Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

[SioDenz]

imo actions/deeds would weigh heavily over faith...many people profess this faith or that faith but their actions are opposed to the teachings of their religion.
better a kind heart without faith

So maybe you can explain How a person can be saved Based on Good Deeds if ALL mankind have sinned and lost the Glory of God? tanan tawo nakasala man, nganu pwedi man maluwas? duna diay passing % sa amount of Good works na atung nabuhat compare sa Bad?

[gazmembrane]

So maybe you can explain How a person can be saved Based on Good Deeds if ALL mankind have sinned and lost the Glory of God? tanan tawo nakasala man, nganu pwedi man maluwas? duna diay passing % sa amount of Good works na atung nabuhat compare sa Bad?

It was just an opinion. No need to be overly affected by it. Well in response to your questions, please read below:

Are you then saying that the atheists or those practicing other religions with none or multiple Gods have no right to be saved because the basis of saving should be faith in your God?

Remember, we are born into different cultures and more likely than not, the religion you have now is the religion you were born into. What then if someone is born into a family with no religion at all but he/she acts with kindness of heart and treats everyone with just and equality, are you saying that this would not be enough basis for the salvation of his soul (if such exists) because he was unfortunate enough not to be born into your belief?

You should learn to respect each others' view of things and not profess your religion to their throat. If I may quote something that I have read previously, though not in its exact wording: "Religion is like a *****- it's fine to have one. But please don't whip it out and wave it around in public."

[brendomar]

Heb.11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please God.. kanang nga pagtuo imong gihisgutan tabla ray niingon siyang gwapo siya pero sa tinuoray lang dmd ang dagway.. Ang pangutana ana tinood ba jud kaha nga nituo sya or niangkon lang sya ana to feel good about himself?

Sakto ka nap kay ang tinuoray nga faith dili head knowledge lang. Mao man gud mostly ang pagtuo sa uban aning faith. Kaning faith nga gi require to salvation is something that youll be drawn unto someone nga imong gituohan.

Kung dili nila masabtan ning genuine faith ug kinsa ilang gituohan, maglisud jud silag sulbad anang faith alone ug faith + works. heheh.

[SioDenz]

It was just an opinion. No need to be overly affected by it. Well in response to your questions, please read below:

You should learn to respect each others' view of things and not profess your religion to their throat. If I may quote something that I have read previously, though not in its exact wording: "Religion is like a *****- it's fine to have one. But please don't whip it out and wave it around in public."

I did Not forced you to accept Mine. I just ask you a question based on your Belief. I did Not say what you believed is wrong. its just that Its different from Mine so i Ask... dont be so sensitive.

Are you then saying that the atheists or those practicing other religions with none or multiple Gods have no right to be saved because the basis of saving should be faith in your God?

How can someone be saved if they dont believe in God or Reject or hate God? salvation means living eternally with God so it doesnt make any sense for God to save someone and be with Him if that some Dont Like to be with HIM. So it doesnt make sense if we are saved because we do good BUT we dont believed in God.

And you did not answer my Question, since tanan tawo nakasala man ug ikaw may nag ingun nga mas Daku ug VALUE ang buhat. unsaon man pagka luwas sa tawo pinaagi sa buhat? naay passing %?

Remember, we are born into different cultures and more likely than not, the religion you have now is the religion you were born into. What then if someone is born into a family with no religion at all but he/she acts with kindness of heart and treats everyone with just and equality, are you saying that this would not be enough basis for the salvation of his soul (if such exists) because he was unfortunate enough not to be born into your belief?

Jesus created a Congregation for the main purpose of Spreading the word. in our times, its not a Valid excuse to say you dont know God, because every Corner, every media - The word of God is there, we can just go to any store and buy a bible.

Its just the same as saying, Someone is a good person, that someone always there for you, and that someone always willing to help you - But that someone does not Love. Do you think if you will get together as a couple you will both be happy?

[gazmembrane]

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How can someone be saved if they dont believe in God or Reject or hate God? salvation means living eternally with God so it doesnt make any sense for God to save someone and be with Him if that some Dont Like to be with HIM. So it doesnt make sense if we are saved because we do good BUT we dont believed in God.

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Jesus created a Congregation for the main purpose of Spreading the word. in our times, its not a Valid excuse to say you dont know God, because every Corner, every media - The word of God is there, we can just go to any store and buy a bible.

xxx

You are not getting my point. Try to understand my opinion with an open mind and not with a mind clouded with borderline fanaticism.

There is no denying that Jesus/God is a widely accepted idea. My point is this:

What about those, say for example, some of the katutubos who believe in the Sun or the Nature or Bathala because that has been their culture all along. Are they to be burned in hell (granting such place does exist) just because their faith is not directed to the same God as yours?

What about those who practice, say Confucianism or Buddhism or other religion/way of thinking or living - that is also their view and their culture. Are they also meant to be forsaken despite the good lives that they may lead, simply because they chose to live with such beliefs?

In hypothesis and with emphasis on the hypothesis part, let's say that it is your belief that is wrong, and theirs is right, would you willingly send yourself into eternal punishment (or whatever their counterpart of hell may be) because you were just mistaken as to who you are worshiping? Can you not therefore argue that you should be saved because you have done your best to lead a good life and the only mistake you have is that you were into a different religion, with a different supreme being--which in this hypothesis is not the right one?

[SioDenz]

You are not getting my point. Try to understand my opinion with an open mind and not with a mind clouded with borderline fanaticism.

There is no denying that Jesus/God is a widely accepted idea. My point is this:

What about those, say for example, some of the katutubos who believe in the Sun or the Nature or Bathala because that has been their culture all along. Are they to be burned in hell (granting such place does exist) just because their faith is not directed to the same God as yours?

What about those who practice, say Confucianism or Buddhism or other religion/way of thinking or living - that is also their view and their culture. Are they also meant to be forsaken despite the good lives that they may lead, simply because they chose to live with such beliefs?

In hypothesis and with emphasis on the hypothesis part, let's say that it is your belief that is wrong, and theirs is right, would you willingly send yourself into eternal punishment (or whatever their counterpart of hell may be) because you were just mistaken as to who you are worshiping? Can you not therefore argue that you should be saved because you have done your best to lead a good life and the only mistake you have is that you were into a different religion, with a different supreme being--which in this hypothesis is not the right one?

To be clear, Its in the Bible that Those who lived by the LAW (biblical Law) will be judge according to the Law. Those who Dont, they will be judge according to their conscience or Ang Dios ray mag Igo nila.

The ones considered nga Wala nabuhi sa balaod is kadtung mga Katutubo sama sa imung example nga wala Jud naka Dungog sa Pulong. Pero kanang naka Dungog sa Pulong Pero wala Mutoo dili na Counted. So if ikaw nakadungog ka sa Pulong, Duna kay Access sa Bibliya, Dunay nag Sangyaw nimu pero wa ka naminaw - it means you will be judge according to the biblical law kay nakadungog nman ka..

If Budhist kay nya nakadungog ka unsay Krisitianismo, unsay Pulong sa Dios, nya wa ka nisunod, aws part naka sa paga hukman sa balaod.

Mao bitaw nga ang Point sa pag anhi ni Kristo is to Spread the word of God sa Tibuok kalibutan before mubalik ang Dios. Sa kalibutan karun gamay nlan Lugar wa naabot sa pulong. gamay nlan lugar way Bibliya. Pero ig balik sa Dios di man jud na malokop so ang Dios nay bahala nila...

[NapoleonBlownapart]

Mao bitaw nga ang Point sa pag anhi ni Kristo is to Spread the word of God sa Tibuok kalibutan before mubalik ang Dios. Sa kalibutan karun gamay nlan Lugar wa naabot sa pulong. gamay nlan lugar way Bibliya. Pero ig balik sa Dios di man jud na malokop so ang Dios nay bahala nila...

Unfortunately Sio daghan pa kaayong lugar karon wa maabti sa gospel.. sa Pilipinas lang daan naa pay ubay-ubay nga mga unreached groups.. unsaon gud ning mga Christians daghan man ang mag patas-anay sa ihi.. ilang pundok man padakoon imbes ngalan ni Cristo.. yahay lang pa convertay ang katong mga wala pa jud nakadungog intawn kasagaran jud malimtan..

[SioDenz]

Unfortunately Sio daghan pa kaayong lugar karon wa maabti sa gospel.. sa Pilipinas lang daan naa pay ubay-ubay nga mga unreached groups.. unsaon gud ning mga Christians daghan man ang mag patas-anay sa ihi.. ilang pundok man padakoon imbes ngalan ni Cristo.. yahay lang pa convertay ang katong mga wala pa jud nakadungog intawn kasagaran jud malimtan..

True, most of Christan churches today lost their focus on preaching the gospel to those who haven't heard yet. Naa sa Lungsod ug Siyudad nga focus. I admire some denomination nga active kaayu sa pag adtu sa mga bukid para mga preach.

[jarves]

isa ra jud ako masulti ani: Good Works are the manifestation of TRUE Faith.

There are atheist who do good works. So Atheist must have TRUE faith in Jesus and they must believe that Jesus is GOD.

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True, most of Christan churches today lost their focus on preaching the gospel to those who haven't heard yet. Naa sa Lungsod ug Siyudad nga focus. I admire some denomination nga active kaayu sa pag adtu sa mga bukid para mga preach.

Yes they have the zeal and enthusiast to preach the Gospel.

[jarves]

Faith and Works go together and one is not a product of the other. The book of James compares Faith and Works to Body and Soul. The Soul is not a product of the Body or the Body a product of the Soul. A body without a soul is dead. Faith without works is dead. They say that it if your faith is a saving faith or true faith mao na mo matter pero maski saving faith or non saving faith there is still work needed.

True Faith without works is DEAD
Fake Faith without works is DEAD

Read the entire New Testament on judgement on how God will exact His Divine Justice. He will judge us according to our works and not to our faith.