Strong faith in God BUT Losing hope to Religions

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Faith in God over religion, indeed.

[noy]

I guess I need to share my experience on how I still believe in God (whatever the other religion call it), Jesus, Mary and Saints BUT ending NOT believing the practices that the churches and most religious leaders teachings (of course I'm still following the good traits).

Sauna nag serve ko sa 1 of the biggest church in cebu and believing almost everything I've heard from priests..

Mao ni ilaha itudlo :
..."Kinahanglan mapasayloon, magpabilin nga mapaubsanon ug matinabangon"...
..."Ang ubos ipataas ug ang taas ipaubos"...

... and the rest of good things...

To start and cut my story short...

1 day na shock ko ky naa known donor sa church (businesswoman) nga mosulod sa church bisan close na (9pm+) ky mg ampo ug kini gipasulod.. (ingani nga time naa pa pa sad tawo ang cimbahan ky naa pa mga choir mg practice.)..

Pero nilabay nlng ang lain mga tuig, mao gihapon ang buhaton if naa mga big donors or known personalities nga mosulod ky mo visit lng ni father or mo stay lng sa simbahan ky naa sila family problems etc... maka sulod or maka tulog sa sulod.. aircon pa..

Ang nka shock nko ky sa akong pagsabot, ang simbahan kitukod pra sa katawhan. Pero sa pila nko katuig sa simbahan mobagyo mn or kusog lang nga uwan or baha if gabii na wla gyud ko kita ug mga tindera sa kandila or tawo nga nghigda gwas sa simbahan nga GIPASULOD ky mao ang mando sa mga pari. (Of course in my thought its still right ky bacin mangawat..)

Pero dako sd nko nga pagka shock nga dagko mn diay ni KITA (take home pay ***I dont know unsa jud pangan ana ky dili mn pud na mtawag nga sweldo***) ang mga pari.. with allowance pa..samot na ang mga naay position sa simbahan. If naa mga personal nga lakaw, usahay mg pa refund pa.. (so dili jud makuhaan ang ila mga take home pay)..

So meaning...ang mahal nga relo, or mahalon nga gamit sa mga church leaders pwede na mka pakaon ug pipila ka mga tawo nga mglisod gyud intawn ug kaon ka 3 sa 1 ka kaadlaw.

Worst case is mgka bikil pa tungod sa position sa simbahan.

Of course tawo rmn ni sila PERO dili unta dapat mahitabo or ilahang buhaton ky mao mn na ilahang gisudlan. "They call it a CALL and NOT a profession..."

Mao ng start nko ug kalibog ug unsa jud ning religion. Maau ang ipangtudlo pero if magka dugay na ang pari mahimo nmn opposite ang uban niya binuhatan ug kuyog na apil ang mga church policies..

Wala na pari cguro mosugot nga wlay bayad(Donation man gihapon ila itawag bisan naa na amount) ang pgkasal, lubong, bunyag etc... nga "for Poor" mn ilaha permi isulti..

...Ang ending cguro nga close assessment nako is mas powerful ang KWARTA kaysa pgtuo sa imohang Religion...

"So I guess Religion is no different to government politics...
even if the law separates them both.."

Religion and Religious are two different things TS, just like politics and politicians..
we cannot dimiss politics simply because some if not most politicians are corrupt.
same with religion.. religion has nothing to do with religious peoeple's failures..
i hope you see my point.

[crono+death ward]

naunsa ka? christianity ang gisulti ni siodenz diha dili Religion.....you failed miserably hahahaha

as usual imong analytical og comprehension skills kay absolute zero

Christianity is NOT a religion, its a Fellowship of Believers...

re·li·gion
noun \ri-ˈli-jən\

: the belief in a god or in a group of gods

: an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules used to worship a god


is christianity a belief in god or not?

if yes then christianity is a religion

kita na ka sa imong utok?? kung wala pa, just tell me so i can explain further

[rafee]

Religion and Religious are two different things TS, just like politics and politicians..
we cannot dimiss politics simply because some if not most politicians are corrupt.
same with religion.. religion has nothing to do with religious peoeple's failures..
i hope you see my point.

great thoughts.. thnx

[noy]

great thoughts.. thnx

no probs bai,

since nagka istorya naman lang pud ta ani..ako nalang tiwason..hehehe

on church fees, it's for the Church's expenses.
imagine the bills a certain parish needs to pay, the maintenance of the Church..lights, water, sweldo sa mga trabahante sa simbahan..
outreach and pastoral programs that the Parish organizes..
like for example, sa San Vicente Ferrer Parish, naa silay regular medical and dental mission.
sa asilo de la milagrosa naay orphanage..
most parishes have feeding programs, community services, naa pa juy mass wedding and baptisms(para sa mga di ka afford ug pa special, by special kanang exclusive bah,usa ra ka couple ang minyoon and isa ra baby bunyagan)..and these services are for free..

pasagdi nang mga corrupt bro,if naay mga pari nga wala gipuy-an ilang gisangyaw..ug uban pa..
dili na nato sila tulobagon bro..ilaha na sa Ginoo..
kung naa tay enough nga evidence of a certain corruption going on within the Church.pwede ta mureklamo..
in fact, mas maayo nga naa juy moreklamo especially if there's a criminal case involved para maiban-ibanan ang mga badlungon..hehehe..

point bai is that kanang church fees although pwede na ma abusaran sa mga abusado..it is actually a necessity para sa kalamboan sa atoang simbahan,para sa pagpadayon sa mga programa nga makatabang sa mga katawhan..para sa kalihokan sa pagsangyaw sa maayong balita..and the church doesn't even oblige the members to give tithes..nor offerings..

i once held the same thoughts you now hold..i only ended up hating other people..
by the way, if gusto jud ka, you can go to any church office..pwede ka mangutana ug unsay padulngan anang mga donations, offerings ug church fees..and you'll see..

[H.Wolowitz]

hehe was waiting for bai @noy to ride on this thread.

unsay thoughts nimo ani nga statement boss?

Religions are created by Satan to cause division and confusion.

[noy]

hehe was waiting for bai @noy to ride on this thread.

unsay thoughts nimo ani nga statement boss?

haha! i would have to disagree with that bai..

my religion for example, it teaches to Love others as you love yourself..how can that teaching come from Satan? hehehe..

diversity doesn't have to be chaotic..the vast and different religious views are present not for the purpose to demean, misunderstand, or worse hate each other..but for us to respect and accept one another.

[H.Wolowitz]

haha! i would have to disagree with that bai..

my religion for example, it teaches to Love others as you love yourself..how can that teaching come from Satan? hehehe..

hehe ana!

apir!

[Cebu Properties]

religion is nothing as long as you trust and believe in Him honestly............

[rafee]

....by the way, if gusto jud ka, you can go to any church office..pwede ka mangutana ug unsay padulngan anang mga donations, offerings ug church fees..and you'll see..

Kani ra gyud ang dili pwede nimo mbuhat or kung mabuhat mn nimo wla gihpon ky makuha nga financial information sa bisan asa nga churches. Bawal na cya sir sa ako nahibaw.an... church rules.