The Church is responsible for over population in the Phils.

[jay_007]

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Kuyawa ani nga topic oi... the Church is responsible for over population in our country?... in my own opinion lng mga choy ug chay ha... y man pasanginlan nato ang church? ANG MGA TAWO ANG DAPAT PASANGINLAN KY WALAY CONTROL SA LUSTING BEHAVIOR OF HUMAN BEING... economic crisis is also the cause bcos daghan mga tawo walay work, walay lingaw... d unsa pa man buhaton... and also over population happens mostly to the low class country, in which economic crisis is one of the problem.

[mannyamador]

So tell me, dude: how does one go from saying that the Bible "is history" to suddenly concluding that on its basis was founded a church that is infallible.

Uh... you really should read the ENTIRE article instead of being lazy and quoting out of context. That's why I put ti there. Oh well... yet another logical error.

[benign0]

So tell me, dude: how does one go from saying that the Bible "is history" to suddenly concluding that on its basis was founded a church that is infallible.

Uh... you really should read the ENTIRE article instead of being lazy and quoting out of context. That's why I put ti there. Oh well... yet another logical error.

What's the matter? Stumped?


Typical.



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[benign0]

And here it is again folks!

Looks like we've narrowed things down to the crux of this amusing conflict between the forces of primitivism and the forces of progress:

"On the first level we argue to the reliability of the Bible insofar as it is history. From that we conclude that an infallible Church was founded." (NB: quoted from mannyamador's copied-and-pasted post)

So tell me, dude: how does one go from saying that the Bible "is history" to suddenly concluding that on its basis was founded a church that is infallible.

Churches are founded from scripture everyday. But to conclude that in the special case of the Catholic Church we get one that is infallible. Where is the logic there? What is the basis of this infallibility conclusion?

And check this out again:

(Copied and pasted by mannyamador)

Many critics of the Gospel accounts of the resurrection claim that Christ did not truly rise, that his followers took his body from the tomb and then proclaimed him risen from the dead. According to these critics, the resurrection was nothing more than a hoax. Devising a hoax to glorify a friend and mentor is one thing, but you do not find people dying for a hoax, at least not one from which they derive no benefit.

The argument here is not (NB: sorry I make this correction from the previous post, after all, I am not "infallible" ) whether or not Jesus's resurrection was a hoax. The point of controversy is whether or not the church built by his disciples is in fact vested with the authority to speak for the Man.

And the first excerpt above shows how a yawning logical gap exists between the fact of Scripture and the tenet of infallibility.[/b]


But then ignorant and impoverished people will probably overlook that anyway.

What's the matter, dude? Still stumped?

Or are you still googling around for a response to an otherwise simple principle?






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[henrys]

ang mga bishops...

[Dorothea]

What do you think? Do you think it's time to rally in front of the church?

Dili man fault sa church. Fault sa mga tawo mismo, sigeg patuyang pa lami sa ilang gibati, wala'y self-control.

[m1000]

dako gyud influence ang catholic church oi maski papaano.

[burn_my_eyes]

Dili man fault sa church. Fault sa mga tawo mismo, sigeg patuyang pa lami sa ilang gibati, wala'y self-control.

the church is not promoting self control either.hahaha

[Dorothea]

^the church promotes natural family planning...doesn't that take self-control?

[JX]

i dont think the Church is responsible..
pro:

dako gyud influence ang catholic church oi maski papaano.

i agree, bec. of their "pro life",
and they continue to go against government programs regarding family planning.
Nya daghan gud ug christians sa pinas..