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  1. #9381

    kmusta na? murag mingaw2x na atong thread diri dah. hehe.
    first mass na unyang kadlawn sa misa de gallo.

  2. #9382
    Mga brad ug sis mangutana unta ko

    A lot of theologians as well as "learned" lay people insists that the bible need not be taken literally most particularly the events narrated in the book of genesis...kay most of it are "symbolic" man daw.

    so ang akong pangutana, asa man diay dapat sa bible ang dapat tuhoan nga mao gyud ang tinuod nga nahitabo..or should i say the the actual event or scenario that should be taken literally?

    salamat daan sa mutubag

  3. #9383
    Quote Originally Posted by shattered karma View Post
    Mga brad ug sis mangutana unta ko

    A lot of theologians as well as "learned" lay people insists that the bible need not be taken literally most particularly the events narrated in the book of genesis...kay most of it are "symbolic" man daw.

    so ang akong pangutana, asa man diay dapat sa bible ang dapat tuhoan nga mao gyud ang tinuod nga nahitabo..or should i say the the actual event or scenario that should be taken literally?

    salamat daan sa mutubag
    whenever a certain biblical narrative can be verified historically(may be through extra-biblical or non-biblical sources) and scientifically, then that narrative should be taken literally.
    otherwise, it is open for discussion until further verification can be made.

    Early church writings about Biblical narratives, Christian Teachings and even Biblical interpretations are considered extra-biblical. i believe there's no need for further elaboration on what non-biblical sources are.

    The Bible, especially the creation accounts in Genesis offers an entirely different side of truth than that of what Scientific Truth offers
    but they need not contradict with each other.
    for Truth cannot contradict Truth. see catechism of the catholic church 159.
    Happy New Year!

  4. #9384
    kay january 2015 naman.. motoo ba mo anang fengshui? labi naning mga fengshui expert ako dili man jud kaayo ko motoo anang fengshui kanang mga pampaswerte ug mga malas pero naa juy higayon nga ma tyming nga tinuod sad ilang mga gipang hula hula. unsa maning fengshui gikan ni sa yawa o sa ginoo or gods given talent ni...

    basta ako mas motoo kog ginoo kaysa sa fengshui..pero naapod usahay tinuod man pod gisulti sa fengshui expert, tayming pod ba. giunsa kaha na nila pagkahibaw noh nga maonay malas,maonay swerte,maonay mahetabo.hahaha dili gani ko motoo kaayo ug mga pamahiin.

  5. #9385
    One of the Commandments of God is not to kill. And that includes killing your own self. And that is punishable by death of your soul in hell. If you commit a grave sin and is still living, you have chances to repent and atone for the sins you committed. If you kill yourself, you just committed a grave sin and had no chance to repent at all because you died immediately after that instance. A repentant person can be saved. The suicidal ones got no chance so there's no point in trying to save his/her soul but would still be given last rites by the church. But then again, who are we to judge. Only our loving and merciful God is all-knowing, thus, He only can decide our fate.

  6. #9386
    Ask lang ko: unsay may kalahian sa predistination versus sa foreordaination ! Kani bang pagka christian o pagka islam sa tao dinhi aning atong pagpakabuhi ay kapalaran nato o nag sugod ta sa wala aning duha ?

  7. #9387
    Quote Originally Posted by Archfear View Post
    One of the Commandments of God is not to kill. And that includes killing your own self. And that is punishable by death of your soul in hell. If you commit a grave sin and is still living, you have chances to repent and atone for the sins you committed. If you kill yourself, you just committed a grave sin and had no chance to repent at all because you died immediately after that instance. A repentant person can be saved. The suicidal ones got no chance so there's no point in trying to save his/her soul but would still be given last rites by the church. But then again, who are we to judge. Only our loving and merciful God is all-knowing, thus, He only can decide our fate.
    ato lang klarohon bro, basin maglibog ang mga tao. hehehe.

    While it is True that taking one's life is a grave offese to God the Church does not condemn the souls of those who committed suicide to Hell because of what they have done. instead, the Church would entrust their souls to the mercy and justice of God through Christ and the Holy Spirit who knows the absolutes of eternal salvation or damnation. hence The church would grant or is even obliged if not encouraged to bless or pray for the souls of those who have taken their own lives.
    for though salvation has been revealed through Christ, its fullness is still a mystery to us.

    "We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to Him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance. the Church prays for persons who have taken their own lives."
    Catechism of the Catholic Church 2283.

  8. #9388
    Quote Originally Posted by hegugmaa ko beh View Post
    kay january 2015 naman.. motoo ba mo anang fengshui? labi naning mga fengshui expert ako dili man jud kaayo ko motoo anang fengshui kanang mga pampaswerte ug mga malas pero naa juy higayon nga ma tyming nga tinuod sad ilang mga gipang hula hula. unsa maning fengshui gikan ni sa yawa o sa ginoo or gods given talent ni...

    basta ako mas motoo kog ginoo kaysa sa fengshui..pero naapod usahay tinuod man pod gisulti sa fengshui expert, tayming pod ba. giunsa kaha na nila pagkahibaw noh nga maonay malas,maonay swerte,maonay mahetabo.hahaha dili gani ko motoo kaayo ug mga pamahiin.
    we all know that the Church deviates from or even restrict the practice of superstion kay basin mabaling na hinuon ang pagsalig sa mga patuo-tuo ug mawala na ang tibuok nga pagsalig sa Ginoo which is sala sa atoang pagtuo isip Katoliko.

    but fengshui is simply the study or observation/analysis of energy based on how life force energies(kanang gitawag nila ug chi) interract with various physical elements like things,places ug pinakasikat furniture arrangements. hehe an ancient Chinese art and sometimes referred to as ancient chinese science. hehe
    and if there's any truth to this study, in a much broader sense, considering fengshui's core idea is merely a form of balancing surrounding energies to promote the flow of good vibes/energies within our surroundings..
    in which as Christians we believe to be very much existent. often times we see these energies as grace or curse..
    so to speak, it's just a way(kunohay matod pa sa insik) to keep the flow of grace within our surroundings through correct interior design and the likes..

    personally, i don't practice it but as long as the practice does not fall under superstition and remain a form of art and science concerning surrounding energies then i think it's okay.

    kanang mga tarrot2x, horoscope ug unsa pa nang uban nga susamang buhat, wa ko kahibaw ug parte pa ba gihapun na sa fengshui pero murag dili na and i believe would fall under the superstition category, kana gibawal na sa simbahan..labaw na kanang spiritista2x ug tawag2x ug kalag kunohay..that's divination and occultism. against jud ang church ana..
    Last edited by noy; 01-06-2015 at 07:32 PM.

  9. #9389
    Quote Originally Posted by gilbert.repunte View Post
    Ask lang ko: unsay may kalahian sa predistination versus sa foreordaination ! Kani bang pagka christian o pagka islam sa tao dinhi aning atong pagpakabuhi ay kapalaran nato o nag sugod ta sa wala aning duha ?
    i believe God predestines all men for salvation through the advent and scarifice of Christ bro.
    but that salvation is affected by the will of men as it is how God wills it.
    i think predestination and foreordination are synonymous bro and neither would relate to religion as salvation is offered by God to all men, regardless of religion. Ginoo ray mag-igo ug mahibaw kinsa or unsaon pagkaluwas..ang nahibaw-an ra jud nato is that it will be through Christ and this doesn't even necessarily mean to become a Christian convert in this lifetime. i hope you see what i mean..hehe
    Last edited by noy; 01-06-2015 at 07:54 PM.

  10. #9390
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    we all know that the Church deviates from or even restrict the practice of superstion kay basin mabaling na hinuon ang pagsalig sa mga patuo-tuo ug mawala na ang tibuok nga pagsalig sa Ginoo which is sala sa atoang pagtuo isip Katoliko.

    but fengshui is simply the study or observation/analysis of energy based on how life force energies(kanang gitawag nila ug chi) interract with various physical elements like things,places ug pinakasikat furniture arrangements. hehe an ancient Chinese art and sometimes referred to as ancient chinese science. hehe
    and if there's any truth to this study, in a much broader sense, considering fengshui's core idea is merely a form of balancing surrounding energies to promote the flow of good vibes/energies within our surroundings..
    in which as Christians we believe to be very much existent. often times we see these energies as grace or curse..
    so to speak, it's just a way(kunohay matod pa sa insik) to keep the flow of grace within our surroundings through correct interior design and the likes..

    personally, i don't practice it but as long as the practice does not fall under superstition and remain a form of art and science concerning surrounding energies then i think it's okay.

    kanang mga tarrot2x, horoscope ug unsa pa nang uban nga susamang buhat, wa ko kahibaw ug parte pa ba gihapun na sa fengshui pero murag dili na and i believe would fall under the superstition category, kana gibawal na sa simbahan..labaw na kanang spiritista2x ug tawag2x ug kalag kunohay..that's divination and occultism. against jud ang church ana..
    kanang hula hula bitaw or fengshui wat if bro sa bata paka maayo naka ana? either sa duha. naa gani uban bro nga makakita sa imong future, hulaan ka. pero dili sila ingon nga mangingilad.. naay uban gani motoo sila sa fengshui pero motoo sila gehapon sa ginoo. kanang mga hula hula giton-an na nila or talent na sya? god given na sya or dili...

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