If someone ask you "Luwas na ba ka?", whats ur answer?

[Serene]

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First, im answering this based on my point of view.

If someone will ask me that question, i would say na, "wa pa." Not because of Original Sin, which i don't believe exist, but because gitagaan ko tanan sa Ginoo niya wa koy nabuhat for others. That is my sin.

[mr.ho_chia2]

ot: ako nalang tagai Ms. Serene, dawat ko. hehe.

[SamuraiArcher]

Luwas na kaayo....

[mr.ho_chia2]

Luwas na kaayo....

parehas d i ta bro. adto nalang ta HK. daghan sab luwas ngadto, kaattend ko church didto.

[dyosa]

who knows?

[mr.ho_chia2]

Hi dyosa.
can't we know?

[jouho]

If someone ask you "Luwas na ba ka?", whats ur answer?

hmm...^_^

Generally, LUWAS na jud ko!.

bahala mo kung moagainst mo nko.

God bless!

[rcruman]

Ro 4:5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness,
There are those who harass Christians with verses that SEEMINGLY contradict the clear Bible teaching that justification is by faith alone and not by works. They would try to make it appear before Christians that Romans is in collision with James. But nothing is further from the truth. The justification that James is talking about is merely an aspect of the wide doctrine of justification. It is not contradictory but complementary. Actually there are six aspects of justification. And I would like to present them here very briefly:
The Six aspects of justification

1) Justified by Grace
Ro 3:24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

2) Justified by Faith
Ro 5:1 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
3) Justified by power [as exerted in the resurrection of Christ
Ro 4:25 who was delivered up because of our offenses, and was raised because of our justification
4) Justified by God
Ro 8:33 Who shall bring a charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies.
5) Justified by Christ’s blood
Ro 5:9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him.
6) Justified by works
Jas 2:24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
Question: There are six aspects of justification, how do we put these together in a cohesive whole?
This: We are declared perfectly righteous by God by grace through receiving it by faith alone based on the blood of the Savior shed on the cross, through the power of God as exerted in the resurrection of Christ manifested to men by works.
Two Justifications : Before God and before men.
Study James in context [please] and you will see that James is talking about the latter. James has this idea:
Jas 2:24 You see then that a man is justified by works [in the eyes of men], and not by [profession of] faith only.

Oh yes, works can justify but not before God
Ro 4:2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God
In the original Greek, there are no commas. Abraham maybe justified by works BUT NOT BEFORE GOD. He may have something to boast about BUT NOT BEFORE GOD.
If not before God can works justify then to whom can works justify? Before men. I am justified before God by faith alone in Christ alone. My brethren cannot see my faith in Christ alone that resides in my heart [since faith is invisible to the human eye] but they can see that I am indeed justified by the change in my life.
They cant see my heart whether I am truly a believer or not but they can see my actions and be able to say: "Ah this one is truly a believer in Christ. He has been justified all right. I can see it in his life. He is a genuine brother. He has shown me his faith by his works."

Can you give me a single verse (even one) that a Christian stop doing good when they are justified (im talking about your 1-5 apects of Justification)?
Can people be justified even they don't do Good?

as far as I know by not doing sins or staying away from sins is an act of good works.

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11.

These Christians do these things before but when they know God they were washed and justified.
So by not doing these things again its an act of good works.

So to you bro. Ironside, even a Christian do these things again, are they still justified?
Or when they do these things again do the proverbs was right?:

20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
2 Peter 2:20-22.

So to your group they will tear this verses on your bible:

6 Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things.
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
Galatians 6:6-9.

and

10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Ephesians 2:10.

The ways to salvation (christian era):
1. First know the words of God.
2. Baptism (applicable only on Christian era)
3. Do and maintain the words of God until death.
Its a steps and should be executed.
Its not selecting one only as you've mentioned with your (6 aspects of justifications0.

Peace!

[mr.ho_chia2]

@rc ruman about salvation......

The ways to salvation (christian era):
1. First know the words of God.
2. Baptism (applicable only on Christian era)
3. Do and maintain the words of God until death.
Its a steps and should be executed.
Its not selecting one only as you've mentioned with your (6 aspects of justifications0.

Peace!




where then the death of Christ fits in all these?

[Sinyalan]

Ako... luwas na ko sa kagutom karong gabii... lol