Do you believe in God? If so/if no, WHY?

[mr.ho_chia2]

pareha ta bro.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Once again, I said that with detachment from my sexual preference. The keyword is detachment. DETACHMENT.

It doesnt make any sense . If you said it detaching your sexual preference , for what CAUSE ? Just because felt like saying it ? Or you meant DETACHMENT as you DETACHING yourself from GOD because you thought and understanding from the BIBLE is that GOD doesnt want you because of you are GAY ?

Hit me with anything you got.

Mura man ug BRITNEY SPEARS .... HIT ME BABY ONE MORE TIME ! Hehehe ....

Bingo! And there goes the horrible truth... stereotypical and simple-minded.

That accusations you have there MIGA kay based ra biya ko na sa imong gipang deal na baraha . I wasnt ASSUMING anything at all ... ni base ko sa tanan na gi present nimo . That is BINGO ! You are the one who is STEREOTYPING na ni ingon na man ko na I wont use GOD is HOMOPHOBIC as a leverage to counter it against you kung ikaw STRAIGHT . Di ko bogits .

A man's girlfriend was killed. The man is an ex-convict. Therefore, he must have killed his girlfriend. Way to go wise guy! :mrgreen:

You didnt give details so dont tell me that I jumped into conclusions . In your scenario , you gave DETAILS from what GOD said thru the BIBLE and from your SEXUAL PREFERENCE .

Thanks honey! You amuse me too.

Te amo mamasita !

Doesn't make the statement any less plausible.

have you thought that you are that MAN I am talking about ? Or for your case WOMAN kung ok ra nimo ?

Yeah I know dear. And your point is?

My point is ... is less importance lang sa diskusyon but it bothers me why you associated the 2 words as if they are SYNONYMOUS . No big deal ateh .

I doubt that. I've been trying to negate your assumptions concerning my belief and sexual preference, but you just keep on coming right back with precisely the same assumptions.

As ive said .. all my feedbacks , reactions and comments are based from what you said and the cards you lay . Gi extract nako w/ no more or no less so how did that become an ASSUMPTION ?

Once again, I don't believe in your God, not because I'm gay, but because he doesn't exist.

SO when you said GOD is HOMOPHOBIC etc ... is no PUN intended ? LOLS ... When we say something out of basis , that basis equates to existence .

Your assumptions about my fear, anger or rage for your God has no reasonable basis other than the fact that you blame it on my sexual preference. Which is just a simpleton's weak and stereotypical argument.

WRONG . Ni bounce balik nimo unsay gi sulti nimo . Kay ug ang dili BAYOT makasulti ba gud ana ? Pero ug kriminal ka , lain na issue na pod na kay mahug man na sa 10 COMMANDMENTS na pod ang storyahon . Dili ang existence ni GOD . No I am not ASSUMING you are an ATHEIST , you are a THEIST that na dismaya , hates and irked because of your chosen sexual preference na ni cross nimo .

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

@ ANTI CHRIST ...

We'll change the word BY BIRTH sa RAISED . But the logic I am trying to express here is that sa pagkatao nimo bisan wala pa kay buot kung imong ginikanan ATHeist pod , dili ka makatilaw or makaila sa SACRAMENTS say sa KATOLIKO na relihiyon . Kana gadako ka walay GINOO nailhan , walay GINOO gi tuohan , walay kalibutan unsay GINOO . Unlike sa imong example na CONVERT , naa na reason why they converted . BUt deep in them GOD existed and it contradicts their belief . The main and general definition of ATHEIST is you deny the EXISTENCE of GOD . Mahug na lang na DI KO MO TUO ug GINOO but kabalo ko na naay GINOO concept .

[Chrysley]

It doesnt make any sense . If you said it detaching your sexual preference , for what CAUSE ? Just because felt like saying it ? Or you meant DETACHMENT as you DETACHING yourself from GOD because you thought and understanding from the BIBLE is that GOD doesnt want you because of you are GAY ?

I can see why you have a hard time getting this. Yes, detaching my sexual preference. The concept of detaching my sexual preference while saying something like homophobic about your god completely eludes you. It's like this, your god doesn't exist to me. And if he doesn't exist, nothing related to your god will affect me in any way. When describing your god as homophobic, it wasn't in relation to my sexuality and how your god may despise it. "I don't care if he despises it or not. I don't care if he loves me or not. I don't care if he wants me or not. It's of no interest to me." That's why my sexuality was detached when I said your god is homophobic. Now you ask me where I got the idea that your god was homophobic. A lot of sources say your god is homophobic, even your sacred book called the bible. I said it for what cause? I was describing everything about your god wasn't I?

Mura man ug BRITNEY SPEARS .... HIT ME BABY ONE MORE TIME ! Hehehe ....

huh? lol... I have no idea how you got there. lol...

ingon na man ko na I wont use GOD is HOMOPHOBIC as a leverage to counter it against you kung ikaw STRAIGHT . Di ko bogits .

That is what's called stereotyping. ...and I never said that you were uh... dumb. I wonder what gave you that idea. lol...

You didnt give details so dont tell me that I jumped into conclusions . In your scenario , you gave DETAILS from what GOD said thru the BIBLE and from your SEXUAL PREFERENCE .

You failed to see the relevance. lol... Let me rephrase it for you. "I say your god is homophobic. I am gay. Therefore, I must've said that because I hate it that your god doesn't like me." lol... I don't even hate homophobic people. I could care less about your god being homophobic.

Te amo mamasita !
have you thought that you are that MAN I am talking about ? Or for your case WOMAN kung ok ra nimo ?

Oh I know dear. Didn't shake my views one bit, it's erected on rational grounds. And to shed some light on your ignorance about the variety of the gay sexuality; I am a man. A full-fledged, red blooded, stoical, dominating, physical, discriminating, testosterone-filled man. And I love being a man. Just so happens I love men too. What? You thought I was effeminate? lol...

My point is ... is less importance lang sa diskusyon but it bothers me why you associated the 2 words as if they are SYNONYMOUS . No big deal ateh .

The way I used them didn't make them synonymous. I believe you said:

Scared asscociating your SEXUAL PREFERENCE with GOD ?

To which I replied:

What's there to be scared of?

Merely as a reaction to your claim. Then you will find that the word scared has nothing to do with the word fear I used in the next sentence. The second sentence was a statement on its own, expressing a much general idea.

As ive said .. all my feedbacks , reactions and comments are based from what you said and the cards you lay . Gi extract nako w/ no more or no less so how did that become an ASSUMPTION ?

No more no less? please... I believe you threw in a few words into the mix. Church ringing any bells?

SO when you said GOD is HOMOPHOBIC etc ... is no PUN intended ? LOLS ... When we say something out of basis , that basis equates to existence .

Yes, the existence of the source (Bible), which is a work of fiction, detailing a fictional character (God).

WRONG . Ni bounce balik nimo unsay gi sulti nimo . Kay ug ang dili BAYOT makasulti ba gud ana ?

You wanna bet on that? I have a lot of straight friends who'd love to say otherwise. :mrgreen:

Pero ug kriminal ka , lain na issue na pod na kay mahug man na sa 10 COMMANDMENTS na pod ang storyahon . Dili ang existence ni GOD . No I am not ASSUMING you are an ATHEIST , you are a THEIST that na dismaya , hates and irked because of your chosen sexual preference na ni cross nimo .

I looooove being gay. I don't regret being gay one bit. And I am so not disappointed that your god is homophobic. I say good for him! I could care less. Now that I think about it, I didn't believe in your God long before I even realized I like men. And that was like ages ago. lol...

[mr.ho_chia2]

@Chrysley

Bro max of 3 smiley lang kay ma sanction ka. edit it now before mods noticed it.

[Chrysley]

@Chrysley

Bro max of 3 smiley lang kay ma sanction ka. edit it now before mods noticed it.

Thanks mate! Much appreciated.

[JX]

tuo jud ko Ginoo oi, saon nlng.. hehe
ingon man ako mama naa'y Ginoo. Mao pd ingon sa ako lola,
Ug si einstein pod kuno motuo ug Ginoo, tuo pod ko..

and einstein was a deist.. exactly..

[anti-christ]

@springfield

yes, we we're all born atheist. probably.
but, my point is...who chose for me to become a christian, not islam-buddhism-etc.? was it me, NO.
who then...parents, society?

if you grew up, somewhere in the middle-east, you'd have a different religious inclination.

i mentioned this to ronna too:
would you marry a guy that you dont know, only because your parents told you and society thinks he's good for you?




btw, einstein was a DEIST

[mr.ho_chia2]

but the word of GOD (bible) is not limited in Christian countries only sir anti_C, it reaches places even in Muslim, Buddhist and other non christian countries. in fact there are christians in those so-called none christian countries....... which goes to show that actually it is by choice that define who we are and what we believe in.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

I can see why you have a hard time getting this. Yes, detaching my sexual preference. The concept of detaching my sexual preference while saying something like homophobic about your god completely eludes you. It's like this, your god doesn't exist to me. And if he doesn't exist, nothing related to your god will affect me in any way. When describing your god as homophobic, it wasn't in relation to my sexuality and how your god may despise it. "I don't care if he despises it or not. I don't care if he loves me or not. I don't care if he wants me or not. It's of no interest to me." That's why my sexuality was detached when I said your god is homophobic. Now you ask me where I got the idea that your god was homophobic. A lot of sources say your god is homophobic, even your sacred book called the bible. I said it for what cause? I was describing everything about your god wasn't I?

It implies HATRED . Those descriptions you gave are all HATRED rooted from who you are . Dont tell me I am speculating again for I wasnt born yesterday . LOLS ... Now hating something proves its existence . You are not describing , because if you are DESCRIBING my so called GOD , why are all the adjectives in a negative nature . I know theres at least ONE adjective in GOD that is in a positive way . You heart was pure HATRED , if its not your SEXUAL PREFERENCE because you are GAY then what is it fafah CHRYSLEY ?

huh? lol... I have no idea how you got there. lol...

Seryosoha pod nimong bayota ka oi ... got any SENSE of HUMOR there pal ?

That is what's called stereotyping. ...and I never said that you were uh... dumb. I wonder what gave you that idea. lol...

STEROTYPING is GENERALIZING . I was detailed and precise in what I said towards you basing from your own cards that you layed .

You failed to see the relevance. lol... Let me rephrase it for you. "I say your god is homophobic. I am gay. Therefore, I must've said that because I hate it that your god doesn't like me." lol... I don't even hate homophobic people. I could care less about your god being homophobic.

Dig deeper ... root it ! It will bring out the WANNABE ATHEIST in you . You being GAY and GOD being HOMOPHOBIC DESCRIPTION of yours are only formulas to extract of who and how you really are .. now tell me I am STEREOTYPING ateh .

If someone could care less of something ie GOD is HOMOPHOBIC and so on so forth , kadaghan s aimong gi describe niya . Not that it offended me , as ive said it amused me your DENIAL of HIS EXISTENCE but there you are TALKING about HIM . Silly isnt it ?

Oh I know dear. Didn't shake my views one bit, it's erected on rational grounds. And to shed some light on your ignorance about the variety of the gay sexuality; I am a man. A full-fledged, red blooded, stoical, dominating, physical, discriminating, testosterone-filled man. And I love being a man. Just so happens I love men too. What? You thought I was effeminate? lol...

What kind of LOVE are you talking about ? SEXUAL LOVE ? Yes enlighten my IGNORANCE inday CHRIS . Sure ka RED BLOODED and nbot GREEN BLOODED ? Hehehe ....

The way I used them didn't make them synonymous. I believe you said: To which I replied: Merely as a reaction to your claim. Then you will find that the word scared has nothing to do with the word fear I used in the next sentence. The second sentence was a statement on its own, expressing a much general idea.

Please clarify it ..... NEXT SENTENCE or the SAME SENTENCE ? Ayaw lage buanga ang buang na daan .

No more no less? please... I believe you threw in a few words into the mix. Church ringing any bells?

Give details dayon .... it was all based on GOD being HOMOPHOBIC and YOU being GAY and its a FRICTION .

Yes, the existence of the source (Bible), which is a work of fiction, detailing a fictional character (God).

But if GOD is not HOMOPHOBIC according to you .... you will probably own dozens of copies of the HOLY BIBLE ateh ?

You wanna bet on that? I have a lot of straight friends who'd love to say otherwise. :mrgreen:

I have friends too who are ACTUAL ATHIEST who are NOT GAY and STRAIGHT as an ARROW doesnt resort even to the word GOD but the word god . They dont signify , care , even talk about it as an importance much more describe them kay mo contradict lage na sa ilang ideals of DENIAL oh HIS existence . Otherwise BAYOT lang gyud ka ug BA^BA^ diay thus the adjectives ? Smile diha beh ateh ,... hihihi !

I looooove being gay. I don't regret being gay one bit. And I am so not disappointed that your god is homophobic. I say good for him! I could care less. Now that I think about it, I didn't believe in your God long before I even realized I like men. And that was like ages ago. lol...

Sounds like more of an EXCUSE now . If someone could really CARE less ... even the thought of saying the word GOD is your last priority much more of giving descriptions to GOD . Aguy ners ... ano ba talaga koyang ?