

    Sa tinuod dli man na layu mahitabo, they can do whatever they want if it displeases them mag revolt sila, ila man na binuhatan lage. They have the money, power and support.
    Mao lage independendent state naman gud ng BBL mao naa silay karapatan na gubaton ta...

  3. #233

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    Quote Originally Posted by wireless View Post
    Mao lage independendent state naman gud ng BBL mao naa silay karapatan na gubaton ta...
    Disregard if naay bbl or wala makig gubat jd na sila.. If dili man gani milf kay kay down naman kuno ilang armas ana.. Naa na pd mo tunga laing groupo. Tan awa lamang ang history ug pattern sa ilang maniobra. Syaro wpa ka naka gets sa ilang style.

  4. #234

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    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    Disregard if naay bbl or wala makig gubat jd na sila.. If dili man gani milf kay kay down naman kuno ilang armas ana.. Naa na pd mo tunga laing groupo. Tan awa lamang ang history ug pattern sa ilang maniobra. Syaro wpa ka naka gets sa ilang style.
    Mao dili na lang pud ko anang BBL kay basin gubaton unya ta sa MILF kay INDPENDENT STATE na gud dayon na sila, kujawa jud diay aning MILF uy. Abi kay independnt na daw kuno gubaton gubaton na lang pud nila ilang silingan. Kujawan man pud ta.

  5. #235

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    If Im not wrong, you and Marius have same opinion on this one,
    let's say na approve na ang BBL ... and then kani sila wala maka uyon sa ilang silingan like iligan or davao or zamboanga ... naa silay karapatan para gubaton kay independent state na gud sila gubot ra gyud gihapon na cya .
    Di raw malayo na mangyari ito according to yholkz, at least now i know the kind of thinking of my opponents regarding this discussion. So now I know how to handle and what to reply for comment lik this.

  6. #236

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    Quote Originally Posted by wireless View Post
    If Im not wrong, you and Marius have same opinion on this one,

    Di raw malayo na mangyari ito according to yholkz, at least now i know the kind of thinking of my opponents regarding this discussion. So now I know how to handle and what to reply for comment lik this.
    para masayud ka sa akong take why naka ingon ko ani? TRUST... wala koy trust sa aning klaseng mga tawo, samot na mga rebelde. I dont know about you, but ako I won't take chances giving them reserve power to govern a substate much more allocated billions of the tax-payers money para aning mga rebelde. That is the problem kung imo pangutan-on almost tanan maka ingon way salig ani nila.

  7. #237

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickflag View Post
    wa tay ikagasto ug referendum kay billions pero makahatag tag 75Billion para sa ana kagamay nga lugar nga di pa jud na mga taxpayers ang kinabag-an sa population. asa ang fairness ana bro. kung ibutang pa ni nato ug pamilya naay miembro sa pamilya nga badlongon, way trabaho, abusado, unya mangunay pag pasakit sa miembro sa atoa pamilya pero tagaan nato siyag dakong kuarta mientras kadtong ga trabaho lugos na gani makakaon sa ila nga sueldo tungod kay gikuhaan nag kuarta para sa taong way ayo.
    actually boss dili gyud na fair labi na if dili ka masakop sa bangsamoro state. imagine nalang boss ang imong tax padulong ani nga subsidy. then ang tax sa ilang state sa ilaha ra. kung nangita kag fairness sa atong gobyerno boss, padayon nalang sa pagpangita.haha.

  8. #238

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    Quote Originally Posted by digitalsuperman View Post
    actually boss dili gyud na fair labi na if dili ka masakop sa bangsamoro state. imagine nalang boss ang imong tax padulong ani nga subsidy. then ang tax sa ilang state sa ilaha ra. kung nangita kag fairness sa atong gobyerno boss, padayon nalang sa pagpangita.haha.
    exactly the reason why I am against BBL. it's a stupid idea in the first place. wa gyuy merits.

  9. #239

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    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    para masayud ka sa akong take why naka ingon ko ani? TRUST... wala koy trust sa aning klaseng mga tawo, samot na mga rebelde. I dont know about you, but ako I won't take chances giving them reserve power to govern a substate much more allocated billions of the tax-payers money para aning mga rebelde. That is the problem kung imo pangutan-on almost tanan maka igon way salig ani nila.
    Who told you that the MILF will govern the substate, and who told you that the billions will be given to the rebel group? This is ignorance to the max.. Im sorry for the term. Dont you know that once BBL is passed the MILF will field its own candidates in the election for the parliament? Dont you know who their opponents might be in such election? The administration of Noynoy Aquino will have its candiddates, the present governor of ARMM and others to compete against the MILF candidates. Whoever wins will rule the substate.. The MILF group doesnt own BBL as MIsuari and MNLF never own th ARMM. The BBL is under the sovereignty of the republic of the Philippines and whoever tries to seccede the autonomous region from the country will be charged with rebellion and be punished to the extnt of the law.

  10. #240

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    Quote Originally Posted by wireless View Post
    Who told you that the MILF will govern the substate, and who told you that the billions will be given to the rebel group?
    Section 2, Concurrent Powers (Shared responsibility).

    14. Public order and safety. – The Bangsamoro Government shall have primary responsibility over public order and safety within the Bangsamoro.


    Who will managed the public order ad safety within bangsamoro? AFP? Or Armed forces of MILF? Now you tell me... are they not the revolutionary groups months ago? part of the allocations will be indirectly given to them as provisions states.

    Dont you know that once BBL is passed the MILF will field its own candidates in the election for the parliament? Dont you know who their opponents might be in such election?
    Most likely it will be Iqbal, don't you think? Or whoever will be for that matter it will be someone within their groups of friends. Opponents? You mean they will be "selecting" on the group of friends? No opponents really, who would dare run for Bangsamoro than those active leaders on that area.

    The administration of Noynoy Aquino will have its candiddates,
    Hahaha funny, you think so? I dont think they will focus on this other than national seats. They will however take part on whatever commission ARMM will acquire particularly on natrual resources since they allow the Bangsamoro Government to keep 75% of the taxes in the autonomous region, to get the lion’s share of revenues from natural resources in the region, and to get 50% of the revenues from fossil fuel exploitation there.


    the present governor of ARMM and others to compete against the MILF candidates. Whoever wins will rule the substate..
    You're so naive, in politcs labi o samot na sa ARMM nothing is in democracy. lutong macaw na kana kinsa mo leader ana .. kinsay mo chief minister, you do not know sa mindset nila.

    The MILF group doesnt own BBL as MIsuari and MNLF never own th ARMM.
    ..and yet ARMM mostly people on MNLF praise Misuari for being him. Don't own the whole area per se but the poeple, they followed his orders and defend his decisions. Who do you think will own the BBL, in a way to govern and run the substate? Dili ba mga people who is from MILF, either participated or sympathizers?

    The BBL is under the sovereignty of the republic of the Philippines and whoever tries to seccede the autonomous region from the country will be charged with rebellion and be punished to the extnt of the law.
    Where did we discuss seccession tawn? Hahaha... hoy ayawg liko dha, if ever naa man gani ana maski hint dha sa ARMM, bungkag nang inyung BBL dong.. maybe you might want to direct this idea to BIFF/ASG? and not BBL or the MILF/MNLF? LOL...
    Last edited by yhokz101; 03-05-2015 at 11:14 AM.

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