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  1. #931

    Quote Originally Posted by Vedder View Post
    Kamoy luoy kay mga uto-utong tangang ignoranteng delusional na bugong kristiyano lang mo.
    yes migo ug bright pamo "kunuhay" ngano nangawagtang man ang inyong saktong pamatasan? ana diay nang resulta sa atheism?
    Murag suicidal na nuon ug style.

  2. #932
    Quote Originally Posted by brendomar View Post
    yes migo ug bright pamo "kunuhay" ngano nangawagtang man ang inyong saktong pamatasan? ana diay nang resulta sa atheism?
    Murag suicidal na nuon ug style.
    Wa kai idea sa evolution
    Karon wa pd diay kai idea sa atheism

    Mas maau cguro mag basa2 ka daan sir

    Atheism is merely a disbelief in god.

    Nothing to do with science, attitude, ug unsa panang imong gipang mention.

    With or without religion naa jd taw nga batig batasan

    Pero ang religion ra ang mu amplify s batig batasan. Ang uban wai respeto, jehovas witnesses, suicide bombers, kna sad mga katoliko dha nga dyosnon kunuhay pero napuno ras kurapsyon, bisyo, biga, bakak
    Pakauwaw lang na sila.

    Suwayi daw sir adtog prisohan pag survey kung knsay kriminal nga d mutuog ginoo. Ang resulta ang tanan naas prisohan puros mutoog ginoo

  3. #933
    @pakinimo

    I'm impressed.
    Ikaw sir unsai level nimo sa eskwela? graduate naka?
    Does this mean nga you have better thinking than hawkings, dawkins, hitchens, harris, etc without even doing the slightest research? Hehehhe
    HS graduate ra tawn ko migo and I dont bother magtuon sa atheism if dili matake sa akong conscience to deny God. Faith in God doesn’t require you to be a degree holder, even elementary kid can have it.

    Kung naa may mga brilliant nga atheist imong gipang idol, Christians have it the same. Kinsa sad ninyo ang mas ngilngig pa aning mga bantugang Apologist? Kung naa man gani, I challenge u to engage and throw questions to them. Ari nalang ko maminaw sa ilaha migo ang use my discretion if what theyre saying fits my conviction ug sa akong pagtuo.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6cTlDn4PiU

    bitaw, kaning mga atheists migo i would say maoy pinakaluoy nga taw sa kalibutan.
    Well, this is an assertion. You are merely preaching. How about taking it to a whole new level, how about explaining nganung atheists pinakaluoy?
    I based my assertion from God’s word migo. A contrast between the gospel and those who deny it (specifically the atheists, see verses 21-22 migo).

    Romans 1
    16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
    17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
    18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
    19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
    20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
    21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
    22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,


    Mga christians hilig kaau mu praise. Puro assertion, walay argument hehehe. Tan awn daw natu ni imong argument sir bi if college level bani or kinder.
    Sige hisgot about evolution, pero sila mismo wala pa jud ka evolve into a perfect human being, able to recognize all of life's aspects.....most specially on spiritual things.
    Do you have any idea of what you are saying? Or are you basing it only on your feelings? heheheheh
    Delikado ng feelings ra atong basehan sir, so present ur argument
    I emphasized spiritual aspect migo, do you have any idea of it? Kung wala, dili ta maghuman bisan magbuntagay patag lantugi diri.

    Kani nga thought i-analyze ug gamitig logic and reason migo.

    “Asa may mas katuohan kung basihan nato of you being human, given the freewill and intellect to choose ur destiny ug sa imong present status karon (u have will, intellect,emotion) nga makasabot naka sa mga butang palibot nimo, u are able to recognize beauty, good and evil,etc. Kung gikan lang ta sa usa ka tulo sa sperm nya nahimong fully human through evolution without intelligence behind the process or there is GOD whom we are going to face one day when we die?”

    Please, try to think wisely and consider that one day youll surely die.
    I didn’t appear to be intellectual migo coz from the very start I admitted ako ang pinakaubos ug grado tingali diri. I only want to share what I have with my Christian life. God bless!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pakinimo View Post
    ...suwayi daw sir adtog prisohan pag survey kung knsay kriminal nga d mutuog ginoo. Ang resulta ang tanan naas prisohan puros mutoog ginoo
    They are still considered blind and lost migo. Im sure most of them kung nakadungog/nakasabot lang unta sa gugma sa Ginoo ug ang plano sa kaluwasan, i can assure you dili na sila maabot anang lugara. In fact, daghan mga pinisiro migo nga na evangelize and received Christ as their Saviour nga pagawas nausab ang kinabuhi ug nagpadayon sa pagserbisyo sa Ginoo.

  4. #934
    Quote Originally Posted by brendomar View Post
    ang followers tingali ni dawkins may deluded migo kay kaklaro na kasukwahi sa iyang laws ug sa iyang gipangbuhat. Tabla rag gihimo ninyog Ginoo sya migo kay mas nituo mo sa iyang commandments kaysa Creator sa Universe. Sa bagay, dili man mo makasabot pa aning spiritual things gud. Kung na level pa sa eskwela migo, kindergarten pa.

    bitaw, kaning mga atheists migo i would say maoy pinakaluoy nga taw sa kalibutan. Sige hisgot about evolution, pero sila mismo wala pa jud ka evolve into a perfect human being, able to recognize all of life's aspects.....most specially on spiritual things.
    Wala mana gihimong ginoo si Dawkins migo, ang iyang 10 + 4 commandments, guidelines raman cya para malinawon ang imong kinabuhi diri sa kalibutan bisag wala nitoo ug ginoo.

    Unsa diay ng espiritwal things migo? tagai kuno ko ug eksampol bi kai kindergarten man kuno among educational lebel kung maghisgot ta ug esperetwal things...

    Pasabta diay pud ko anang imong giingon nga "perfect human being" (kai si Superman akong nahunahuna-an) migo,"ug "able to recognize all of life's aspects". Eksampol daw anang life's aspects migo ha

    Muslim imo ginikanan migo?
    Last edited by porbidaman; 10-03-2014 at 02:38 PM.

  5. #935
    @porbidaman

    unsa diay pagtuo ninyo migo, default ba diay nga kung atheist naka mas taas nakag attainment compared to theists? depende mana sya migo.

    Ngano need paman ninyo ang guidelines kung para ninyo walay meaning and purpose ang kinabuhi? naa man kaha mo saktong reasoning in weighing things out, why the need to follow dawkin;s commandments nga sya mismo ni-violate gani?

    Spiritual things, dili pana masabtan/experience nimo migo unless youll throw yourself and be humble before God. Tingali mas kuyaw or bati panig kaagi ning mga tawhana compared sa imong life migo, but see their reactions about the presence of God.

    https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...o+christianity


  6. #936
    Quote Originally Posted by brendomar View Post
    @porbidaman

    unsa diay pagtuo ninyo migo, default ba diay nga kung atheist naka mas taas nakag attainment compared to theists? depende mana sya migo.

    Ngano need paman ninyo ang guidelines kung para ninyo walay meaning and purpose ang kinabuhi? naa man kaha mo saktong reasoning in weighing things out, why the need to follow dawkin;s commandments nga sya mismo ni-violate gani?

    Spiritual things, dili pana masabtan/experience nimo migo unless youll throw yourself and be humble before God. Tingali mas kuyaw or bati panig kaagi ning mga tawhana compared sa imong life migo, but see their reactions about the presence of God.
    Kinsa ingon nimo migo nga way meaning ug purpose ang kinabuhi sa atheists? So kamong mga belibers mao diay ni imong buot pasabot na "perfect human being"

    Pagkanindot sa guidelines ni Dawkins migo, DA BEST jud kaysa sa inyong 10 commandments.

    Kanang espritwal things migo, mao bana ang eksperiens human makainom sa espiritu sa bino?

    Last edited by porbidaman; 10-03-2014 at 03:20 PM.

  7. #937
    Religion doesnt mean will save you from salvation ... its your belief which will save you....

  8. #938
    @porbidaman

    it doesnt makes sense for an atheist to find meaning and purpose in his life when in the first place he just came from an unguided, random, existed by chance universe. Unsay kalainan sa taw ug sa lapok when both came from something nga wai intelligence and moral values?

    So why you find meaning in life? because you're a moral creature.

    Naay daghan story of conversion migo aside sa adis2 nga naconvert. Who knows your life's story will be next.

    Christianity Reason and Science - YouTube

  9. #939
    Quote Originally Posted by brendomar View Post
    @pakinimo



    HS graduate ra tawn ko migo and I dont bother magtuon sa atheism if dili matake sa akong conscience to deny God. Faith in God doesn’t require you to be a degree holder, even elementary kid can have it.
    Of course, because it doesnt require any amount of rational thinking at all.

    I based my assertion from God’s word migo. A contrast between the gospel and those who deny it (specifically the atheists, see verses 21-22 migo).

    Romans 1
    16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
    17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
    18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
    19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
    20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
    21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
    22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

    1. Prove that the bible is a reliable source
    2. Is this even an argument or just another preaching?

    Once again, present ur argument. Maau jud mo aning preach2x unya wala diay tu ika support nga argument
    I emphasized spiritual aspect migo, do you have any idea of it? Kung wala, dili ta maghuman bisan magbuntagay patag lantugi diri.

    Kani nga thought i-analyze ug gamitig logic and reason migo.

    “Asa may mas katuohan kung basihan nato of you being human, given the freewill and intellect to choose ur destiny ug sa imong present status karon (u have will, intellect,emotion) nga makasabot naka sa mga butang palibot nimo, u are able to recognize beauty, good and evil,etc. Kung gikan lang ta sa usa ka tulo sa sperm nya nahimong fully human through evolution without intelligence behind the process or there is GOD whom we are going to face one day when we die?”
    Are you really serious about this? How about "I DONT KNOW"

    D pa mo mature enough mo accept nga there are things that we do not know and cannot know?

    This response is another preaching. lol
    kung gikan lang ta sa usa ka tulo sa sperm nya nahimong fully human through evolution
    WOW
    Kasabot kag evolution sir? hehehe
    Please, try to think wisely and consider that one day youll surely die.
    I didn’t appear to be intellectual migo coz from the very start I admitted ako ang pinakaubos ug grado tingali diri. I only want to share what I have with my Christian life. God bless!
    Ako maluoy ko sa mga kristiano btaw, kay naa silay utok pero d kamao mu da ug argument.
    What kind of response is this? this isnt even considered an argument. Preaching ramani, you should say this in church, not in an intellectual conversation. Kung naa pakas debate, tabla rakag 0 points. hehehe
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    They are still considered blind and lost migo. Im sure most of them kung nakadungog/nakasabot lang unta sa gugma sa Ginoo ug ang plano sa kaluwasan, i can assure you dili na sila maabot anang lugara. In fact, daghan mga pinisiro migo nga na evangelize and received Christ as their Saviour nga pagawas nausab ang kinabuhi ug nagpadayon sa pagserbisyo sa Ginoo.
    Nakuyawan nako nimo sir da, gamit2x naman kag FACT. Wa man gani ka kahibaw unsay evolution nia karon FACT2x naka nga wa man gani ka evidence ana imong gipang sulti

    BOTTOMLINE:

    You have presented ZERO arguments. In other words, you have no point here.

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    @brendomar

    After thoroughly reading your posts, you are considered as deluded, according to my psychology teacher.
    I think you should follow noy (istoryan) as an example of a christian who can think independently.

  10. #940
    evolution vs creation ra di ie gihapon mo? agi lang sa ko ui....hubog pako

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