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    Default Re: The Church is responsible for over population in the Phils.


    Although I consider myself a good Catholic, the one teaching of the church I don't agree with is that on birth control by a married couple.

    I do not follow the reasoning on "natural" birth control, or using the rhythm method. To me, that is even more abhorrent and more unnatural than using a condom or taking the pill because it reminds me of insects or animals that mate on a seasonal basis. Among humans, the urge to have *** is spontaneous, and can happen anytime so the rhythm method makes me feel like a lowly creature.

    *** is also one way a married couple can express their love for each other. So having to express it only when the wife is "not" fertile? THAT's really unnatural!

    It's way past time the Church open up on birth control. I will never promote or consent to abortion, but the Church should really consider its stand on birth control.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorothea
    ^the church promotes natural family planning...doesn't that take self-control?

  2. #272

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubioz
    Although I consider myself a good Catholic, the one teaching of the church I don't agree with is that on birth control by a married couple.

    I do not follow the reasoning on "natural" birth control, or using the rhythm method. To me, that is even more abhorrent and more unnatural than using a condom or taking the pill because it reminds me of insects or animals that mate on a seasonal basis. Among humans, the urge to have *** is spontaneous, and can happen anytime so the rhythm method makes me feel like a lowly creature.

    *** is also one way a married couple can express their love for each other. So having to express it only when the wife is "not" fertile? THAT's really unnatural!

    It's way past time the Church open up on birth control. I will never promote or consent to abortion, but the Church should really consider its stand on birth control.
    this is by far one of the smartest post i've read so far in this topic. i totally agree with you!

  3. #273

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubioz
    Although I consider myself a good Catholic, the one teaching of the church I don't agree with is that on birth control by a married couple.

    I do not follow the reasoning on "natural" birth control, or using the rhythm method. To me, that is even more abhorrent and more unnatural than using a condom or taking the pill because it reminds me of insects or animals that mate on a seasonal basis. Among humans, the urge to have *** is spontaneous, and can happen anytime so the rhythm method makes me feel like a lowly creature.

    *** is also one way a married couple can express their love for each other. So having to express it only when the wife is "not" fertile? THAT's really unnatural!

    It's way past time the Church open up on birth control. I will never promote or consent to abortion, but the Church should really consider its stand on birth control.
    ang kanang natural planning maayo ra na kung ang babae regular iyang period.

    what if dili... dili man tanan ingon ana gud... . murag ilang mentality ang *** para lang sa 'PROCREATION' ang *** gift man na sa married

    couple gikan ra sad sa Ginoo para ma enjoy sad nila, og maka tabang sa ilang relationship. mura na man noon ang *** dirty og irresponsible act,

    kung ang married couple dili ka control sa ilang urge...
    naay ko question... ngano man sad gi himo man sa Ginoo na enjoyable

    ang *** kung ang purpose ra diay Niya para lang procreation?so, i do believe dili lang procreation ang purpose sa Ginoo mao na iyang gi

    himong enjoyable ang ***. so, dili ko pabor sa stand sa catholic church... tan'awa daghan pobre kay daghan man sad sila og

    mga anak, maglisod sila og apas sa gastohan... usahay gani ang anak na ang magbuhi sa pamilya, instead sa ilang parents...

    sa parents man unta ning responsibility and obligation, and dili gud necessary sa anak... mao nang mga anak

    dili na lang katiwas ug skwela kay mutrabaho na man lang... unya dira na sad ang cycle sa proverty... cycle cyle lang...



    pero sa ako lang na opinion about sa kanang mga artificial birth control, sa akong natunan sa skelahan...

    dili ra sad ko pabor anang IUD, kay maka promote ni og abortion, kay naa naman contraception nahitabo tapos,

    murag gipabuto para dili madayon pagkahimo ang embryo... ok pa guro ang condom og pills, injection...

    ang pills and injection gi control lang ang hormones ani... pero wala'y nahitabong conception.



    so, i do believe sa kadaghang catholico sa pilipinas, daghan sad mo beleive sa stand sa catholic church regarding ana mao nang

    daghan ang atong population. maayo lang ni na sa time ni Abraham kay gamay pa man

    tong population ato tapos daghan pay resources... karon? daghan na ta, what if wala'y control... aw population explosion with scarce

    na resources... ang mahitabo ani... gutom!



  4. #274

    Default Re: The Church is responsible for over population in the Phils.

    ^^Abraham and incest and orgy

    *BANG-ARK, from the creators of bangbus


  5. #275

    Default Re: The Church is responsible for over population in the Phils.

    Quote Originally Posted by anti-christ
    ^^Abraham and incest and orgy

    *BANG-ARK, from the creators of bangbus

    ngano imo man nang gi apilon ang incest og orgy oi... ayaw na kay EVIL nah! ikaw gyud anti christ... anti christ gyud...

    unsay bang-ark oi creator of bangbus... mura man nang BANGUS hahaha

    basi mu yawyaw ka og mo chant diri ha... IN JESUS NAME! hahah

    *debate na sad ni way lain....

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    Default Re: The Church is responsible for over population in the Phils.

    The citizens per se, are basically accountable for responsible family planning.
    Why should any entity be responsible for it?

    Although, the church and other agencies have an implicit duty to inform their constituents..

    Now, go forth and multiply.. with restraint.

  7. #277

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    di man tingali kay gasige man silag hagad sa mga tao na magpari ug magmadre. daghan naman gani guapo ug guapa sa mga seminaryo ug pangmadrihan na kumbento.

    di man sila magpagamit ug condom pero di man pud nila paminyoon ilang mga pari ug mga madre, mga guapo ug guapa pa gyud. mas mayo ta nang mga ingana kay bisag kada gabii lami gyud pero saon naa naman sila sa seminaryo ug mga kumbento mag-antos nalang ta diri sa mga arang-arangan nalang.

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    Default Re: The Church is responsible for over population in the Phils.

    in other words, celibacy maoy solution whahahaha

  9. #279

    Default Re: The Church is responsible for over population in the Phils.

    Quote Originally Posted by anti-christ
    ^^Abraham and incest and orgy

    *BANG-ARK, from the creators of bangbus

    incest? could be, prohibited in our society but then incest can be observed even today in other cultures or religion.
    orgy? specifically, group ***, which is not related to abraham nor to bangbus(voyeurism maybe).

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    Default Re: The Church is responsible for over population in the Phils.

    Quote Originally Posted by shimiyu
    The citizens per se, are basically accountable for responsible family planning.
    Why should any entity be responsible for it?

    Although, the church and other agencies have an implicit duty to inform their constituents..

    Now, go forth and multiply.. with restraint.
    naa sad gyud influence ang catholic church shim oi, tan'awa before naa mo hatag sa Philippines og aid para sa family planning diri... pero ang Catholic church gi influencesan ang atong goberno, si pres. arroyo catholic man, mao dili siya kaayo ka go against sa church maski ganahan siya og family planning na program... tungon ani dili na kaayo seryoso ang pag implement sa family planning... mao na ang obang countries na ni tabang nato hatag og contraceptive dili na kaayo sila mo tabang sa ato... mao gi kuha nila ang ilang aid sa ato. unya di gud tanang pobre makaafford anang condom, ang uban ana nag salig ra sad sa mga health centers... pero minimal na lang ilang supply kay tungod ang ubang countries wala na man ni support sa family planning program sa philippine kay dili kuno kaayo seryoso. mao na ang ubang pobre di sad ka control og magsigi nalang og buntis.

    so, therefore sa aning mga example maka ingon ko naa gyu'y influence ang catholic church maski papaano.

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