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  1. #51

    [QUOTE=Ivan James;17226374]hahahaha di sad guru bai oi. mao diay nay mahimu ana?



    uhhhmmm.. not exactly but i think it will... somehow... i mean if you want to get laid, then you find a partner, and so, need ka manguyab, but then you need to fall in-love, and when you fall in love then maybe suddenly you change your view in life..

    mas labi na jud naa na kay anak kay lahi na jud imong problemahon, dili na imong kaugalingon...

  2. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    we have intellect and conscience and logic and common sense...

    We can Find God outside of Religion...
    yes; however, people differ in perspectives..
    one may consider something as an impression of God's spirit while another may not and with both sides having intellect, conscience and logic as their basis..so how do we draw the line?
    Last edited by noy; 02-25-2015 at 04:42 PM.

  3. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    yes; however, people differ in perspectives..
    one may consider something as an impression of God's spirit while another may not and with both sides having intellect, conscience and logic as their basis..so how do we draw the line?
    That's why we have Faith. Faith in GOD which is what i implied on my original Post. Ask God for Guidance...

    Even if people have different perspective, if God will call them, They will become ONE.

    If you truly believed in GOD and surrender yourself to HIM and let him guide you, NO amount of Uncertainty will ever affect your journey because God will GUIDE you to HIM. A lot of PEOPLE came to GOD that dont have the intellect to Draw the LINE. GOD Called them. There are People who came to Christ that dont have Education, dont know how to read and write, But God Find them and Guide them. Thats what FAITH is all about.

    With regards to Drawing the LINE, For People under the Umbrella of a RELIGION, Drawing the Line Means Relying on the Doctrines and Tradition Formulated or Created by PEOPLE who they Believed Followed GOD. They use this to determine what is right and wrong. So in that case, where Did the people under religion PUT their FAITH, To GOD directly or to the PEOPLE who they believed to be the follower of God?

  4. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    That's why we have Faith. Faith in GOD which is what i implied on my original Post. Ask God for Guidance...

    Even if people have different perspective, if God will call them, They will become ONE.
    Agree

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    If you truly believed in GOD and surrender yourself to HIM and let him guide you, NO amount of Uncertainty will ever affect your journey because God will GUIDE you to HIM. A lot of PEOPLE came to GOD that dont have the intellect to Draw the LINE. GOD Called them. There are People who came to Christ that dont have Education, dont know how to read and write, But God Find them and Guide them. Thats what FAITH is all about.
    agree again..hehe

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    With regards to Drawing the LINE, For People under the Umbrella of a RELIGION, Drawing the Line Means Relying on the Doctrines and Tradition Formulated or Created by PEOPLE who they Believed Followed GOD. They use this to determine what is right and wrong. So in that case, where Did the people under religion PUT their FAITH, To GOD directly or to the PEOPLE who they believed to be the follower of God?
    i don't know where they put their faith bai, faith for me is personal. hehehe
    Since you are not bound to any religion/denomination, how do you verify if your understanding is inline with what God wanted you to understand?
    Last edited by noy; 02-25-2015 at 08:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan James View Post
    hahahaha di sad guru bai oi. mao diay nay mahimu ana?



    uhhhmmm.. not exactly but i think it will... somehow... i mean if you want to get laid, then you find a partner, and so, need ka manguyab, but then you need to fall in-love, and when you fall in love then maybe suddenly you change your view in life..

    mas labi na jud naa na kay anak kay lahi na jud imong problemahon, dili na imong kaugalingon...
    Hehehe siguru bai. don't you think it's too early for that? I don't even have my investments yet. hahaha. I do have a girlfriend but we don't do that thing. I think it's too early for that. But I do believe a time will come when we're willing to give up everything we have for the ones we love but now is not yet the time for me. I am still in the process of creating myself, my career, etc. hehehe

  6. #56
    so unsa namn ts? samut na nuon kag kalibog? hehe

    kuyog lng mo ni boss @luff101 sa sfc ay para naa ka daghn ka-istorya bahalag wala kay religion

  7. #57
    Wahahaha bitaw TS @Ivan James , pwede ra ni ang gi advice ni boss @H.Wolowitz


    Nahan ka TS? among pultahan open kaau para nimo... d jud ka ma feeling empty ngadto kay naay daghan maka tambag nimo ngadto.. hehehe

  8. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan James View Post
    Guys, I'm always wondering about things ug ganahan ko magstorya about life-purpose, lessons and etc. Then karon medyo confused ko about sa mga butang since ako man gibuhian akong religion kay mao lagi wa na sad ko kasabot. When I did that, mura ko nawagtangan ug identity. Mutoo ko ug Ginoo peru wa ko kabaw kung unsa or kinsa jud ang ginoo. Basta daghan kaayu ko pangutana. Then karon nahan unta ko na naa koy makaistorya ba about ani na butang. Nahan ko makastorya ug kanang mga. Experienced people na kay mas daghan man gud sila tingalig experience ug life lessons. 21 palang ko peru mas magenjoy man ko aning butanga unsay ikatambag ninyo naku mga migo?

    It's normal, esp with a man of your age.. letting go, is a process of change, just like chaos is a process for the attainment of peace.. it's something you have to deal with alone, because in our time, the bible, religion and the concept of god have become somewhat a subjective matter, you might not find what you are looking for when asking for anyone's advice, worse they might confuse you even more... so best that you can do is to find yourself in the word of god(bible) rather than the other way around - if you know what i mean...

  9. #59
    Dili nalang ko magbackread kay murag taas2x na pero basing sa imong sitwasyon ron bai.. Nakaagi pd ko ani. Born again christian ko since birth, amo pastor(ako lolo) permi jd nia istorya sa amo miyembro nga ang amo ra jung religion maoy maluwas. Nadugay nakaamgo ko.. Dili religion ang makaluwas nimo kung dili imong pagtuo sa ginoo. Dili ni mo-matter kung kinsang ginooha. As long as nagbinuotan ka ug wala kay gitamakan nga tao. Kanang imong giingon nga " wala mana sa bibliya" kaagi pd ko ana nga mindset. Dili tanan adto nlang jd kas bibliya motuo(mahulog naman nig religion, subjective pd ni-bisan kinsa nato naay laing2x interpretasyon sa bibliya)

    Basta simple rani bai. way ligoy2x nga storya
    Pagbinuotan, Ayaw pagdaog2x sa imong isig ka tao. Salig sa ginoo.

    Mao rana ayaw nag lisod lisora imong huna2x. Makaamgo ra unya ka..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan James View Post
    Guys, I'm always wondering about things ug ganahan ko magstorya about life-purpose, lessons and etc. Then karon medyo confused ko about sa mga butang since ako man gibuhian akong religion kay mao lagi wa na sad ko kasabot. When I did that, mura ko nawagtangan ug identity. Mutoo ko ug Ginoo peru wa ko kabaw kung unsa or kinsa jud ang ginoo. Basta daghan kaayu ko pangutana. Then karon nahan unta ko na naa koy makaistorya ba about ani na butang. Nahan ko makastorya ug kanang mga. Experienced people na kay mas daghan man gud sila tingalig experience ug life lessons. 21 palang ko peru mas magenjoy man ko aning butanga unsay ikatambag ninyo naku mga migo?
    I experienced the same thing as you do when I was in High School. it came to a point
    that I was already confused kung sakto ba ni ako pagtuo? Unsa ba gyud ang sakto nga religion?
    Unsa ba gyuy dapat buhaton para matawag ka nga righteous? and many more questions...
    Until my college days im still confused up to the point nga nagpangutana na ko. Naa ba gyuy Ginoo?
    Kay sa nakita naku sa palibot.. Naay bati .. Naay Nindot.. So unsa man gyud?
    Naa ba o walay Ginoo?


    Then one day i got so tired of wasting my energy thinking about this matter. Then I said to myself, nganung
    maglibog2x man ko aning butanga? Mura ra man ni nako gipangutana ako kaugalingon ug unsa
    ba gyud kadak-a ang Universe. :P ....

    What if I will just live my life and try to enjoy it? Nganu maglibog2x man ko sa mga butang nga dili
    naku masabtan tungod sa sobrang pagka-complicated , up to the point nga ang akong life maapektohan na?
    Di ba? So, ang akong gibuhat. Giundangan nako ang paglibog2 anang pagpangita ug true Religion and True God.
    I just live my life and enjoy every single moment of it. As long as wala ko'y naapakan nga tawo i think Im living
    righteously. As of now.. Im happy ra man.. Successful gamay.. satisfied ra sad sa akong life. I dont go to
    any church, I dont pray.. I just do what is right..and for me .. What is right is what you think is not wrong..
    that's it..

    And if God is true, i think he will understand me. After all he is the All Giving All Understanding and All Loving God.. Right??

    Bay, sa laktod nga pagkaistorya.. ayawg liboga imo kaugalingon.. Just live your life the right way
    do good and avoid doing bad... and i think having no religion and no god doesnt make u a bad person.

    There are many like you out there. And I felt also what you felt once.. Mao ra na ako mashare...
    Anyway .. That's my way... You choose yours.. .. I just want you to know you are not alone.

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