God's Existence Has Been DISPROVEN!!! (Well, Almost)

[Sinyalan]

its ok to disagree. but that doesn't changed my truth. to you i'm brained washed, to me you are blinded.

as i have said none is righteous, except GOD who justify the sinners.

To you i'm blinded but to me I opened my eyes for the right reasons. "justify" meaning killing them? Yet he loves people for what they are... talk about justifiable acts.

[mr.ho_chia2]

nope, justify doesn't mean killing. it means we are to be punished because of our wrong doings, but because HE who without sin became sin for our transgressions, we became justified meaning sinless because GOD paid for our sins and therefore we are co-heirs of the kingdom of GOD. mao na ang justification sinyalan.

[Sinyalan]

nope, justify doesn't mean killing. it means we are to be punished because of our wrong doings, but because HE who without sin became sin for our transgressions, we became justified meaning sinless because GOD paid for our sins and therefore we are co-heirs of the kingdom of GOD. mao na ang justification sinyalan.

yup not directly saying but it is what it is... if you said he paid our sins... look around... does he really paid for it? I bet not, if he did, it was a waste then.

[JX]

Let's just say Spaniards didn't conquer us way back 300+ years ago, what would anyone think of now? Everyone would go probably worship what our Malay ancestors. If you ask me, I don't know because I haven't been there... but the fact was, they've been civilized with their own beliefs... came Spaniards with their Christianity not to mention their muskets and swords... I don't know about you people but the fact is, majority of us pinoys been indoctrinated by foreign god… from a foreign country. We never prosper because of this faith and beliefs from a foreign god that even don’t give anything but atrocities. Nonetheless, Christianity is supposed to unite people but there are too many religious denominations, false prophets, pretenders and sorts. Is that how god prove himself?

Probably, the americans would have baptized us with any other religion, or buddhism and shintoism from japan..
& it wasnt God, but it was human atrocities against our ancestors.
But good thing we are now educated, so as it is among ourselves to find the truth, however one would define it.

[Sinyalan]

Probably, the americans would have baptized us with any other religion, or buddhism and shintoism from japan..
& it wasnt God, but it was human atrocities against our ancestors.
But good thing we are now educated, so as it is among ourselves to find the truth, however one would define it.

Could be. But if there were no spaniards (who brought religion) our sense of patriorism would lead us to salvation not through religion... aha. Correct? Who knows what our ancestors were doing for their souls if they die... but they were civilized... but to spanish, american colonizers we were "natives" meaning uncivilized. To their standards, yes and not limited to religion - who really cares what their religion think of our ancestors basta they lived for the purpose of survival.

I'll continue this later... sugo sa lawas!

As I was saying, religion is the source... they brought their god to preach differences to their baliefs... yes human atrocities but through "devine" indoctrination. Do you call our ancestors atheists because they don't believe in christian god? Dont you think so? I also agree that we are now MORE EDUCATED to know for sure the differences and the truth behind all these.

[anti-christ]

How come you consider that you have a deceitful God WHEREIN you don't believe in one. LOL. So funny.
Its like you are rejecting now your beliefs and rather admit that you have a deceitful god. I think your god is not my Supreme God thats why he is that deceitful for you.

Now your quoting and admitting one. LOL.

Isn't it convincing?

BTW, What's your answer then anti-christ with those illusionary figures and questions?
I believe every scientist and some great engineers started to ask why is there such "illusionary figures" in and outside the universe.

Oh, It so hard to prove. It so hard to dig Gods knowledge on everything. It so hard to accept all these when you have a close mind.
Darn, we're just humans. We can't think and talk like a deceitful god to prove that the Supreme God didn't exist.

Who are we anyway? A lowly poor human being expressing his beliefs the there is no Supreme GOD? Oh my.

Ockham Razor? Hmm.

He's a Theist. Your not a Theist right?

i believe it was you who said "Like a petulant 8-year-old, we keep asking why, why, why, why. In the end, the answer is either ''just because'' or ''for God made it so.'' Take your pick. " ...dum-dum

well, early man thought "fire" was mysterious..."oooh god did it". you're a 21st century equivalent.

RAMEN!

[JX]

Could be. But if there were no spaniards (who brought religion) our sense of patriorism would lead us to salvation not through religion... aha. Correct? Who knows what our ancestors were doing for their souls if they die... but they were civilized... but to spanish, american colonizers we were "natives" meaning uncivilized. To their standards, yes and not limited to religion - who really cares what their religion think of our ancestors basta they lived for the purpose of survival.

I'll continue this later... sugo sa lawas!

As I was saying, religion is the source... they brought their god to preach differences to their baliefs... yes human atrocities but through "devine" indoctrination. Do you call our ancestors atheists because they don't believe in christian god? Dont you think so? I also agree that we are now MORE EDUCATED to know for sure the differences and the truth behind all these.

for me, i find it incorrect because, long before christianity arrived, our ancestors already had contemporary polytheistic religions (anito/Bathala). it wouldnt be patriotism as you say would lead us to salvation(by salvation by the way, you mean deliverance or redemption?)
if deliverance; from what?
if redemption; worshipping was their(our ancestors) way of salvation.

"natives" does not necessarily mean being uncivilized but rather an original or indigenous inhabitant. however, they branded our native ancestors as uneducated people(their view&standards of education of course), and by the spaniards they called them pagans(contemporary polytheistic religion worshippers), which was of course punishable.

I disagree, human atrocities we're done because of human greed, simply the christian doctrine was abused for mans own personal interest.

define:
Atheists dont believe in existence of a Supreme Being(anito/Bathala). I believe in God and search in this thread, my proof between DNA-Eve-Bible.(Science and Bible).

[JX]

i believe it was you who said "Like a petulant 8-year-old, we keep asking why, why, why, why. In the end, the answer is either ''just because'' or ''for God made it so.'' Take your pick. " ...dum-dum

well, early man thought "fire" was mysterious..."oooh god did it". you're a 21st century equivalent.

RAMEN!

God = creator and ruler of the universe. Fire is an element in the Universe. He created it.

[anti-christ]

Misconceptions Around Mitochondrial Eve
http://www.evolutionpages.com/Mitochondrial%20Eve.htm

....part of conclusion:
It seems to be the nature of creationist apologists to misrepresent and misuse scientific work. The fact that so many creationists and creationist websites latch on to the Parsons et al paper ,and claim that it is proof for a biblical Eve living 6500 years ago, (even though Parsons et al claim no such thing), demonstrates two things:

1. They do not understand or they deliberately misrepresent the concept of the matrilineal Most Recent Common Ancestor which does not point to the only female human ancestor
2. They ignore the fact that subsequent research has largely resolved the issues that the Parsons et al paper raised.


It is my confident prediction that both ill-informed creationists and those who should know better will be using this discredited argument 20 years from now. They will be as wrong then as they are now.


*go check wiki,
The existence of Mitochondrial Eve and Y-chromosomal Adam does not imply the existence of population bottlenecks or a first couple. They each co-existed within a large human population. Some of these contemporaries have no living descendants today, and others are ancestors of all people alive today. No contemporary of Mitochondrial Eve is an ancestor of only a subset of people alive today, because she lived much longer ago than the identical ancestors point.

[anti-christ]

God = creator and ruler of the universe. Fire is an element in the Universe. He created it.

see circular reasoning.