Religion or NO Religion?

[SioDenz]

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on the contrary, it proves my point that religion is man made.

the bible got that thick because the vatican made it to be that thick. the bible has a lot of good stories with good morals and nothing more. it does NOT have the answer on all the questions of life, especially it's origin, purpose, morality but offers an OPINION, not the absolute truth, on it.

destiny is a figment of our imagination. one way of romanticizing our short existence and purpose on this world.

to say religion explains everything is just being silly. no rationale and common sense involved.

You proved NOTHING because you seems CONFUSED between Religion ang Bible and Theism.

Vatican Did NOT create the Bible, They compiled it from various Writings that predates their organization... You knew Nothing..

the WORD ANSWER is NOT Related to the WORD OPINION in any SENSE, so your statement does not make any Sense.

The main Argument is that I said the BIBLE has Answers, when I said Answers, you asked Question and someone will ANSWER you based from whats Written in the BIBLE. OPINION is the Word you USE to CLASSIFY the answers... So non sense statement you've got there..


So what Scientific Studies YOU can suggest to answer the Questions on origin, purpose, morality, and Destiny? are they COHERENT?

[brendomar]

ravi zacharias na jud ka padung ani sio! heheheheh

[MeaCulpa]

example of an irrational argument... your ideas are not yours but of your faith which do not have any empirical proof. at least mine was done through studies and scientific verification.

like i said, when believers feel their faith is being attacked by truth and knowledge they will resort to any form of argument irregardless it their argument is factual or relevant to the discussion. it is but natural for the believer since you we're taught to do so from an early age.




theism does not rely on science which is where the problem arises. i do not insist on things that i do not know for sure. unlike religion, if something cannot be explained then automatically it is god's work or some silly magical miracle.

atheism also does not rely on faith which is where the problem arises. I never insisted on the things i know for sure also. If something cannot be explained then i automatically turn to science and when science can't give me an apt explanation, there and then i can conclude that there's something more supreme than science.

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example of an irrational argument... your ideas are not yours but of your faith which do not have any empirical proof. at least mine was done through studies and scientific verification.

like i said, when believers feel their faith is being attacked by truth and knowledge they will resort to any form of argument irregardless it their argument is factual or relevant to the discussion. it is but natural for the believer since you we're taught to do so from an early age.




theism does not rely on science which is where the problem arises. i do not insist on things that i do not know for sure. unlike religion, if something cannot be explained then automatically it is god's work or some silly magical miracle.

atheism also does not rely on faith which is where the problem arises. I never insisted on the things i know for sure also. If something cannot be explained then i automatically turn to science and when science can't give me an apt explanation, there and then i can conclude that there's something more supreme than science.

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blindly following is what religion demands it believers to do, science offers you an explanation. if somehow down the road that explanation is proven wrong by newer evidence through science then it is corrected. religion will rarely ever admit what they are teaching is wrong or is not any more applicable at the present time.

migo, there's a very big difference between religion and faith. where religion bounds you with the doctrines, faith allows you to explore and swim to the abyss of confusion and doubt.

[MeaCulpa]

gusto ka nga ako mismo mutawag ug mod para ani imo false accusation? ikaw mismo kadaghan nimog account gigamit angay raka maban...lol... ayaw pataka kay mura pd raba naa ka ebidensya..sama ra sa imong pagtuo..

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you are wrong in that part sir. Even if we both have "beliefs", among belief realistic, inyuha dli. Among "belief" sa ubang butang is possible and can happen given the circumstances and can be verified by science...whereas nyung belief cannot be tested if tnuod ba jud or dli, belief rajd mo taman sir.. mao na ang difference..

thanks for the response sir. we have different methods man gud pud on verifying our realities, i respect yours.

out of the topic, if i may ask sir, what are your opinion why should we not believe in a GOD? what does faith gives to people? I want to understand you why you want to educate us with your science?

[battouter]

You proved NOTHING because you seems CONFUSED between Religion ang Bible and Theism.

Vatican Did NOT create the Bible, They compiled it from various Writings that predates their organization... You knew Nothing..

the WORD ANSWER is NOT Related to the WORD OPINION in any SENSE, so your statement does not make any Sense.

The main Argument is that I said the BIBLE has Answers, when I said Answers, you asked Question and someone will ANSWER you based from whats Written in the BIBLE. OPINION is the Word you USE to CLASSIFY the answers... So non sense statement you've got there..


So what Scientific Studies YOU can suggest to answer the Questions on origin, purpose, morality, and Destiny? are they COHERENT?

i am perfectly clear what religion, the bible and theism is. all there are interconnected with regards to the christian faith. theism pertains to a belief in a god. religion is merely following a set of rules set forth by your leaders. Christianity is a type of theism. maybe you are the one confused by your belief in seeing the facts of the matter.

the roman empire through the vatican compiled the bible, they SELECTED which books to include and reject every other account that would not support the christian agenda EVEN if that account was indeed factual. think about it this way, if i am trying to sell you a product, would you tell me the deficiencies of that product? i thought so.

the bible in reality has OPINIONS which believers will call "ANSWERS". if you let any other person of a different faith or belief read it, he will not find answers. in the same way muslims will find "answers" in the quran and christians will only see gibberish.

scientific studies to answer origin, etc.? i will guarantee you it is far more rationale and believable compared to the fairy tale the bible is trying to sell you.

[crono+death ward]

How can you say they are PROVEN? ahh yes, because the Scientific Community SAID SO....

how do we know that neptune exists?? because scientific community has evidence..

how do you know that talking snake is true??

because bible said so..

science destroys religion all the time

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thanks for the response sir. we have different methods man gud pud on verifying our realities, i respect yours.

and what is your method then?? feelings??

our method to identify truth from fiction is called scientific method.

and your talking snake didn't pass the scientific method

[pakinimo]

The Bible has all the answer on all the Questions of LIFE: Origin, Purpose, Morality, and Destiny. Its Just that you did Not Accept it.
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"The problem with the world is, intelligent people are full of doubts, while stupid people are full of confidence."

Mao na syay problema sio, you think you have all the answers

[MeaCulpa]

if the idea of GOD gives hope to others, then what's wrong with it? it's just like the idea of science gives hope to others. Some may kill because of their idea of God but also some kills because of their idea of science. both have their extremes. Religion vs. Religion. Science vs. Religion. Muslims (i'm referring to extremist) kills Christians, Christians kills Muslims. Hitler ordered the Holocaust because he thought Jews were animals. we are animals. just animals.

Both gives advantages and disadvantages. No matter how we push our own beliefs, our answers still have questions. For us who believes, we'll pray that you might find the food for your hunger for absolute truth. We'll wait for our CHRIST to come back and continue to live in accordance with HIS Love and Grace. GOD will always be waiting for both of us. But always remember, when your science fails you, GOD is always here. always has. no matter how you hated the idea of HIM.

Ari na lang ko kutob, sa abo ra man gihapon ta mobalik tanan. So GOD bless! and thanks sa mga nagreply nga naay sense ug kato pud sa wala. salamat.

[pakinimo]

thanks for the response sir. we have different methods man gud pud on verifying our realities, i respect yours.

out of the topic, if i may ask sir, what are your opinion why should we not believe in a GOD? what does faith gives to people? I want to understand you why you want to educate us with your science?

Reality does not change whether you believe it or not. And the only way we know something is proven real is when we prove it through science, not just once, but multiple times and getting the same result.

It's not that we shouldn't believe in god, it's just that people should keep it to themselves. Mura ranag media, you dont really know kung tnuod ila gipangsulti but tungd kay nikalat na ug maau mahimo nang tnuod. Misleadng na sya and dangerous na. It also stops our curiosity because we are told that we have all the answers in one book, which is not necessarily true.

Science has nothing to do with this.

[Weiland2]

Mao di ko blind follower sama nimu..

asa imung answer anang upat ka pangutana? aw wait, huwat paka sa scientific community? ...

Kanang Blind Follower gani, pariha nimo, tunlon tanang nakasulat sa fictional fairytale bible, pati itlog imuhang lamoyon na walay pangutana, tanang magicx2 ug hokus pokus sa inyuhang bibliya imuhang tunlon, mao nang BLIND FOLLOWER. BUGO.

Naa diay kay pangutana sa akoa? Basig nag damgo nasad kang bugoa ka

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if the idea of GOD gives hope to others, then what's wrong with it? it's just like the idea of science gives hope to others. Some may kill because of their idea of God but also some kills because of their idea of science. both have their extremes. Religion vs. Religion. Science vs. Religion. Muslims (i'm referring to extremist) kills Christians, Christians kills Muslims. Hitler ordered the Holocaust because he thought Jews were animals. we are animals. just animals.

Both gives advantages and disadvantages. No matter how we push our own beliefs, our answers still have questions. For us who believes, we'll pray that you might find the food for your hunger for absolute truth. We'll wait for our CHRIST to come back and continue to live in accordance with HIS Love and Grace. GOD will always be waiting for both of us. But always remember, when your science fails you, GOD is always here. always has. no matter how you hated the idea of HIM.

Ari na lang ko kutob, sa abo ra man gihapon ta mobalik tanan. So GOD bless! and thanks sa mga nagreply nga naay sense ug kato pud sa wala. salamat.

LOL Sweeping Statements again from this christian idiot.

Can you tell me what are the disadvantages of using Science?

I can tell you 1000 Disadvantages of blindly following religion, IGNORANCE is one of them and your post is a perfect example. IDIOT.