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  1. #51

    Quote Originally Posted by makie29 View Post
    I'm biased sa term because its the kind of plan that gives the highest coverage per peso of premium paid.
    Premium kay based sa age and occupation and health will also matter. Mofactor in pud ang how many years to pay kay pwede man ishorten ang paying period (but premium per year will increase).
    lahi lahi jud ug ganahan ang uban... ako pro VUL kay 10 yrs fullypaid na wla na koy hunahunaon na renewal and covered na wholelife. Affordable pud pwuede ra man monthly ... gamay raman pud difference sa Term and VUL sa monthly

    Sa uban company pag TERM kuhaon, walay monthly... quarterly and annual lang. Daku ang cash out.

  2. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by op2nd View Post
    Sa uban company pag TERM kuhaon, walay monthly... quarterly and annual lang. Daku ang cash out.
    Dako ug cash out but it will come out cheaper because of the modal charges. Normally if you pay in annual, mga 15% to 20% cheaper siya compared sa monthly. Mas mahal lang tan-awon kay bulto ang bayad.

  3. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by op2nd View Post
    lahi lahi jud ug ganahan ang uban... ako pro VUL kay 10 yrs fullypaid na wla na koy hunahunaon na renewal and covered na wholelife. Affordable pud pwuede ra man monthly ... gamay raman pud difference sa Term and VUL sa monthly

    Sa uban company pag TERM kuhaon, walay monthly... quarterly and annual lang. Daku ang cash out.
    Try to check bai sa imo statements kng naa online, kng wala ba gi kuha-an imo FUND. You are still paying for the Insurance, gikuha lng sa Kwarta nimo sa Investment Component.

    And what I don't like about it, if in times nga DOWN / BEAR Market... na bigger Shares/Units ang ma deduct sa imong Investment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by makie29 View Post
    Dako ug cash out but it will come out cheaper because of the modal charges. Normally if you pay in annual, mga 15% to 20% cheaper siya compared sa monthly. Mas mahal lang tan-awon kay bulto ang bayad.
    Bitaw bai daku tan-awon...

    Pero VUL holders, try to add up ang Monthly Admin Fee sa inyong Fund Value.

  4. #54
    question mga boss... ngano ang mga bata kuha-an man og Life Insurance?

  5. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by FKtemp View Post
    question mga boss... ngano ang mga bata kuha-an man og Life Insurance?
    I agree. di man unta kuhaan ug insurance ang mga bata. some kuhaan kay pang future kuno, so investment gihapon ang main reason. Kung naka try lang ni sila ug mutual fund or stocks, makita nila ang difference. lahi ra jud kung naa kay purely investment nga fund.

  6. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by medwarc View Post
    I agree. di man unta kuhaan ug insurance ang mga bata. some kuhaan kay pang future kuno, so investment gihapon ang main reason. Kung naka try lang ni sila ug mutual fund or stocks, makita nila ang difference. lahi ra jud kung naa kay purely investment nga fund.
    Depende for unsa nga need ang gikuha para sa bata. Kay kung pure life insurance, it will come out cheaper when bought at a younger age. Pwede pod ang gi address is for a health fund.

    I agree ng kung investment ang tumong, kay pwede ra mutual funds or stocks. But there are features of an insurance plan nga dili makita sa MF or stock investments. For example, sa traditional or term insurance plans, naay fixed amount of coverage which is dili magdepende sa performance sa imohang fund. So no matter if first month pa lang ka nagbayad sa imohang premium, covered na ka sa amount stated in the face value.

  7. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by op2nd View Post
    lahi lahi jud ug ganahan ang uban... ako pro VUL kay 10 yrs fullypaid na wla na koy hunahunaon na renewal and covered na wholelife. Affordable pud pwuede ra man monthly ... gamay raman pud difference sa Term and VUL sa monthly

    Sa uban company pag TERM kuhaon, walay monthly... quarterly and annual lang. Daku ang cash out.
    You can never say a VUL plan is fully paid kay even if nakabayad na ka sa target number of years, you are still paying for the insurance through your investment fund, meaning gideduct ra ang insurance cost from whatever amount is in your fund. If you have read the fine print sa imo policy, it is even possible na kung dili makasustain ang total amount in your fund regardless of the fact nga nakabayad na ka sa imohang 10 years, posible nga pabayron pa ka beyond that to cover for the insurance charges. This is why the word used for VUL plans like the one you got is TARGET PAY, meaning the number of years that you are paying for the premium is only a target and not a guarantee. Sa traditional life insurance, when it is referred to as LIMITED PAY, that is a guaranteed specific amount of time nga magbayad ka sa premium

  8. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by thadzonline View Post
    You can never say a VUL plan is fully paid kay even if nakabayad na ka sa target number of years, you are still paying for the insurance through your investment fund, meaning gideduct ra ang insurance cost from whatever amount is in your fund.
    Ang fully paid pasabot ni stop ko ug pay on the 5th yr or 10th year... maka sustain ni basing sa performance sa AXA.

    Sa AXA, as long as imo acct value is lesser than the sum insured mo deduct na sya ug COI. Depende sa performance sa stock market, on the 15th yr. mo equate na imo acct value sa sum insured. After that wala na ni sya deduction. Ang deduction depende pud sa age og coverage...

    "If you have read the fine print sa imo policy, it is even possible na kung dili makasustain ang total amount in your fund regardless of the fact nga nakabayad na ka sa imohang 10 years, posible nga pabayron pa ka beyond that to cover for the insurance charges."


    Gi check nako ako policy... walay fine print (gawas sa main office na address ila gi fine print). So far sa AXA, wala ko naka encounter ni anha sa office kay ni reklamo ngano gipa bayad sila og addtional bisan nag premium HOLIDAY na sya.

    Duna ko 5 ka client 3 doktor, 1 seaman, 1 business woman... humana sila sa TARGET PAY na 10 yrs nya gi pa bayad sila balik. Kining seaman na client yesterday lang... humana sya sa 10yrs target pay nya gipabayad na pud sya ika 11th year na. Giingnan siya na sa 2017 pa daw mo end iya payment na pud. Mo total ug 17yrs iya pay nga tag 80k annual. Dili pud daw sila maka withdraw.

    Duna man ko kauban sa AXA na formerly taga didto na insurance, MDRT ni sya sa AXA, gi explain niya nako EVEN sya duna pud ana nga policy wala sya mahimo pud. Mao ni balhin sya sa AXA as agent. Sa iya experience wala sya client gi pabayad after na human sa TARGET DATE.

    One time pud padung mi sa dumaguete duna mi naka sakay na taga lain insurance, this is the same insurance company nga mga clients nako ni reklamo.... 16yrs na sya ani nga company but 'BILIB" daw sya sa VUL sa AXA.

    Imagine pud 198 years na si AXA sa business mao pud tingali maayo pagka dala ug kinadak-an sila sa world.

    Sa top 500 companies ALL over the WORLD .... ranked #16
    AXA - - Fortune

  9. #59
    Bottom line here is that if the fund is not performing well, you need to pay more beyond the required payment period. All insurance companies have that.

    What you are pointing out here is that AXA is doing good in its VUL that's why you haven't encountered anything like that. But for the bigger insurance companies here, all of them are performing well so to speak. We will really see the best fund performance during bear markets. I know for a fact that all of them have negative returns including AXA. Please check returns late 2007 to early 2009.

  10. #60
    Hello

    unsa nga company ang naay best offer sa term life? so far, sa ako pag search Sun life ako nakit an nga cheap and maayo. any better options kaha? open ko to suggestions.

    salamat

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