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  1. #31

    Quote Originally Posted by kentoy0224 View Post
    which technically non fit the bill
    (c) Prostitution - refers to any act, transaction, scheme or design involving the use of a person by another, for sexual intercourse or lascivious conduct in exchange for money, profit or any other consideration.

    (A) Trafficking in Persons - refers to the recruitment, transportation, transfer or harboring, or receipt of persons with or without the victim's consent or knowledge, within or across national borders.

    Klaro ayo na sir o. Kabalo na ang NBI sa ilang gepanghimo sir labaw na ug na media kay dili na jud na ma undo.
    Last edited by hamtaro.jan; 10-09-2014 at 10:37 PM.

  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by kentoy0224 View Post
    fact:

    1. woman being paid to be videotaped while having s3x
    2. woman is of legal age
    3. with consent from the husband
    4. no minors we're involved
    5. consensual transaction of provider to client

    the verdict...human trafficking...HUH?!

    definition: Human Trafficking - is a modern form of slavery. It involves controlling a person through force, fraud, or coercion to exploit the victim for forced labor, sexual exploitation, or both.

    forced? non. wife was conscientious. fraud? nope. client knows what he's getting. forced labor, sexual exploitation? like what it says, both husband and wife had to do whats best to survive. they KNOW what they're getting into. they're exhibitionist. in public that could be illegal but in private, that could just be taboo.

    my say: immoral, YES. illegal? debatable.

    so wtf?
    Murag Illegal man man guro nang PORNOGRAPHY boss. hehehe claro ana! paghimu kuno 6 bidyo unya ibaligya cgurado paksyet kas MTRCB hehehe

    Quote Originally Posted by ethzneuron View Post
    ang bana raman kaha pares sa baye? so unsay problema ani? wa man kahay ni-reklamo nga gamay og bunal ang bana. illegal ni kay walay tax..
    Quote Originally Posted by RenDLC View Post
    if the wife was not forced, why is it a crime? I believe there are some couples na lingaw2 for them to show themselves(exhibitionists) and see being paid as an incentive(murag a job that you enjoy ba)... :P

  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by hamtaro.jan View Post
    (c) Prostitution - refers to any act, transaction, scheme or design involving the use of a person by another, for sexual intercourse or lascivious conduct in exchange for money, profit or any other consideration.

    (A) Trafficking in Persons - refers to the recruitment, transportation, transfer or harboring, or receipt of persons with or without the victim's consent or knowledge, within or across national borders.

    Klaro ayo na sir o. Kabalo na ang NBI sa ilang gepanghimo sir labaw na ug na media kay dili na jud na ma undo.
    prostitution pwede pa siguro but still there are loopholes ani IF they can afford a ggod lawyer. Like i said, they can always pass this as taboo. trafficking of person, the key phrase there is "without the victim's consent or knowledge". victim of poverty maybe. but a willing victim of a crime, hardly. look guys i'm just citing technicalities. im not saying what they did was right. its all a matter of perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timoyans View Post
    Murag Illegal man man guro nang PORNOGRAPHY boss. hehehe claro ana! paghimu kuno 6 bidyo unya ibaligya cgurado paksyet kas MTRCB hehehe
    if thats remotely true bro, more than half of our film industry should have been long gone by now. pero you said it yourself, it wasnt mas produced. again, a technicality.

  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by kentoy0224 View Post
    prostitution pwede pa siguro but still there are loopholes ani IF they can afford a ggod lawyer. Like i said, they can always pass this as taboo. trafficking of person, the key phrase there is "without the victim's consent or knowledge". victim of poverty maybe. but a willing victim of a crime, hardly. look guys i'm just citing technicalities. im not saying what they did was right. its all a matter of perspective.

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    walay loopholes sir, grabe ge butangan na gane ug description. hehehe. with or without consent or knowledge sa babae still it is a crime. If you read the story again analyze why ang lalaki ra ang ilang ge pasakaan ug kaso.

  5. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by hamtaro.jan View Post
    walay loopholes sir, grabe ge butangan na gane ug description. hehehe. with or without consent or knowledge sa babae still it is a crime. If you read the story again analyze why ang lalaki ra ang ilang ge pasakaan ug kaso.
    ok i missed the "advertised" part. my bad. if advertised, coerced, that is qualified as prostitution in a big way. thanks for pointing that out. trafficking on the other hand pwede pa sila makalingkwas ani, basta dili mubali ang babaye.

  6. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by kentoy0224 View Post
    prostitution pwede pa siguro but still there are loopholes ani IF they can afford a ggod lawyer. Like i said, they can always pass this as taboo. trafficking of person, the key phrase there is "without the victim's consent or knowledge". victim of poverty maybe. but a willing victim of a crime, hardly. look guys i'm just citing technicalities. im not saying what they did was right. its all a matter of perspective.

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    if thats remotely true bro, more than half of our film industry should have been long gone by now. pero you said it yourself, it wasnt mas produced. again, a technicality.
    it is classed as Trafficking/PORNOGRAPHY period. loop holes kung loop holes, pero ato gi istoryahan dri ang Illegalities sa ilang act. OT na nang loop holes nimu ug lusot sa husgado

  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by timoyans View Post
    it is classed as Trafficking/PORNOGRAPHY period. loop holes kung loop holes, pero ato gi istoryahan dri ang Illegalities sa ilang act. OT na nang loop holes nimu ug lusot sa husgado
    Mao jud, sige ko ug sita ani kentoy0224 kay nag hatag syag wrong info sa public. abi pa lang sa mga nagbasa diri dli qualified trafficking ang gepambuhat aning mga tawhana.

  8. #38
    Qualified Human trafficking man in my opinion.


    “SEC. 4. Acts of Trafficking in Persons. – It shall be unlawful for any person, natural or juridical, to commit any of the following acts:

    “(a) To recruit, obtain, hire, provide, offer, transport, transfer, maintain, harbor, or receive a person by any means, including those done under the pretext of domestic or overseas employment or training or apprenticeship, for the purpose of prostitution, pornography, or sexual exploitation

    “(b) To introduce or match for money, profit, or material, economic or other consideration, any person or, as provided for under Republic Act No. 6955, any Filipino woman to a foreign national, for marriage for the purpose of acquiring, buying, offering, selling or trading him/her to engage in prostitution, pornography, sexual exploitation, forced labor, slavery, involuntary servitude or debt bondage;


    “(c) To offer or contract marriage, real or simulated, for the purpose of acquiring, buying, offering, selling, or trading them to engage in prostitution, pornography, sexual exploitation, forced labor or slavery, involuntary servitude or debt bondage;

    “(d) To undertake or organize tours and travel plans consisting of tourism packages or activities for the purpose of utilizing and offering persons for prostitution, pornography or sexual exploitation;

    “(e) To maintain or hire a person to engage in prostitution or pornography;

    “(f) To adopt persons by any form of consideration for exploitative purposes or to facilitate the same for purposes of prostitution, pornography, sexual exploitation, forced labor, slavery, involuntary servitude or debt bondage;

    (g) To adopt or facilitate the adoption of persons for the purpose of prostitution, pornography, sexual exploitation, forced labor, slavery, involuntary servitude or debt bondage;

    “(h) To recruit, hire, adopt, transport, transfer, obtain, harbor, maintain, provide, offer, receive or abduct a person, by means of threat or use of force, fraud, deceit, violence, coercion, or intimidation for the purpose of removal or sale of organs of said person;

    “(i) To recruit, transport, obtain, transfer, harbor, maintain, offer, hire, provide, receive or adopt a child to engage in armed activities in the Philippines or abroad;

  9. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by MollyMillions View Post
    Qualified Human trafficking man in my opinion.


    “SEC. 4. Acts of Trafficking in Persons. – It shall be unlawful for any person, natural or juridical, to commit any of the following acts:

    “(a) To recruit, obtain, hire, provide, offer, transport, transfer, maintain, harbor, or receive a person by any means, including those done under the pretext of domestic or overseas employment or training or apprenticeship, for the purpose of prostitution, pornography, or sexual exploitation

    “(b) To introduce or match for money, profit, or material, economic or other consideration, any person or, as provided for under Republic Act No. 6955, any Filipino woman to a foreign national, for marriage for the purpose of acquiring, buying, offering, selling or trading him/her to engage in prostitution, pornography, sexual exploitation, forced labor, slavery, involuntary servitude or debt bondage;


    “(c) To offer or contract marriage, real or simulated, for the purpose of acquiring, buying, offering, selling, or trading them to engage in prostitution, pornography, sexual exploitation, forced labor or slavery, involuntary servitude or debt bondage;

    “(d) To undertake or organize tours and travel plans consisting of tourism packages or activities for the purpose of utilizing and offering persons for prostitution, pornography or sexual exploitation;

    “(e) To maintain or hire a person to engage in prostitution or pornography;

    “(f) To adopt persons by any form of consideration for exploitative purposes or to facilitate the same for purposes of prostitution, pornography, sexual exploitation, forced labor, slavery, involuntary servitude or debt bondage;

    (g) To adopt or facilitate the adoption of persons for the purpose of prostitution, pornography, sexual exploitation, forced labor, slavery, involuntary servitude or debt bondage;

    “(h) To recruit, hire, adopt, transport, transfer, obtain, harbor, maintain, provide, offer, receive or abduct a person, by means of threat or use of force, fraud, deceit, violence, coercion, or intimidation for the purpose of removal or sale of organs of said person;

    “(i) To recruit, transport, obtain, transfer, harbor, maintain, offer, hire, provide, receive or adopt a child to engage in armed activities in the Philippines or abroad;
    kani klaro najud kaayu. di man sad cguroo magpataka ug publish ang news ani kung wala sila kabaw kung ILLEGAL ba ang binuhatan. kay kana news center daghan mag LAW graduate dha or mga abogado.

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