God's Existence Has Been DISPROVEN!!! (Well, Almost)

[JX]

hahaha,
may pagka OT na man ni gamay. hehe

@Sinyalan
mga terminolohiya nga imo gigamit, naglibog lng man gud ko pagsabot sa thought.

patriotism gani buot pasabot positibo nga batasan na sa tao alang sa iyang nasod. walay connection sa relihiyon ug sa Ginoo.
Salvation gani, pwedeg pasabot nmo
1.deliverance = maluwas ka sa silot sa sala
2.redemption = maabot ka sa ginhharian sa Ginoo.
Tribal laws gani buot pasabot, pareha ba sa gobyerno karon, naa'y simbahan, naa pod gobyerno, lahi ra na sila. Naa pa gani na sa Philippine Constitution. Ang separasyon sa Gobyerno ug simbahan.
Civilization gani buot pasabot tanang lugar nga naay mga tao, naay panginabuhian, naay kaugalingon kultura, mao nay twag civilisasyon.
Education gni buot pasabot ang pagtudlo sa usa ka tao.
Kung wala ang edukasyon naa gihapon ang civilisasyon. Di man na pareha. hehe.
Pareha ba diay ang CGFNS/NCLEX sa Local Boards? Ila pd to nga standard sa edukasyon sa gwas.
Pwede man civilized ang tao bsan wla kaeskwela dba?
History: di man pod kay usa ra ka barko naabot dre. Igo diay tanan pusil, tanan kanyon sa usa ka dunggo lng?
So, d ta kaingon nga nasaag ra sila.
D man pod ky sa christianity ra, daghan man pd uban relihiyon nga daghang nangamatay,
ug historically, sa kadaghang isla sa pilipinas, d man tanan nikontra, ang uban nidawat man, pagkunsolta ug kasaligan nga historyan.
Predominant(pinaka komon) ang christianity sa europa ug america.
Wise as in wa-is ba, tan.awa mga trabaho sa mga national heroes nato, kontra sa mga abusadong kastila nga pari sa una.Dali ra mailad ba.
Ang Ginoo, Ginoo..
ang relihiyon, sistema sa pagsimba sa Ginoo.

[rcruman]

Kung kuhaon nato ang logic ani nilang nangitag physical existence sa Ginoo kay ani:

Tuo sila nga naa sila utok pero ang pangutana kita ba sila sa ila utok.
Tuo sila naay computer pero ang pangutana kita ba sila sa nagbuhat (gawas sila ang nagbuhat sa computer).
Tuo sila bugnaw ang Antartica pero wala pa sila kaadto (gawas kung nakaadto na) so mahulog nga dili tinuod ang antartica.

What I mean is that, things are not experienced or seen physically are not true to these people.
That is why they don't believed God because they don't have God and they don't want to follow the Law because they do what is prohibited by the Law. SO in order to escape from following just ignore the creator so that there's no burden to carry that They committed sins.

Peace!

[JX]

I found out that he doesn't exist. period. How will I embrace something that I can't see, feel, hear, and talk back to me while I am talking?

I don't want to belong to those people that are Schizophrenic. No pun intended.

Well, we have different perception of reality, got to respect that.. My reality is not your reality.
(Litterally embrace),
no comment. hahaha,

[Sinyalan]

So everything you believed has physical existence?
How sure are you that your mother is your true mother (without using first DNA test)?
As of this moment way back till the time you're born you believed that she is your mother because you can feel it.
And if you have son/daughter are you sure it is yours( without using first DNA test)?
Can you see anger? (not the manifestation).
Can you explain laughter?

All of my query to you are actually happening to you many times, can you explain it why through physical existence?

God is spirit and no one can see spirit but rather feel the spirit.

Tell me frankly bro sinyalan, do you believe on spirit?

Peace!

Read properly rcruman... do I need to reiterrate everything to you or spoon fed you? It's a clear statement.. what more you can ask? Unless if you want to discuss more fruitful discussion then I can exchange things upto my best ability. If not, you're just wasting your precious time. okay?

[Sinyalan]

hahaha,
may pagka OT na man ni gamay. hehe

@Sinyalan
mga terminolohiya nga imo gigamit, naglibog lng man gud ko pagsabot sa thought.

patriotism gani buot pasabot positibo nga batasan na sa tao alang sa iyang nasod. walay connection sa relihiyon ug sa Ginoo.
Salvation gani, pwedeg pasabot nmo
1.deliverance = maluwas ka sa silot sa sala
2.redemption = maabot ka sa ginhharian sa Ginoo.
Tribal laws gani buot pasabot, pareha ba sa gobyerno karon, naa'y simbahan, naa pod gobyerno, lahi ra na sila. Naa pa gani na sa Philippine Constitution. Ang separasyon sa Gobyerno ug simbahan.
Civilization gani buot pasabot tanang lugar nga naay mga tao, naay panginabuhian, naay kaugalingon kultura, mao nay twag civilisasyon.
Education gni buot pasabot ang pagtudlo sa usa ka tao.
Kung wala ang edukasyon naa gihapon ang civilisasyon. Di man na pareha. hehe.
Pareha ba diay ang CGFNS/NCLEX sa Local Boards? Ila pd to nga standard sa edukasyon sa gwas.
Pwede man civilized ang tao bsan wla kaeskwela dba?
History: di man pod kay usa ra ka barko naabot dre. Igo diay tanan pusil, tanan kanyon sa usa ka dunggo lng?
So, d ta kaingon nga nasaag ra sila.
D man pod ky sa christianity ra, daghan man pd uban relihiyon nga daghang nangamatay,
ug historically, sa kadaghang isla sa pilipinas, d man tanan nikontra, ang uban nidawat man, pagkunsolta ug kasaligan nga historyan.
Predominant(pinaka komon) ang christianity sa europa ug america.
Wise as in wa-is ba, tan.awa mga trabaho sa mga national heroes nato, kontra sa mga abusadong kastila nga pari sa una.Dali ra mailad ba.
Ang Ginoo, Ginoo..
ang relihiyon, sistema sa pagsimba sa Ginoo.

good points but the ideas that I am inclined was through our ancestors. If religion was in to that discussion we have, then my purpose was to differentiate between first people before christianity sets in to our land. Salamat for that clarifications.

[anti-christ]

You mean you are telling everyone that you are also like a child asking why, why, why, why. But not the 21st century equivalent type like me as you quoted? Oh. LOL.

Actually, you have two options on seeking the truth. Let's simply enumerate the process on my little opinion.

1. You ask yourself why . . . . .
2. You research from books, internet, ask other people, . . .
3. You get/receive answers . . . .

Here, you find conflicts from the answers then it branches out into two. Either,
1. You align your thought with the church/or any religion that you believe in a God because you are enlightened by a Supreme being. Or,
2. You challenge the idea about the existence of God because you don't want to align with any religion at all. Maybe because you get answers and read more on disproving Gods existence. You concentrate on it and too conceited to influence everyone and mock the Supreme Being. (note: this really depends on the upbringing of the parents)

The 2nd option interest you very much thus you choose being a misotheist. Right.
Again, there might be reasons behind that only you know and other people don't know. That's your private life anyway.

Christian's = "21st century equivalent" Hmm
Misotheist = ? unknown equivalent since doesn't believe in God NOR Evil beings. Maybe, NOR and equivalent. Hahaha

Hmmm. Anyway, i'll throw this question to you Satanist, have you ever find any truth being a misotheist? Hmm.

Your avatar code name again caught my attention. Anti-Christ huh. A very well thought name. Well, read this if you might react on the Satanist word.

From WIKIPEDIA:

"In Christian eschatology the Antichrist or Anti-christ (literally: anti, 'opposite', 'against', 'as if' or in place of; christ, anointed one) has come to mean a person, image of a person, or other entity that is an embodiment of evil. The name antichrist derives from the books of 1 and 2 John, which describe any who denies Christ to be antichrists. The term is also often applied to prophecies regarding a "Little horn" power in Daniel 7, and is used in conjunction with many end times teachings.

Antichrist is translated from the combination of two ancient Greek words αντί + χÏ�ιστος (antÃ* + khristos), which can mean anti "opposite" (of) khristos "anointed" therefore "opposite of Christ" (the meaning of christ as 'anointed one' having become secondary to its meaning as the honorific of Jesus of Nazareth) or anti "as" (if) khristos "messiah" thus "in place of Christ". An antichrist can be opposed to Christ by striving to be in the place of Christ. The term itself appears 5 times in 1 John and 2 John of the New Testament — once in plural form and 4 times in the singular, and is popularly associated with the belief of a competing and assumed evil entity opposed to Jesus of Nazareth. . . .

Christian denominations disagree on what will happen in the end times, and the role that Satan and the Antichrist will play. Among them are those who believe that the antichrists of whom John wrote are instead a single individual and expect this one person to rise in the future. There is a consensus that sometime prior to the expected return of Jesus, there will be a period of "trials and tribulations" during which the Antichrist, inspired by Satan, will attempt to win supporters with great works, and will silence anyone or make enemies of any country that refuses their allegiance (by refusing to "receive his mark" on their foreheads or right hands). This "mark" is expected to be required to legally partake in commerce, as noted in Revelation 13:16,17 Some Christians believe that the Antichrist will be assassinated half way through the Tribulation, being revived and indwelt by Satan. The Antichrist will continue on for three and a half years following this. . . . ."

We'll its really hard to align your thoughts with any religion worshipping on a Supreme Being, God/Alah/Budha. Maybe you didn't grow in the influence of religious people when you were still a child.

thats just plain *****ic.

The problem is that gods/religion used to be the default way of explaining the physical world, a role that has long been superseded by science.

"Science" and "religion" are such vague concepts. How about this: "Some scientific axioms conflict with personal religious convictions." It's more the believers who have problems with certain scientific ideas.

It is wrong when, like in the case of Creationists(now Inteligent Design), religion claims that it knows more about the history of the earth than the scientists who study it. When Bishop Usher claims that the earth is only 6000 years old despite carbon dating, fossils.

now you judge me by my "nick"...pathetic, dum-dum. fine, i'll just borrow this words from your dusty old book then.

Not everyone who calls me their Lord will get into the kingdom of heaven. Only the ones who obey my Father in heaven will get in. On the day of judgment many will call me their Lord. They will say, “We preached in your name, and in your name we forced out demons and worked many miracles.� But I will tell them, “I will have nothing to do with you! Get out of my sight, you evil people!� (Mat. 7:21-23, CEV)

It said those people that call him Lord. Do skeptics and non-believers call Jesus lord?

It said those who preached his name and those who use his names to forced out demons and worked many miracles. Do non-believers preached Jesus name? Do atheists forced demon out and do miracles in Jesus name?

RAMEN

[anti-christ]

Parsons et al wont claim of a Mito Eve,its because of mutation and mutation rate(D-loop); RFLP analysis (as used by Parsons et al and Howell et al) is not a an appropriate approach to determine mutational rates; whole genome sequencing as used by Ingman et al is more accurate.

parsons research of mito eve living around 6500 years ago(RFLP analysis), while the most recent study using the most appropriate techniques confirm the date of matrilineal MRCA at between 150,000 and 200,000 years.

Its just age.. in oak barrels.. hehe,

Conclusion

No-one in the science community thought that the Parsons et al study supported a matrilineal MRCA of 6,500 years. Nevertheless their work did result in discrepancies between the known date of human geographic dispersion (at least 60,000 years BP) and the apparently very high rate of mitochondrial mutation, which, if taken at face value, would yield a matrilineal MRCA 6,500 years ago.

As a scientist of course, he wont, without hard evidence, claim at that instant, since there are a number of considerations:

1. We need to explain the variation in mutational rates in pedigree studies based on analysis of the D-loop. It is clear that at least some of this variation can be explained by statistical variations in small samples of a stochastic process. However, pooling all the data still leads to a 'factor of five' discrepancy, between the rate measured by pedigree and phylogenetic studies
2. We need to consider whether the mitochondrial DNA does, in fact, mutate at a fixed rate, and therefore whether it will provide a good 'clock' for dating genomic events. Furthermore, we must consider whether some parts of the mitochondrial genome are more 'clock-like' than others.
3. We need to consider the fundamental differences between pedigree and phylogenetic studies. Pedigree studies, particularly those that compare the genetic make-up of close relatives, measure a rate of mutation from one generation to the next Phylogenetic studies, or pedigree studies that compare broad populations that have been in existence for many generations will yield a rate of fixed mutations or permanent substitutions in that lineage's genome. These rates might be different, because mildly deleterious mutations will be eliminated over time from the gene pool, and because in some cases, a particular mutation might mutate back to the original sequence
4. We need to consider the possibility that mitochondrial mutations usually occur in some, but not all, of the thousands of copies of mitochondrial DNA present in each cell. Such a condition is called mitochondrial heteroplasmy, and, if it occurs in the germ line, can result in tissue mosaicism (different mitochondrial DNA in different tissues). It is frequently deleterious
5. We need to consider whether restriction fragment length polymorphism analysis (RFLP) is a good technique for estimation of mutation rate.

and by that authors prediction.. nahh.. he can predict all he want,descredited anyways, whats 20 years to a 100,
but for me,
in God's time..

mutants? hehe,

The existence of Mitochondrial Eve and Y-chromosomal Adam does not imply the existence of population bottlenecks or a first couple. They each co-existed within a large human population. Some of these contemporaries have no living descendants today, and others are ancestors of all people alive today. No contemporary of Mitochondrial Eve is an ancestor of only a subset of people alive today, because she lived much longer ago than the identical ancestors point.

(DNA similarity) & due to mutation & rate of mutation, of course it cant and it wont imply the existence of pop bottle.

so it has been proved to be tried to be disproven, but still not.. hehehe..

i dont know what your sources are, but the scientific community has not acknowledge the the existence of the human race just, from 2 people....limited gene pool, would make all of us retards by now. even the mitochondiral eve does not imply the the adam and eve.
Allan Wilson's naming Mitochondrial Eve after Eve of the Genesis creation story may be considered unfortunate in that it has led to some misunderstandings among the general public. A common misconception is that Mitochondrial Eve was the only living human female of her time — she was not. Had she been the only living female of her time, humanity would most likely have become extinct due to an extreme population bottleneck.


of did you even know what circular reasoning? its a logical fallacy....begging the question.

RAMEN

[Keldricus]

RAMEN

OT
Pastafarian ka diay, anti-christ? hehe

[munzter666]

^^you know the FSM too.hehehe how about the IPU's....toinks

that is for you to find out.
seek it with all your heart so you shall find.
if you find it hard to embrace, maybe you dont deserve God. just maybe, who am i to say. hehe.

duhhh, he is your god.
God is not something they have to disprove. It's something believers have to prove. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, but neither is it evidence of presence.

anyway, it's pointless. all you have really is the "bible said so". so keep the change.


theist's always say: you cant disprove God's existence.

you cant disprove bathala, zeus and company the same way...you cant even disprove the IPU and FSM for that matter.

[mr.ho_chia2]

OT
Pastafarian ka diay, anti-christ? hehe

OT: ako pud

Nahan ko Chicken Wanton or Beef Wanton Ramen. Yum yum.