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  1. #1001

    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    aw mao diay ng imo buot pasabot migo. First, para ma verify basahon sa na nimo ang reviews kabahin sa book especially ang author.
    mao ba migo reviews ra di ie ang inyo gibasihan? mao na inyong ebedensya nga tinuod? kung padagahanay lang ug reviews migo kinsa kaha ang mas daghan na mo recommend sa bible? kung recommendation raman di ie ato basehan para mahimong tinuod.

    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    kai kanang secular books mabasa nako migo wa may dragons, unicorns, talking snakes ug talking donkeys, dili man intawn fairy tale ni sila. naa man pud punto ilang mga issues regarding sa bible so makaingon jud ta nga man-made ragud ang bibliya
    mao ba migo? walay talking snakes, talking donkeys, dragon? pwede ka maka site nako ug usa lang ka sentence or paragraph ba kaha migo para atong hisgutan ba ngano naka ingon ka na tinuod ni.

    ug kanang mga talking animals migo sa ilang panahon...have you think na maybe before sa ilang time, dunay capacity to communicate with those beings, then nawagtang nalang tungod sa atong pagka hightech na karon? ang ako example ana migo ngano hangtud karon duna may mga banggi-itang mga animal trainer ug mapasunod nila bisan gani ang mapintas nga leon, dophin ug uban pa.

    kamo raman ang nag insist nga fairy tail ang biblia, pero para namo ang biblia migo book of life, ug kanang libro nga imong nabasa migo klaro ug tataw man sad na nga hinimo lang sa tawo ug ikaw ania nipatuo rasad sa ilang gipangyawit diha nga wala mag imbistiga, tabla rata diba. FAITH rasad ang imong gibasihan


    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    naa man pud punto ilang mga issues regarding sa bible so makaingon jud ta nga man-made ragud ang bibliya
    pwede ka maka cite diha sa punto ana imong libro migo? ayaw lang pud ng tibuok libro ang e copy paste diri, kana lang imong panahom sa imong nabasahan nga tinuod gyud.

    sa ako ng gisulti migo kanang mga punto issues sa imong libre migo MAN MADE rasad na pustahan pa

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    migo unsa man na? meme ang atong basehan as evidence?

  2. #1002
    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    unsaon pag verify namo kung inyong gusto physical unya ang amo spiritual? is it smart enough to ask that question?
    Yup. its a smart question jud migo. Remember the phrase, "to see is to believe."
    Is it really faith migo? Or something like...
    Spoiler! 


    naglibog ko sa question nimo sa last paragraph...
    mao bitaw migo na managlahi ang duha wala jud ka ka gets? kami mga theist base on FAITH, kung kamo to see is to believe kami sad migo we remember this verse: John 20:29 Jesus said to him, "Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed."

  3. #1003
    I do not believe that God created evil. He created everything, he gave us brain and mind to think together with our hearts to have emotions and feelings. But his most trusted angel betray because it wants to become more powerful than him, so he use his head thinking about bad things. The angel, Lucifcer or Satan did not teach us to sin, he only introduced sin to us, but men in this world spread it like a disease, cultivating it, teaching it, and elaborating it. So the Earth is another form of Hell and men are it's demons. Only a few are good now.

  4. #1004
    So that we can have the FREE WILL to choose between GOOD and EVIL , SMOKING or NON SMOKING ? Asa man jud mohe,he

  5. #1005
    Quote Originally Posted by KAPSULA View Post
    So that we can have the FREE WILL to choose between GOOD and EVIL , SMOKING or NON SMOKING ? Asa man jud mohe,he
    ikaw sa ako pangutan-on bi...s3x or no s3x?

  6. #1006
    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    nitoo naman gani ka migo nga round ang kalibutan kai giprove sa science, dats an ABSOLUTE FACT diba?
    kung maprove sa science migo nga si Quibloloy ang 2nd coming of Christ, ug naverify napud sa lain scientific bodies, aw motoo pud ko.
    gisulti na man ni sa bible.. gisuwat na ning Isaiah "It is He who sits above the circle of the earth... " ug Job "He has inscribed a circle on the surface of the waters at the boundary of light and darkness. Wa pa na na prove sa science gisuwat na sa bible..

  7. #1007
    Quote Originally Posted by buTakal ko View Post
    mao ba migo reviews ra di ie ang inyo gibasihan? mao na inyong ebedensya nga tinuod? kung padagahanay lang ug reviews migo kinsa kaha ang mas daghan na mo recommend sa bible? kung recommendation raman di ie ato basehan para mahimong tinuod.
    Uy, nabanned man diay si migo, ngano kaha?
    Anyway, akong gihapon tubagon ang issues. Una sa tanan migo, anha nimo mahibaw-an nga bangiitan ba ang author sa libro. Tanawa gud sa amazon ug goodreads migo kung 4 out of 5 stars ba ang book. Mas daghan diay ang recommendation sa inyong bible? Naa kai stats dinha maipagawas? O kutob lang siguro pagpalit sa libro pero walay basa-basa.
    mao ba migo? walay talking snakes, talking donkeys, dragon? pwede ka maka site nako ug usa lang ka sentence or paragraph ba kaha migo para atong hisgutan ba ngano naka ingon ka na tinuod ni.

    ug kanang mga talking animals migo sa ilang panahon...have you think na maybe before sa ilang time, dunay capacity to communicate with those beings, then nawagtang nalang tungod sa atong pagka hightech na karon? ang ako example ana migo ngano hangtud karon duna may mga banggi-itang mga animal trainer ug mapasunod nila bisan gani ang mapintas nga leon, dophin ug uban pa.

    kamo raman ang nag insist nga fairy tail ang biblia, pero para namo ang biblia migo book of life, ug kanang libro nga imong nabasa migo klaro ug tataw man sad na nga hinimo lang sa tawo ug ikaw ania nipatuo rasad sa ilang gipangyawit diha nga wala mag imbistiga, tabla rata diba. FAITH rasad ang imong gibasihan
    Pagsure migo uy, nagbaha na unta ang history books ug talking animals kung tinood na ang gisulti sa bibliya, gi-apil na unta na sa mga apologists na sila Justin Martyr, Eusebius, Tertullian, Iraeneus ug uban pa ang talking animals sa ilang mga sinuwatan pero wa man. Naa kai kopya migo dinha nga nagmato-od nga nai talking animals ASIDE SA BIBLE?
    Swerte ning mga author migo kai critical sila sa bible ug nakita jud ang flaws sa inyong "God-inspired book" kuno hehehe...

    pwede ka maka cite diha sa punto ana imong libro migo? ayaw lang pud ng tibuok libro ang e copy paste diri, kana lang imong panahom sa imong nabasahan nga tinuod gyud.

    sa ako ng gisulti migo kanang mga punto issues sa imong libre migo MAN MADE rasad na pustahan pa

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    migo unsa man na? meme ang atong basehan as evidence?
    puede pud ebidensya na migo, ganahan ka sa whole book migo ako lang i email nimo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    gisulti na man ni sa bible.. gisuwat na ning Isaiah "It is He who sits above the circle of the earth... " ug Job "He has inscribed a circle on the surface of the waters at the boundary of light and darkness. Wa pa na na prove sa science gisuwat na sa bible..
    A sacred book w/ sacred contradictions...
    "Daniel 4:10-11. In Daniel, the king “saw a tree of great height at the centre of the earth...reaching with its top to the sky and visible to the earth's farthest bounds.”
    Isaiah 11:12 "And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth."

  8. #1008
    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    That will be for the Church to present proof that your God is indeed a spirit. Science will simply verify your claim
    hehe

    You WANT an Empirical proof nya DILI man diay mu kahatag sa CRITERIA sa Proof nga inyung Gusto - Unsaon pagka satisfy ninyu? this prooves nga ang Atheism is Not about reason but Feelings because you cannot even give us the exact guidelines what an Evidence should have or should be.

    So when you said BIBLE is Fiction but dont give us the Criteria what should qualify the TRUTH, is that Verification to you? or Assumption based on Feelings?

  9. #1009
    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post

    A sacred book w/ sacred contradictions...
    "Daniel 4:10-11. In Daniel, the king “saw a tree of great height at the centre of the earth...reaching with its top to the sky and visible to the earth's farthest bounds.”
    Isaiah 11:12 "And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth."
    Di man na siya contradiction boss because it did not mean the shape of the earth.. if you look at the context ang four corners means extremety.. The Jews are scattered to away lands, far from Israel, and God promised to bring them back from those places to Israel. Indeed it happened after WWII

    Wala sad problema sa Daniel kay if you look at the horizon it looks like it's the end. The verse only tells us that the tree can be seen from the horizon.. again it doesn't tell us of the shape of the earth.

    Nganong ingon-ana man pag interpret? nganong ang four corners wa nagsulti about shape of the earth ug nganong ang circle nagsulti man? Context ra gihapon na sya boss.. kanang mga verses na imo gi quote it gives us on the ground perspective while kato akong gihatag is above ground perspective. If you look at the earth from the ground it seems that it is flat and it ends in the horizon. but if you look at it from ABOVE the ground ang iyang shape is circle. Isaiah mention that the Lord sits ABOVE the circle of the earth.
    Last edited by NapoleonBlownapart; 09-18-2014 at 11:58 AM.

  10. #1010
    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    Uy, nabanned man diay si migo, ngano kaha?
    Anyway, akong gihapon tubagon ang issues. Una sa tanan migo, anha nimo mahibaw-an nga bangiitan ba ang author sa libro. Tanawa gud sa amazon ug goodreads migo kung 4 out of 5 stars ba ang book. Mas daghan diay ang recommendation sa inyong bible? Naa kai stats dinha maipagawas? O kutob lang siguro pagpalit sa libro pero walay basa-basa.
    relax lang migo naa ra gihapon ko...na ban ko kay kahibaw naka aning sikat kaayo ta daghan jud tag haters, murag punoan sa mangga ba...basta daghan gani kag bunga sigehan jud kag bato dumot much man si ate gud

    anyway pud migo padayon lang gihapon ta sa ato peaceful kaayo nga discussion

    stars lang di ie imong evidence migo? mao na di ie na imong gitawag ug kaugalingong verification? pastilan no? mao bitaw migo na kung recommendation lang siguro ang basihan pila kaha kabuok ang mo recommend sa bible? siwayan ba nato? maghimo tag poll diri pabutohan nato sa mga tawo asa ang mas daghan nga recommendation


    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    Pagsure migo uy, nagbaha na unta ang history books ug talking animals kung tinood na ang gisulti sa bibliya, gi-apil na unta na sa mga apologists na sila Justin Martyr, Eusebius, Tertullian, Iraeneus ug uban pa ang talking animals sa ilang mga sinuwatan pero wa man. Naa kai kopya migo dinha nga nagmato-od nga nai talking animals ASIDE SA BIBLE?
    Swerte ning mga author migo kai critical sila sa bible ug nakita jud ang flaws sa inyong "God-inspired book" kuno hehehe...
    sure ka migo? mao nay mahitabo? kanus-a lang gani nila na diskobre ang kaalam sa pagsuwat? natural migo wala nana sa history books tungod sa kadugay na sa panahon...atong gihisgutan panahon pa ni adan, about talking snake dili pa sila kahibaw anang panahona mosuwat

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