Die, brod, Die!

[thadzonline]

Its not really hazing, i dont know yung term ng ibang frat but really its not hazing. Its more of an indoctrination which is totally different from hazing. Indoctrination is more of teaching the proper ways of how to act in our society. Its a combination not just of physical pain but of mental and emotional as well. I know sigma rho fraternity, in fact i know someone who is an alumnus of sigma rho. And based on what i have observed it really was an accident because i'am a fratman as well and based on my observations sigma rho is not like those "kalye frats" where you get tricycle drivers as your brods. they are one of those elite frats of society. Those humble frats who do more for society di yung nakikipagbatuhan ng "pill box" at naghahasik ng lagim. LOL! And when you say elite frats their initiations are sacred, di yan ginaganap sa kung saan saang kanto lang. Di yan ginaganap sa bukirin ng kung sinong pontio pilato lang. Its usually on a private location. I know so beacuse i have been there. I was bed ridden for almost a week before finally being able to walk and take a pee! Its so sad to see another life taken away because really the way of the frat, the true frat is to teach and not to kill. The true way is to enlighten others to do good and just for his fellow man. This case will never be solved why?

1. Cris knew the risk he was getting himself into. He knew because he was joining the an elite frat. (mind you that the requirements of true frats are very high so he definitely knew what he was getting into.)

2. For everyone who has been to UP Diliman i know you can relate with me. I have been to UPD (2 as a part of a chapter visit) and im telling you iba ang buhay doon. The way students act, talk, everything...IBA! Not in a wild, kinky or horny kind of way na iba, iba in a way na when you come in the campus your really amazed because the non UP tag line for UP students na "iskolar ng bayan" is really true. And not only that but frats/soro in the campus has become a way of life. Frats in the campus and neos in the campus are nothing new in UPD. Not only that but all as in 99% of all professors in the campus is an alumnus of a certain frat. Whether we like it or not frats are here to stay and whatever we do we can never really take them out. Heck even pandak arroyo was an alumni of a soro at her school back in the US. (shocking but true) its so sad but again he knew the risk and he took it. Too bad he didnt make it.

I think inflicting physical pain on the neophytes is against the law, and it is passe..kahit tradisyon napapalitan for better ways..especially if the tradition has become illegal..hazing is illegal, no matter how you use other terms if what you do falls under the definition of hazing in the Anti-Hazing Law, officers of that fraternity are accountable, as well as alumni that knew of it

[amico]

Its not really hazing, i dont know yung term ng ibang frat but really its not hazing. Its more of an indoctrination which is totally different from hazing. Indoctrination is more of teaching the proper ways of how to act in our society. Its a combination not just of physical pain but of mental and emotional as well. I know sigma rho fraternity, in fact i know someone who is an alumnus of sigma rho. And based on what i have observed it really was an accident because i'am a fratman as well and based on my observations sigma rho is not like those "kalye frats" where you get tricycle drivers as your brods. they are one of those elite frats of society. Those humble frats who do more for society di yung nakikipagbatuhan ng "pill box" at naghahasik ng lagim. LOL! And when you say elite frats their initiations are sacred, di yan ginaganap sa kung saan saang kanto lang. Di yan ginaganap sa bukirin ng kung sinong pontio pilato lang. Its usually on a private location. I know so beacuse i have been there. I was bed ridden for almost a week before finally being able to walk and take a pee! Its so sad to see another life taken away because really the way of the frat, the true frat is to teach and not to kill. The true way is to enlighten others to do good and just for his fellow man. This case will never be solved why?

1. Cris knew the risk he was getting himself into. He knew because he was joining the an elite frat. (mind you that the requirements of true frats are very high so he definitely knew what he was getting into.)

2. For everyone who has been to UP Diliman i know you can relate with me. I have been to UPD (2 as a part of a chapter visit) and im telling you iba ang buhay doon. The way students act, talk, everything...IBA! Not in a wild, kinky or horny kind of way na iba, iba in a way na when you come in the campus your really amazed because the non UP tag line for UP students na "iskolar ng bayan" is really true. And not only that but frats/soro in the campus has become a way of life. Frats in the campus and neos in the campus are nothing new in UPD. Not only that but all as in 99% of all professors in the campus is an alumnus of a certain frat. Whether we like it or not frats are here to stay and whatever we do we can never really take them out. Heck even pandak arroyo was an alumni of a soro at her school back in the US. (shocking but true) its so sad but again he knew the risk and he took it. Too bad he didnt make it.

better join anakpawis. they don't have hazing and they don't beat you in a private place where you can't run. with anakpawis, all you need to do is join their rallies and be beaten by the police. that's their only initiation. but you only have 50% chance of being beaten because you can have the option to run and avoid being beaten.

[thadzonline]

@amico anakpawis ka? basin naay ma offend ana imong post ha?

[amico]

wa koy frat. di na sila ma-offend kay they have tolerance for free expression and have some sense of humor.

[marc francis]

Its really hard to explain unless your a member of a frat. Again by that i mean frat talaga di yung frat "daw". Fraternies are a society of its own, they have their own laws, culture and traditions. Its like being a citizen of another country. Im telling you in a months time life in UP will be back to normal. Thats all i can say for this issue.

[thadzonline]

basta my stand on the issue of physical beating is negative, dili jud dapat..its not about when things get back to normal, becoz later on it will happen again pag pinabayaan lang..no point breaking the law when one can have better processes, we are no longer in the barbaric ages and therefore we must learn to keep our aggressiveness in check.. a puppy is still a dog, so by all means whether you call it hazing or not, when you have inflicted pain on another, that is still inhumane..hazing, as defined by law, is a crime

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

MARC FRANCIS .... are you a SIGMA RHO ?

It is hard to say something in behalf of something or someone unless you are part of it . Otherwise , what you said about FRATS and UP is already old news .

[brownprose]

I am a frat member and went through the ordeal of humiliation and violation. Sadly and frankly, it did not at all make me and my so-called "bros" real brothers in the real sense. many of them abuse your generosity or take advantage of your influence to land a job - this kind of frat culture just simply sucks you on the face.

Even now, and as a fratman myself, I still find hazing a meaningless and an unnecessary ordeal not to mention outright disrespect of your humanity and person. Why does brotherhood have to start with violence and indignation when you can begin to keep or protect your brothers away from it all? Just doesn't make sense.

[thadzonline]

I am a frat member and went through the ordeal of humiliation and violation. Sadly and frankly, it did not at all make me and my so-called "bros" real brothers in the real sense. many of them abuse your generosity or take advantage of your influence to land a job - this kind of frat culture just simply sucks you on the face.

Even now, and as a fratman myself, I still find hazing a meaningless and an unnecessary ordeal not to mention outright disrespect of your humanity and person. Why does brotherhood have to start with violence and indignation when you can begin to keep or protect your brothers away from it all? Just doesn't make sense.

from a fratman himself, takes real courage to do that and with the prospect of having your brods hate you for making a stand on a violent tradition

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

OFFTOPIC : From a FRATMAN ? I doubt ... anyone here who is a FRATMAN knows and values INITIATION RITES and HAZING . And just like what I said before , know first the definition of HAZING kay nasabtan sa kadaghanan BUNALAN ra ug PADDLE and BELT . Unless ha .. nagpa FRATMAN FRATMAN lang ka .